Uncharted 4 spoiler free early copy impressions

Charted. My heart is so heavy right now.

I'm sorry guys but ranking this game feels really stupid to me. When I saw the credits, I realized this was a statement piece.

One thing is for sure - this is the best Uncharted to date. It really is... Amazing.
 
TLOU while an amazing game for me has always lacked the umph of U2. TLOU had me like wow this is freaking great the entire time, but nothing made me go holy fucking shit balls my god like in U2. And I guess that is the spectacle part and TLOU was never meant to have that. That said now that I think about it more I can see how they are equal yet different experiences. Which makes it a tad unfair to compare U4 to TLOU as they should be going for different things.

Yup same here. Also the slow start hurts it a bit. It's a masterpiece, really it's just preference to the kind of game you enjoy more. And I like things that explode. As an action game fan there are very very few games I would hold up as a better example of pacing and variety in situations as U2.
 
The 5 GB day 1 patch is just MP right?

No. MP is bigger than 10 GB and it's a standalone download. 5GB includes :

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I am loving this. Best in the series so far., except for the slow start. The combat has never been this good.

When does the MP go live?
 
Charted. My heart is so heavy right now.

I'm sorry guys but ranking this game feels really stupid to me. When I saw the credits, I realized this was a statement piece.

One thing is for sure - this is the best Uncharted to date. It really is... Amazing.

Debatable :p

And Metacritic doesn't think so either.

This game is really good but it is really different from the other ones.
 
Iam in Chapter 9 so far and holy shit this game, man....
In my honest opinion, this is the second game this generation, after the Witcher 3 that raises the bar for its respective genre.
The attention to detail is next to none, it looks and plays brilliantly and the whole presentation is just brilliant.
Everybody still having this game ahead of them are in for a treat!
 
Debatable :p

I'm early in the game but for me, this UC is hard to rank. I can definitely understand any opinion. If someone says they like UC2 more for w/e reason, I understand. Same with TLOU. Whatever that may be, to me it's fucking incredible so far but I can understand some may not like it for w/e reasons.

Edit: Metacritic has it as the second highest rated UC game. 94 96 blah it's a wash. Nobody is going to point to Metacritic for TLOU and say "See UC2 has a 96 TLOU 95 therefore TLOU is not as good!"
 
Metacritic has them differing by 1 or 2 points.

I'm early in the game but for me, this UC is hard to rank. I can definitely understand any opinion. If someone says they like UC2 more for w/e reason, I understand. Same with TLOU. Whatever that may be, to me it's fucking incredible so far but I can understand some may not like it for w/e reasons.

Edit: Metacritic has it as the second highest rated UC game. 94 96 blah it's a wash. Nobody is going to point to Metacritic for TLOU and say "See UC2 has a 96 TLOU 95 therefore TLOU is not as good!"

Yeah I know I don't actually care about Metacritic I just thought it supported my retort against "for sure," that its debatable :p
 
I have a feeling UPS is just going to hold mine hostage until Tuesday...it's local now and it could easily be delivered on Monday but it still lists the delivery date as Tuesday...
 
Can you change the difficulty midgame?
I wanna start on a higher difficulty but I'm not sure if it will disturb my smooth sailing for the first playthrough.
 
I don't think it can be overstated how massive this game is. Not so much in length, though it's no slouch there, but in scale. I estimate I'm about halfway through the game, maybe less, but the size of these environments is stunning. You know how the train level in UC2 was so wonderful because you felt like you were actually traveling across a country? Well UC4 is like that over and over and over again (even if the actual distance traveled might not be as great).

Also, the writing is exceptional. When Druckmann was saying that this game was about the toll Drake's adventures have taken on his life, I was initially like, give me a break - this is Nathan Drake, not Michael Corleone. But the writers have pulled it off.
 
Uncharted 4 and tlou are both much better than 2 imo.

Yeah, people are giving U2 way too much credit. It's a really great game but TLOU is in a league of its own. I have yet to play 4 but the things it seems to be doing solve all the problems I had with U2. So it's a matter of taste, I guess. I'm just saying my taste is correct ;)
 
I'm like six or seven hours in now. And I'm nowhere near halfway (judging by chapter count).

- the combat is utterly phenomenal. Shooting feels great, shots landing feels great, getting shot feels great, reloading feels great, thumping into cover feels great.
- the whole thing is super responsive. Like practically MGSV level. But I actually prefer it to MGSV because there's character and personality and quirk to every frame of animation - MGSV's movements felt a bit sterile (it's obviously a military-focused game, so probably that)
- and talking of animations... What the fuck. There are thousands upon thousands of animations added for any possible tiny instance - grabbing a ledge from a funny angle, trying to punch a guy who's behind a doorframe, getting grabbed from behind while you have someone up against a wall, etc etc
- graphically and in terms of animation it's not perfect, it's just brilliant, but that doesn't matter, because the gameplay is so good it would be fine even with Uncharted 2/3 graphics
- levels are super long. And brilliant minute by minute. So well designed, the platforming feels fun and responsive, the climbing is near-perfect, hugely improved, the spaces are far larger and there are multiple routes built into even small arenas/areas
- but it's well-paced, even though it's seemingly the longest game yet. I haven't been bored once yet, and I'm 7 hours in. The story stuff is brilliantly handled and there are loads of great moments they haven't shown in any trailers
- remember those brawls in Uncharted 3 which were sort of OK but also kinda easy and flawed? They are fucking brilliant in Uncharted 4. Especially if you're someone who's into good animation and responsiveness

Can't wait to get back to it. Incredible stuff.

Also who the heck said this wasn't funny in comparison with UC2. This is just as funny. In a more witty, Frasier-esque way, but equally funny. I've had a bunch of good belly laughs already, and I'm on chapter 8 or 9.

Edit: oh and the writing seems excellent and on-point, as always. Can't really fault it yet

edit edit: if I had to think of a complaint so far it would be that the opening chapters probably will be a pain to get through on subsequent playthroughs. They're brilliant on first playthrough, but I can imagine returning to them will just be OK, or tiring if you're keen to progress. Much like the Istanbul Museum from UC2. Finding the treasures and exploring will be fun but sometimes you need a break from that.

Can you change the difficulty midgame?
I wanna start on a higher difficulty but I'm not sure if it will disturb my smooth sailing for the first playthrough.

Yes. I started on Hard, but was nearly dying in the very first gunfight, so I bumped it to Normal.

Disclaimer: I'm one of those people who believes Uncharted 2 doesn't get good until you play it on Crushing, and I recommend Hard at least for all the games – but honestly I'd recomend Normal for this game. The game feels so smooth and seamless on Normal - it's really satisfying.

Plus Hard/Crushing have new enemy layouts/numbers, so you can save a freshened-up playthrough for once you've finished it once with the bog-standard layouts :)
 
JebaćBiedę;202887967 said:
My brain says "wait for ps4neo"

But my heart screams "buy ps4 with BB, U4 and R&C"

fuuuck
Well, you only have a bit over a month to wait for E3...but you'd have to wait until PS4K is released too.
 
Debatable :p

And Metacritic doesn't think so either.

This game is really good but it is really different from the other ones.

Debatable.

1. A 96 in 200X isn't the same as a 96 in 2016. Something would basically have to be perfect to get that nowadays, and neither UC4 nor UC2 are perfect.

2. So far, Uncharted 4 feels to me like the ultimate Uncharted game. In a meta way. Like The Force Awakens, it feels like a love letter to everything, everyone, and everywhere that happened in Uncharted 1-3, and it feels like it contains all of those games.

I'm on Chapter 8/9 and I feel like I've already had four magnificent, expansive adventures, all of which have that wonderful 'Uncharted' feel to them. Three times in the first hour I was like "It's good to be back". The feel of Drake moving, his lines, the little way it handles puzzles and climbing, the pacing and the upbeat jokes. It's all pure Uncharted. The only difference is the "getting back in the game" framing narrative, which is just that: a frame. What's within that frame is classic Uncharted - a theme of the game is Drake trying to capture that feeling, that experience again. This is an Uncharted game about the Uncharted games. It's a proper sequel.
 
JebaćBiedę;202887967 said:
My brain says "wait for ps4neo"

But my heart screams "buy ps4 with BB, U4 and R&C"

fuuuck

The Last Guardian and Persona 5 are most likely also coming before the NEO does.
 
Debatable :p

And Metacritic doesn't think so either.

This game is really good but it is really different from the other ones.

But Metacritic does think this Uncharted is the best one though. Looking past the numerical standing and reading the actual content of the reviews and one will find broad agreement that this is better than uncharted 2. Even most of the lower scoring reviews say so.
 
Played for an hour or so. Whoever it was at ND that said this game contains their best opening segment is a gahddam liar. That intro had absolutely nothing on TLoU.

Also, man this game is off to a slow start so far. Guess they're going for a more nuanced approach this time around. Nothing wrong with a slowburn, just unexpected.
 
Debatable :p

And Metacritic doesn't think so either.

This game is really good but it is really different from the other ones.

I am afraid that MC is utterly useless when comparing games from different eras. I would certainly not give Uncharted 2 a perfect score today, but I would have when it came out. The expectations are much bigger nowadays, especially in a time when TLOU is held as a reference in terms of story telling; when sandbox games are almost the norm, and linear titles heavily criticized; when ND is held to a higher standard than their rivals and when this happens to be the fourth episode in a series...
 
Played for an hour or so. Whoever it was at ND that said this game contains their best opening segment is a gahddam liar. That intro had absolutely nothing on TLoU.

Also, man this game is off to a slow start so far. Guess they're going for a more nuanced approach this time around. Nothing wrong with a slowburn, just unexpected.
It's subjective. I felt it was just as good but in a different way.
 
Are the wider, more open areas comparable to Rise of The Tomb Raider's hubs or are they bigger? I'm enjoying hearing the fact that people have been walking around without combat for a while. The pacing was one of my favorite parts about ROTR (and, actually, UC2 and TLOU).
 
Quick Question: How long before I'm actually playing? From first insertion
Sully you make everything sound dirty
to the title screen.
 
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metacritic can go ahead and straddle my big black johnson

Doesn't matter, it's a valid, cheeky response to someone declaring it is "for sure" better. ;) like I said though, I don't personally care about Metacritic.

But Metacritic does think this Uncharted is the best one though. Looking past the numerical standing and reading the actual content of the reviews and one will find broad agreement that this is better than uncharted 2. Even most of the lower scoring reviews say so.


Still debatable from a numerical and opinion perspective, which is obvious, but was my exact point.

You guys are looking way too much into my response.

Either way, having finished the game, there are things that TLOU, U4, and U2 do differently and in some cases objectively better than the others, which is fine, it means it's going to come down to taste. Which is my obvious point.
 
Quick Question: How long before I'm actually playing? From first insertion
Sully you make everything sound dirty
to the title screen.

Are you counting downloading the patch as well? If so it's 5gb. Took me about 20 minutes to download.
 
Not sure if asked but how are the puzzles conpared to the previous games. Are there more of them or are they more complicated?

The puzzles are clever IMO, more enjoyable than before. Not very grandiose in comparison to older games, less tedious, more thinking about patterns. I can't recall if there are more or less. They felt like a balanced amount for the gameplay and story.
 
Are the wider, more open areas comparable to Rise of The Tomb Raider's hubs or are they bigger? I'm enjoying hearing the fact that people have been walking around without combat for a while. The pacing was one of my favorite parts about ROTR (and, actually, UC2 and TLOU).

I've seen some big ass areas so far. I wouldn't call them a hub as you still eventually leave the area whereas ROTR seems to just have this hub area with lots of junk scattered around. The environments here so far have been big for a matter of scale, optional convos, treasures and some hidden notes, weapons etc. ROTR just had a big area where every corner had stuff to pick up and things to break open for scraps to upgrade your stuff and fill up your XP bar.
 
Are you counting downloading the patch as well? If so it's 5gb. Took me about 20 minutes to download.

Comparison for both cases would be nice. So 20mins with patch
If don't download the patch, I can just go straight to the singleplayer right? I guess what I'm really asking is if the 48gb initial download is done as I play through the singleplayer?
 
Completed 5 chapters. This game is just simply amazing. Loved the Intro and the graphics are mind-blowing.

They have done a great job of explaining the back story, defining the motivations of characters and their relationships with each other. Amazing job of making me care about the main story and familiarizing the player with all the new characters as well as new game mechanics.

It feels like Sam was there in every Uncharted with Nate and company. He IS someone you would assume to be Nate's elder brother. I am loving his character so far.

Everyone who says it has a slow start isnt wrong. However, if you care about story in games you will really appreciate this approach.
 
Played for an hour or so. Whoever it was at ND that said this game contains their best opening segment is a gahddam liar. That intro had absolutely nothing on TLoU.

Also, man this game is off to a slow start so far. Guess they're going for a more nuanced approach this time around. Nothing wrong with a slowburn, just unexpected.

Yeah the intro is really good at subtlety introducing you to gameplay mechanics you need to know, but it's not as "legit shook" feeling as TLOU.
 
Yeah the intro is really good at subtlety introducing you to gameplay mechanics you need to know, but it's not as "legit shook" feeling as TLOU.

I dont think it was supposed to. I believe it aims to make the player leaving wanting for more and for me it got the job done.
 
Yeah the intro is really good at subtlety introducing you to gameplay mechanics you need to know, but it's not as "legit shook" feeling as TLOU.

Personally, I thought TLOU had a good intro but I don't really get why people think it is untouchable. It seemed like a well done, but not unusual step you might see in a decent thriller movie. In terms of impact at the time, I personally found Uncharted 2's intro to have been more impressive for the time simply for replicating an action scene from an action movie.
 
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