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[RagnarokX]

And Unova was basically New York. So 2 of the last 3 pokemon regions are USA based. Wish they would go to Australia or Africa

The argument I was responding to was a guy who thought it likely that the island we saw is the entire game world. His argument for that being the case is that Pokemon doesn't adapt entire regions. But Hawaii is only part of the USA, just like how Kanto (RBY) Kansai (GSC), Kyushu (RSE), and Hokkaido (DPPt) are part of Japan and New York is only part of the USA. Hawaii in total is smaller than Kyushu and Hokkaido.

Plus, if this island were the entire world, it only has 2 or 3 routes, 2 or 3 towns, 2 pokemon centers, and possibly 1 gym. If they were just adapting one island of Hawaii they would have scaled it appropriately, but the island here is scaled more for the entire island chain to be the game's region.

 

[bizzarewars]

I was really hoping for Mexico, there is so much fun to be had there in terms of culture, wild life, and architecture.

Hell the criminal organization could be a group making a bunch of illegal drugs that make your Pokemon sick or even more powerful.
Team Rare Candy xD

A region based on Mexico with the villains being a Rare Candy Cartel? Sounds wild, I'm in.

 

[copelandmaster]

Click 4 source

 

[Puruzi]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

 

[DecoReturns]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

I think I'm the minority that think Gen 3 were the best. It's the only Gen were I love all the final evolution.

 

[DrownDown]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

Personally, I love the look of gen 2.

 

[Fou-Lu]

I'd say gen 3 or 4 is my favorite as far as starters go, though I've come to kind of dislike Blaziken over the years. Of course, I have to see what gen 7 has up its sleeve for final evolutions.

 

[spiritfox]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

Gen 4 is the only one where I liked all 3 and want to use them all.

 

[RagnarokX]

Also it's pretty weird not seeing tall grass. Wonder all that went.

Since Gen V they've been making random encounters more optional.

This is Route 1 in Gen VI's Kalos:

It's likely the route between the starting village and Honolulu has no tall grass, but the routes taking you down to the beach and the route north of Honolulu have it.

 

[Already Torn]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

3, but 7 is pretty solid.

 

[Slamtastic]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

Not to be that guy but 1 is the only one where all three are good AND good across all evos.

4 gets second place.

 

[Reset]

Best gen for starters?

Gen I > Gen III > Gen II > Gen IV > Gen VI > Gen V

Dunno where VII will fit in until I see the final evolutions. That ugly seal might end up getting redeemed by getting a cool evolution like Froakie. Or he might remain shit Fennekin and Tepig.

 

[perfectchaos007]

The argument I was responding to was a guy who thought it likely that the island we saw is the entire game world. His argument for that being the case is that Pokemon doesn't adapt entire regions. But Hawaii is only part of the USA, just like how Kanto (RBY) Kansai (GSC), Kyushu (RSE), and Hokkaido (DPPt) are part of Japan and New York is only part of the USA. Hawaii in total is smaller than Kyushu and Hokkaido.

Plus, if this island were the entire world, it only has 2 or 3 routes, 2 or 3 towns, 2 pokemon centers, and possibly 1 gym. If they were just adapting one island of Hawaii they would have scaled it appropriately, but the island here is scaled more for the entire island chain to be the game's region.

Yeah I agree there will be a chain of islands. And I also wouldn't be surprised if you can only fly from island to island instead of surfing. And if you can surf from island to island, it will get you there via cut scene and not a route. Otherwise, that would be a ton of time spent on water and I don't think Gamefreak would make more than half the game spent over water. They know better.

 

[Regiruler]

All 3 still suck, rowlet just sucks far less.

 

[Menitta]

I like 6's first evolutions quite a bit.

 

[DecoReturns]

Not to be that guy but 1 is the only one where all three are good AND good across all evos.

4 gets second place.

would sound better if your were not making it sound like facts rather then opinions.

I always wonder what happen if we get Gen 1 today brand new, what opinions would we be making.

 

[bizzarewars]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

Honestly, it's pretty hard to beat Gen 1 (not even a genwunner but they're so iconic at this point it's hard not to love 'em), but I do like the Gen 3, 4 and 6 starters an awful lot. I like Gen 2 as well but that's mainly because Totodile carries them hard. Totodile is the GOAT.

 

[Puruzi]

Not to be that guy but 1 is the only one where all three are good AND good across all evos.

4 gets second place.

I really hate Venasaur and Blastoise.

The only gen 1 final evo I like is Zard

 

[Clairvoyance]

4>7>1>3>6>5>2

 

[takriel]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

1 > 4 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 2 > 5 for me.

 

[Metroidvania]

Gen 1/2 probably the best overall for me, in terms of liking all 3 evos. Every gen after had one or more of the starters that I just couldn't mesh with.

If only Delphox hadn't gotten super weird....

 

[SalvaPot]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

Gen 1 for Basic Stage.
Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charmander and still the best beginner trio, it was so hard to pick one back then, so I went with yellow and got them all.

Gen 4 for Middle Stage
Grotle, Prinplup and Monferno. Great designs for all 3 and they all looked sharp and a perfect midway point between their evolutions

Gen 3 for Final Stage.
Sceptile, Swampert, Blaziken. As much as I dislike Hoenn as a region I love this guys and their megaevolutions,

Overall: Gen 4.

The turtwig, piplup and chimchar line os sooo good, the only pokémon out of the 9 designs I find underwelming is chimchar, but it quickly recovers with monferno and then Infernape, who is just a badass. Piplup its cute, Prinplup is elegant and Empoleon is just brilliant. And of couse, the best pokémon of them all, turtwig. My personal fav, with its cute cheeks, its little twig and adorable eyes. It evolves into the cool looking grotle and then becomes the behemoth that is Torterra.

 

[Crayolan]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

3>1>2>6>7>4>5

7 could go up if the evolutions turn out good though.

 

[Coffinhal]

And Unova was basically New York. So 2 of the last 3 pokemon regions are USA based. Wish they would go to Australia or Africa

I agree. We have enough movies and games that are US-centered, we don't need Pokémon to be one of them. But here Hawaii is a particular part of the US, it's not as if they chose California, Texas or Florida. Having a region that is a true archipelago has a great potential and it's fresh. Although the overwold needs to stay linked within its boundaries. The thing not to do is basically the islands from FireRed/GreenLeaf.

 

[Razmos]

would sound better if your were not making it sound like facts rather then opinions.

I always wonder what happen if we get Gen 1 today brand new, what opinions would we be making.

"uninspired, bland, Pokemon based on objects, ect ect."

 

[Reset]

If only Delphox hadn't gotten super weird....

Never understood this. Fennekin to Braixen is far weirder, a four legged fox turning in to a two legged fox who looks like its wearing a short skirt. That starter line always seemed like it was made to appeal to the same people that like Lopunny.

 

[soccergod]

I honestly dont think I'll be buying it. There's too many issues with the series, and if people support the fact that gamefreak/nintendo refuse to actually improve the games significantly it won't change. They need sales to drop for them to improve on it.

1) they need a different formula than catch pokemon, beat random team of bad guys, win badges, beat elite 4. It doesnt matter how much they try to vary it its the same game every single time

2) an actual difficulty. I mean along the lines of gyms not using set pokemon and it being randomized, and them using actual cohesive strategies and exploiting your weaknesses. Have different difficulty levels, at the lowest its set pokemon set move set etc. At the highest its random from either A) all non legendaries in the game or B) All random team/moves from within that pokemons main type

3) Just release a damn full blown RPG on a console already

 

[gardfish]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

Not including evolutions since we don't know Alola's yet, I'd go 3 > 2 > 7 > 1 > 5 > 6 > 4.

With evolutions but excluding Alola I'd say 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 1 > 6.

2 and 3 were definitely best starter designs across the board IMO, although 5 has my favorite starter overall.

 

[Menitta]

6>2>1>4>3>5>7.

With all the other starters, there was at least one I clicked with. There isn't one this time. I'm at the opinion of "Rowlet, I guess"

 

[Boss Doggie]

for me?

6 > 4 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 5 > 2

 

[Regiruler]

Never understood this. Fennekin to Braixen is far weirder, a four legged fox turning in to a two legged fox who looks like its wearing a short skirt. That starter line always seemed like it was made to appeal to the same people that like Lopunny.

It's super irritating to see it in pokken.

 

[Metroidvania]

Never understood this. Fennekin to Braixen is far weirder, a four legged fox turning in to a two legged fox who looks like its wearing a short skirt. That starter line always seemed like it was made to appeal to the same people that like Lopunny.

Was actually talking more about the quadrupling down on the ear tufts, but there's that too. Braixen wasn't 'as bad' tho, imo. /shrug.

Same reason I'm 'worried' about the whiskers getting out of control in Litten's evos, lol.

 

[javadoze]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

6 > 3 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 5

I kinda realized the only thing dragging down the gen7 starters for me when looking at all of them together is how Rowlet has a significantly lighter coloration than the others and stands out like a sore thumb (not that I don't like Rowlet or anything, it just throws a wrench into the visual cohesiveness of the Alola starters).

 

[Puruzi]

6>2>1>4>3>5>7.

6 > 4 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 5 > 2

6 > 3 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 5

 

[Azuran]

Not to be that guy but 1 is the only one where all three are good AND good across all evos.

4 gets second place.

Blastoise is garbage tier thought. He brings down the entire set with his presence.

3 > 6 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 4

 

[Illucio]

Best gen for starters?

6 for me tbh

From best to worst base form starters:

6 > 1 > 3 > 7 > 5 > 4 > 2

Best to worst final evolution starters (excluding 7 because it's unknown at this time):

1 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 6

Which is funny since Greninja is now my 2nd fav pokemon, what ruins gen 6 is simply Delphox and Chesnaught are simply terrible designs and will be by far the most disappointing final evolutions ever. Greninja is cool at f--k though.

 

[Siege.exe]

I honestly dont think I'll be buying it. There's too many issues with the series, and if people support the fact that gamefreak/nintendo refuse to actually improve the games significantly it won't change. They need sales to drop for them to improve on it.

1) they need a different formula than catch pokemon, beat random team of bad guys, win badges, beat elite 4. It doesnt matter how much they try to vary it its the same game every single time

2) an actual difficulty. I mean along the lines of gyms not using set pokemon and it being randomized, and them using actual cohesive strategies and exploiting your weaknesses. Have different difficulty levels, at the lowest its set pokemon set move set etc. At the highest its random from either A) all non legendaries in the game or B) All random team/moves from within that pokemons main type

3) Just release a damn full blown RPG on a console already

1) The formula works
2) Random teams are a bit much, but there do need to be difficulty options
3) They did it twice, and while those games are great, not enough people cared about them. Plus, being on a console isn't necessarily a change for the better just by virtue of being on a console.

 

[soccergod]

1) The formula works
2) Random teams are a bit much, but there do need to be difficulty options
3) They did it twice, and while those games are great, not enough people cared about them. Plus, being on a console isn't necessarily a change for the better just by virtue of being on a console.

Except it doesnt really work when 95% of the people i knew that ever played the games quite because the entire series is way to repetitive

 

[Puruzi]

Except it doesnt really work when 95% of the people i knew that ever played the games quite because the entire series is way to repetitive

Anecdotal evidence doesn't mater. Pokemon is still going extremely strong.

 

[Siege.exe]

Except it doesnt really work when 95% of the people i knew that ever played the games quite because the entire series is way to repetitive

Do the 95% of people you know make up the 10-12 million people who consistently buy these games when they come out?

 

[soccergod]

Anecdotal evidence doesn't mater. Pokemon is still going extremely strong.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Pokémon

11 mill sales is a FAR cry from 31 million on first gen

 

[Azuran]

Except it doesnt really work when 95% of the people i knew that ever played the games quite because the entire series is way to repetitive

Except it doesnt when 95% of the people i knew that ever played the games continue playing because the entire series is way to addictive

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Pokémon

11 mill sales is a FAR cry from 31 million on first gen

Well maybe that has to do with the fact that 3DS has a lower install base.

 

[soccergod]

Except it doesnt when 95% of the people i knew that ever played the games continue playing because the entire series is way to addictive

check my link, sales have in fact been in regular decline with a few spikes back up, but it is in a very very big way, trending downwards

 

[Menitta]

Are we diving into the Pokemon formula discussion again? Okay.

Later y'all!

 

[Slamtastic]

Blastoise is garbage tier thought. He brings down the entire set with his presence.

he's water bowser with guns

do not slander

 

[AnathemicOne]

I haven't played Gen 5 or Gen 6 so I might bit biased but for me:

1 > 3 > 2 > 7 or 4 > 6 > 5

 

[ArchedThunder]

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Pokémon

11 mill sales is a FAR cry from 31 million on first gen

Nearly 12 million for a remake and nearly 15 for the last original game.
Oh noooo, Pokeymans is doing sooo horrible.

 

[soccergod]

Nearly 12 million for a remake and nearly 15 for the last original game.
Oh noooo, Pokeymans is doing sooo horrible.

anyone who doesnt see a 50% drop in sales as a big deal is either naive or just simply doesnt understand the market and how important trends are

 

[Neoleo2143]

Games would murder for pokemon's consistently high sales over 20 years. It's not going anywhere, but I do want to know how they plan to change things.

 

[GasProblem]

Gen 1 and 2 starters are still my favorite, also because of a hefty dose of nostalgia. But I think these starters come in third for me.

Rowlet is one of my favorite starters so far