The nuzlocke option will never happen. That essentially acts like Pokémon die and/or are useless. They'd never do that.
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Pokémon Sun and Moon Starters Revealed. Releases November 18th 2016.
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Lord_Byron28
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Yeah that'd be my best guess unless they went with Fire/Fairy or Fire/Steel. Although given we are going to have a fire feline starter. Maybe they won't go with a fire typing and instead use some combo of psychic, fairy and steel. Psychic/steel would be a good opposing typing to dark/fairy.
except nobody has yet to even provide a valid argument for the vast differences seen in the games aside from some competitive stat changes? Adding types should be expected for any game that is literally built on types. Stat changes, whoop, minor tweak. There is not a single thing in the games that has changed plain and simple and if you can't realize/admit that, your blinded by your joy in the game. Enjoying the game is fine, but dont spout bullshit that in ANY other application you would only see as minor changes.
Already Torn
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You couldn't have had 3D Pokemon sprites either though. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. The games change a lot between generations, just not in the arbitrary ways you're choosing for no reason.
"So it changed in this way, so what? It didn't change outside of those ways."
To be clear, I meant the single player games, the "main" portion.
The battle system's depth is part of the multiplayer, and is all but unexplored in the main gameplay. Because that's not the point of that portion.
I play it for deep gameplay though. I'm not walking to have an adventure, I'm walking to hatch these damn eggs.
I do too (love me some competitive mons), though admitly the egg hatching part isn't exactly fun to me >_>
Anyways, since those trademarks ended up being right on the money for the Pokemon on the trailer, there are two unaccounted for trademarks.
Gigareki: I heard some people say this meant "rubbish" or rubble? Not sure if this is a Pokemon since it wasn't romanized, maybe its a mechanic of some sort?
Marshadow: The fact that this name seems sorta international makes me think this could be the third legendary to go with Solgaleo and Lunaala. Maybe it represents eclipses? I just hope it isn't as pathetic as Kyurem and Zygarde were at the start, I'm sicking of getting a third legendary that sucks until years later where it becomes viable >_>
I never gave him the benefit of doubt tbh, I just wanted to see what insane logic leaps he'd come up this time.
and in what way do 3d sprites change the gameplay? Absolutely none
Slamtastic
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Gen 2 rare pokemon swarms with people on the phone calling you up.
Damn, blown up by my lack of memory and not replaying games.
Is it a standard feature since or is it something they only utilized once like the season stuff or all those other features people don't like being dropped?
Does time of day even have much meaning in the games after the novelty of its introduction?
HawthorneKitty
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Or Marshstomp DNA Digivolves with Shadow the Hedgehog.
They make it more entertaining to watch at least
Already Torn
Banned
Well we already pointed out changes that changed the gameplay, but then you said you wanted hardware technical changes. I'm trying to follow the goalposts here.
The kind that eventually just stops caring for a little while after consecutive batches of not getting what they want.
The Shadow Knight
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Nintendo could have opted to just make more 2D games when the 64 came around. Game Freak could have opted to make RBY text based.
I don't see how something new being added that does not require a hardware upgrade somehow disqualifies it as a worthwhile addition.
EDIT: A well known hacker is actually in the progress of adding double battle support to gen 1 games, funnily enough.
To you, do the features of the game beyond the mechanics matter?
Not even mechanics matter to them. The entire physical/special split is just a minor, unnoticeable tweak to the formula, after all.
It is, all it did was change the stat working behind a move, thats literally it. A stat change, That is an EXTREMELY minor tweak that depending on how well written their code is, can be done in literally an hour (except thats untrue for gen1 by nature of it being written in assembly)
That's why I usually just go back to showdown after I've made two or three teams and have a friend hold them while I do a nuzlocke.
ArchedThunder
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Hey, Soccergod, Pokémon clearly isn't for you.
Already Torn
Banned
Come on man
Also, what's with the whole "the validity of a change is how long it took to code" thing? Nobody cares about coding.
Fuck me, you seriously can't see the repercussions that had for the entire series? I can't anymore.
I can't seem to walk away from this for some reason D:
Ok lets relate this to my most played game. Dota 2. Stat changes happen MULTIPLE times throughout the year, in addition to other including hidden stats such as turn rates and BAT. Difference there is those literally completely change the way a hero plays, not just the amount of damage that ticks away at your opponents health bar. And yes, even in dota i consider them minor changes even though they have a large impact on the heroes in the game because it is a simple change to make at the code level.
Slamtastic
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Unpopular opinion: Competitive Pokemon is the worst.
The idea of Pokemon as pets and friends from the single player is at odds with the need to use a limited set of viable choices, and not the players personal favorites.
The constant popping out of babies who get thrown out if they don't have the correct invisible numbers to win...it's the kind of thing an evil team in the story would do.
The two sides of Pokemon are at odds with each other and I want to play through a story that engages me where I can use the ones I like the looks of, be immersed, and form a personal bond with my group even if they're not perfect.
The idea of Pokemon as pets and friends from the single player is at odds with the need to use a limited set of viable choices, and not the players personal favorites.
The constant popping out of babies who get thrown out if they don't have the correct invisible numbers to win...it's the kind of thing an evil team in the story would do.
The two sides of Pokemon are at odds with each other and I want to play through a story that engages me where I can use the ones I like the looks of, be immersed, and form a personal bond with my group even if they're not perfect.
The Shadow Knight
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What bearing does the workload have on the impact of a feature?
As far as I recall, swarms were a Johto thing if only because of the cell phone. Rare pokemon like Audino (or those with hidden abilities, good IVs and/or egg moves) are now found in shaking grass which are technically timed events of about 30 seconds while it's on screen.
Day and night cycle pretty much still exists to evolve eevee but there is something nice about walking around in ORAS outside of Fourtree City and seeing the stars reflected on the surface of the water.
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You're my hero Joe. I want you to know that.
I wouldn't use VGC 16 as an example of competitive Pokemon sucking considering they fucked up the format by not thinking ahead. Stuff like Xerneas and Primal Groudon shouldn't be completely legal in competitive play in the first place.
ArchedThunder
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The physical special split wasn't a stat change, it was a fundamental change to how the battle system works.
Already Torn
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So it's like the physical/special split in Pokémon
Don't play the main game? Go play the so called superior side game then? There is a reason why Pokemon games reign superior in both quality and sales vs Digimon which experiment too much for its own good.
Neoleo2143
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Lmao, There's whole categories of code to be created for the split, not to mention the rebalancing of many, many moves which takes obscene testing which in turn factors into how pokemon movesets are designed in the future. That's a lot of thinking beyond purely the code.
Competitive Pokémon isn't the worst.
The VGC2016 metagame sucks.
There's a difference
So many of my friends and people I know aren't bothering with Nationals this year due to it :/
Not even remotely close to the same.
Already Torn
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No, it is. I promise you're wrong.
Yeah, hardcore competitive pokemon is unfun.
Casual competitive stuff, like between friends, where you get to use whatever you like and not take it that seriously? Those are fun.
Yeah, thisCompetitive Pokémon isn't the worst.
The VGC2016 metagame sucks.
There's a difference
So many of my friends and people I know aren't bothering with Nationals this year due to it :/
Oh christ we already have Pokemon that look like digimon, lets not make them edgelords too!
On a serious note, With the Marsh part of Marshadow's name, maybe it could be a Hippocampus of the eclipse or something
DecoReturns
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Wouldn't the new system become Adaptable thus back to square one?
I'm telling you guys, we need a edgy M-rated dark story.
I'm telling you guys, we need a edgy M-rated dark story.
except for the fact that gamefreak literally blows ass at balancing when the competitive team only has a handful of actually viable choices? including natures and movesets?
except it isnt because unless you actually actively research the change, you wouldnt even know it existed.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I'm not sure Soccergod even knows what the physical/special split is.
Neoleo2143
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Competitive Pokémon isn't the worst.
The VGC2016 metagame sucks.
There's a difference
So many of my friends and people I know aren't bothering with Nationals this year due to it :/
I dunno wtf they were thinking with that rule set this year. They should've kept the previous one, worked out great.
Hopefully, S/M 2017 should set things straight.
Already Torn
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I mean, I can just ignorantly play Dota2 as well and I'd have no idea anything changed. Again, you have no argument, or at the very least you're super bad at expressing your thoughts. Because right now it's mostly nonsense.
DecoReturns
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The game tells about the split. I think it even had an icon change.
For physical and Special
The Shadow Knight
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Do you have any relevant competitive Pokemon knowledge to decide this?
I've been playing competitive since gen 3, and that meta was not even remotely close to any that came after it. I would argue the largest divide can be seen between gens 3 and 4 because of the split.
EDIT: For a specific example: Gyarados got a massive upgrade between those gen 3 and 4. Going from relying on HP Flying for damage to actually having physical water moves along with actual physical coverage moves such as Stone Edge changed its place in the meta drastically. Its match-ups had changed immensely so it had to be played completely differently.
BudokaiMR2
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That's the nature of the beast when you literally have hundreds of monsters along with a high level of move customization.
I'm sure you could bust out a balanced meta-game in a few hours though. Go ahead. I'll wait.