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studyguy said:
California is actually getting its vote by mail ballots now. Majority of my state will have cast their vote long before June as it always has historically. zzzz Just got mine today.
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Me too. I might send it off tomorrow.

So much for campaigning, I'll be way done voting
and I made my decision months ago anyway.
 
With both races essentially over, I suppose the level of interest has plummeted.

To summarize last night:

Bernie won West Virginia's primaries, closing the delegate gap to 276 (using an estimated 7 delegate margin).

Sanders, Trump easily win West Virginia primary; Trump picks up Nebraska too [Washington Post]
Sanders also benefited from support among Democratic primary voters who said they would favor Trump over Clinton or Sanders in a general election. Roughly 1 in 3 primary voters said they would back Trump in the general election over Clinton, and Sanders won two-thirds of their votes.

Clinton was weighed down by her own troubles. Three in 10 Democratic primary voters said they or a family member were employed in the coal industry, and Sanders won those voters by more than 20 percentage points. Ahead of the primary, Clinton was forced to reckon with comments she made earlier in the campaign about putting the coal industry “out of business.”

Sanders used the West Virginia victory as a rationale to stay in the race “until the last vote is cast.” Less than 15 minutes after the polls closed, Sanders sent out an email to supporters declaring victory and asking for money to help him in the next two contests in Kentucky and Oregon.
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In a strange twist, Hillary won Nebraska's non-binding Democratic primary.

Hillary Clinton gets symbolic primary victory in Nebraska, but Bernie Sanders' win in caucuses stands [Omaha World-Herald]
Randy Adkins, a political scientist at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, said Clinton's primary win tonight underscored her supporters' argument that primaries are more democratic than caucuses.

Generally speaking, Sanders has outperformed Clinton in caucus states, while Clinton has done better in primary states.

"(Caucuses) tend to be low-voter turnout events, where there is a real high participation by people who feel strongly about a candidate," Adkins said. "Primaries tend to draw more moderate voters."
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dramatis said:
With both races essentially over, I suppose the level of interest has plummeted.

To summarize last night:

Bernie won West Virginia's primaries, closing the delegate gap to 276 (using an estimated 7 delegate margin).
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Feel the momentum! Hillary better drop out now since Bernie might manage to catch up by next January! /s

dramatis said:
In a strange twist, Hillary won Nebraska's non-binding Democratic primary.

Hillary Clinton gets symbolic primary victory in Nebraska, but Bernie Sanders' win in caucuses stands [Omaha World-Herald]
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I've been seeing some of Bernie's supporters claim that Hillary won the non-binding primary because the people who voted for Bernie during the caucus saw no reason to waste their time voting in the primary (and, of course, placed the 'blame' for Hillary's primary victory there on old people, who apparently are dumb enough and who have enough spare time to waste it on voting in an election that doesn't count). Of course, that primary *does* count, since every other downticket race is held that day, and all of those elections *are* binding. This is yet more proof that the #feelthebern revolution begins and ends with Bernie among his supporters - when downticket races are considered a 'waste of time' by these people, it's no wonder that their 'revolution' is DOA.
 
Oregon and Kentucky tomo for dems, I wonder if Hillary can actually compete in Oregon, she has lead the only poll from there but I thought it was a place Bernie would sweep easily.
 
BanGy.nz said:
The race would be a little closer but I imagine he'd still be in a similar position as he is now.
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Yeah in terms of "organization" Im not sure what the impact would be... maybe winning close early states like iowa and ma would have changed the media narrative but his biggest issue were his crushing losses in the South.

For the most progressive senator from Vermont who is an old non religious jew who accepts the democratic socialist label he has done amazingly well,especially against the most recognized and experienced primary candidate ever... who had the full backing of the democratic party establishment and a lot of the media.
 
DrForester said:
I really do wonder what this primary race would look like had Bernie been more organized from the start.



What is the purpose of having a caucus and a primary? Seems like a complete waste of time.
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Because the Democratic caucus usually involves standing in groups to show your support. That doesn't work if you need to also caucus for Senate, House, state government reps, etc. Caucusing for one race already takes hours. Another reason why a caucus sucks.
 
Kentuckians (Dems only) and Oregonians (both parties), today is your day to vote in the primary.

If you're in Kentucky, polls are only open until 6PM Central and Eastern time.

If you're in Oregon you might have already voted via mail. If you haven't, polls are open until 8PM Pacific Time.

Results will probably be later today because Oregon is west coast.
 
dramatis said:
Kentuckians (Dems only) and Oregonians (both parties), today is your day to vote in the primary.

If you're in Kentucky, polls are only open until 6PM Central and Eastern time.

If you're in Oregon you might have already voted via mail. If you haven't, polls are open until 8PM Pacific Time.

Results will probably be later today because Oregon is west coast.
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Oregon results 6am for me :( not gonna stay up, even tho it might be a close race.
 
Hillary's got this.

Most of Bernies counties in the east have their totals, a lot of Hillary's in the west are yet to come, but more importantly half of Jefferson County is yet to come in where she holds a 10k lead.

46.8% Bernie
46.6% Hillary.

Bernie is leading by 700 votes.
 
Miles X said:
Hillary's got this.

Most of Bernies counties in the east have their totals, a lot of Hillary's in the west are yet to come, but more importantly half of Jefferson County is yet to come in where she holds a 10k lead.

46.8% Bernie
46.6% Hillary.

Bernie is leading by 700 votes.
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She's also leading by 10% in fayette with less than 10% counted. Good buffer if it holds.
 
Square2015 said:
Is Kentucky an open primary, open to indie votes?
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Nope. And the deadline to switch your registration is Dec. 31, before Bernie really hit his stride.

http://www.openprimaries.org/states_kentucky

I voted for Hillary today. I'm in one of the coal counties where she'll lose no matter what, but i still wanted to back her while I backed my legislative candidates. We might get an openly gay Senate candidate in Jim Gray! And he'll lose to Rand Paul, but, again, I want to show my support even if he loses.
 
Certainly looks like Clinton is going to pull out Kentucky. Not that the delegates matter at this point, but it is good for her narrative that she didn't get swept tonight.
 
Benchmark Politics called it for Clinton with a 1% victory (and a delegate tie):

Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 5m5 minutes ago

With 80% reporting, we are ready to make our latest call ever. We are calling Kentucky for Clinton based on Benchmarks. Clinton +1


Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 3m3 minutes ago

Regardless of how close the final few percent end up, the end result in Kentucky will be a delegate tie.
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EDIT: They made a little mistake, Kentucky has an odd number of delegates, so a tie isn't possible, Clinton will get at least +1 delegate.
 
she is behind by a few hundred votes on CNN but still 22% of Jefferson county (Louisville) still to report and she is up pretty big on him there.
 
Still several % more to go:

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