Halo Forge coming to Windows 10 later this year
- Thread starter jbug617
- Start date
OnionPowder
Member
That would be a good comparison except Nintendo doesn't own another platform / promise games on other platforms.
if not at E3 then probably like a month before release just like Quantum Break. There's too much smoke for something not to be there.
Being really easy doesn't mean it doesn't take time and work, especially with a huge game like Halo 5.
And what do you mean why? They weren't as commited to PC Gaming like they are now. Simple.
Because it's much better to use forge on the desktop?
Are you being intentionally obtuse? They did do that. Spencer also said they 'weren't looking to the past' in regards of PC Gaming, Windows and Xbox Games.
Effigenius
Member
This is really damn cool of them, but the entitled bullshit port begging is obnoxious. Map creation on pc is an awesome feature, there is no obligation to also put the game on pc. Buy an xbox one if you want to play halo. If you dont then shut up about it. But dont wine and belittle a really cool gesture because you want more.
Halo 5 does not run on the UWP.
You simply change the executable from h5.xb1 to h5.exe and it works. Duh
Samurai G0SU
Member
GIVE ME MOAR AND I MAY FORGIVE YOU AND NOT REPLY IN ALL CAPS!!
Frankie, hire this person.
Kurt Russell
Member
The PC version will be a UWP, wanna bet? (the Forge thingie)
Why wouldn't it be? MS is pushing the platform like it's the next best thing.
If it is the same tools but on PC, there really won't be that much of an improvement just because you can now Forge in higher resolutions. If they improve the geometry options to make it more in line with PC focused editors, then I will happily shift over to make better Xbox One Maps.
I can see the Xbox One version getting some really good improvements that might actually make the PC shift more worthwhile.
I can see the Xbox One version getting some really good improvements that might actually make the PC shift more worthwhile.
lol Tecnique
Darryl M R
Member
If Halo comes to the PC I'm trading in my xbox the same hour. Nothing would be holy for MS. Crackdown would be next, so would be Scalebound.
Did you even read the blog post?
Well, of course, anything on the Windows Store is a UWP.
UWP ease of cross-platform development doesn't really apply when Halo 5 is not a UWP on Bone. One has to first put it on UWP. Which is what they have done to a chunk of the game.
CalamityPixel
Member
Some people think Halo is coming to PC? MS would be nuts to lose one of their last exclusives.
MS stated before that they will be bringing their games to PC but in forms like Forza Apex. Halo Forge is probably apart of this mindset.
MS stated before that they will be bringing their games to PC but in forms like Forza Apex. Halo Forge is probably apart of this mindset.
An OS is absolutely not the same as a gaming platform. Microsoft don't need games to convince people to use Windows 10 whatsoever. Third parties do that for them. Again, it makes no sense for them to port all of their major exclusives to PC. The only logical reasoning behind wanting them to do that is selfish wishful thinking.
Them releasing games in general and variations of games on PC doesn't = porting all of their exclusives.
All future Forza titles will release on PC. They won't all be like Apex.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Wow, that is pretty damn cool. I remember people wanting this feature before Halo 5 came out. Glad it's finally happening even if I am not a forger. Still will check it out though, because why not?
The above seems to be the only difference. Not enough to make me fully switch but its free, so I will probably see what its like but its way easier on the Xbox to just pop in and out to test something.
Last thimg I heard was exclusives don't matter to consoles.
If you own a locked down platform with lets say 1 million sales, but also own a locked down store for a massively used platform with lets say 2 million sales.
Why would you limit it to your system and also not give it to the store?
Of course you can debate sales, but at least for something like Halo, the MCC with all its faults would probably sell like hot cakes. It's been wanted for years.
In my cause I bought a console they sell at a loss (i assume) and bought a game for the console they lost money on me purchasing.
The game i would have purchased had it been on PC, with 100% profit to them. I dont turn on my Xbox anymore after i got tired of using the controller for a shooter.
Many ways to look at it.
dgrdsv
Member
But they have Project Centennial for such hard cases.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
UWP is the devil, people wouldn't buy proper Halo anyways!
Kurt Russell
Member
Yeah, but your post didn't say that. And yes, MS wants to convince people to use their new Windows Store, and they are using some of their exclusives as bait for that (Gears Ultimate, Quantum Break, etc)
And that "selfish wishful thinking" stuff? Please...
Right and I get this, but you don't have Nintendo promising a better and more valuable commitment to PC gaming year after year.
Halo is, and has been, the franchise PC gamers have been wishing for for decades (simultaneously released) and is MS's crown jewel when it comes to gaming franchises, in terms of sales and value.
I think it would be worth the effort to invest your time/money into delivering to the PC community on this front, especially considering a lot of that functionality is going to already be available soon (Forge).
Do we really think there wouldn't be a huge return for both MS and the PC gaming platform?
Look from their point of view?
Ok.
Halo hasn't been on PC since Halo2.
Now Halo 5's forge is on PC.
If someone isn't interested in forge or custom games, fine:nothing has changed. So how is announcing this features arrival to PC any more offensive than, not having any Halo on PC at all?
It isn't.
regarding the title, there is no clearer way to put it. If you can't read "Forge - Halo 5 edition" and understand that it's referring to The Halo 5 version of Forge, the issue is reading comprehension, not wording.
Uiki
Member
Not now. 5-6 years ago.. maybe. And especially not with UWA in the way.
Good of 343 to finally deliver on this, it's been requested for a long time.
Yep and I imagine starting with Halo Wars 2 all future Halo titles will be on PC as well.
That said, I have a feeling in my gut they bring more MP stuff to the PC in the not-so-distant future, specifically Warzone for that req pack money. It would also make sense to increase MAUs.
Yep and I imagine starting with Halo Wars 2 all future Halo titles will be on PC as well.
That said, I have a feeling in my gut they bring more MP stuff to the PC in the not-so-distant future, specifically Warzone for that req pack money. It would also make sense to increase MAUs.
But Warzone was the most awesome thing about Halo 5 when i played it.
I dont care for the story as ive already finished it, so a solo Warzone for 20-30 dollars with req packs sounds like a good deal to me.
Will it happen? Ehh
BleedOrange
Banned
This thread could definitely do with some rad Forge Map Gifs:
They wouldn't be "losing exclusives" they still control the distribution, and will be making all of the money from the software sales.
Wether someone is buying the game on console or PC SHOULD be of little importance... So long as people are buying the game.
at first i thought "wtf lol". but then i realized that if you give the pc community tools, they'll make some shit. and within that shit, theres bound to be some good shit to come out of it. then i remembered that its probably UWP, but then i read the word FREE. i dont know, this could definitely be something great.
Not sure why you commented me on this. I of course think Halo should be on PC. Shit takes time though. And shit needs to be thought out properly.
That thing was not built to convert Bone software to the UWP.
True I see the store exclusive rationale, but there's a lot of people here who port beg for every major xb1 exclusive simply because they refuse to buy an xb1 for whatever reason, yet can afford a gaming PC. I apologise for the frustration but it does get old pretty quickly.
I think something like MCC is very very unlikely to happen. It's such a mishmash of games and studios that it already caused enough problems on a closed system let alone an open one like PCs.
They do sell the XB1 for a profit since launch AFAIK - both Sony and MS did with it being fairly off the shelf parts.
Store exclusive makes sense but annoys a lot of gamers. Kind of damned if you do damned if you don't.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Does it support sp or coop? I remember getting people to play forge maps was near impossible.
There was a dream a long time ago, to make maps on PC and have they exportable to Xbox. This Windows 10 Forge could be the answer.
I would still love to see more complex level making tools available on PC. I want more access to geometry tools, environmental options and being able to imports prefabs etc. I know some of this is already in the works, so it will be great to see how it developers.
Just need a beta test now!
I think my point was that Halo is what people want most so technically they could release almost all other titles but this franchise is what PC gamers want the most. Not to say those other releases wouldn't be worthwhile or meaningful, but it's sort of like the difference is like getting a bunch of SW spinoff movies without anymore main episodes.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
And so it begins.
Samurai G0SU
Member
You all know it wont be released until OCT.
This must have been an e3 announcement cut and made earlier to make room for something else.
This must have been an e3 announcement cut and made earlier to make room for something else.
Halo will come to PC in a full game. It might not be until there is a new full Halo game though. Who knows. Phil already said they weren't interested in bringing already released games to the platform. Which is why we are seeing most of their announced games as being released on Windows and no already released games getting ported that didn't already have a port announced.
BleedOrange
Banned
This doesn't make any sense. How would the underlying platform hinder 343i's ability to develop and monetize the game? In fact, there are built in API's for Windows Store interaction in the UWP including IAPs, Xbox Live services, Matchmaking, and pretty much everything a company like 343i would need to create Halo 5/6/whatever on top of the platform.
If you're referring to UWPs current lack of modding you should know that App extensions are coming in the next update:
Yeah, that makes sense. What wouldn't make sense though is more Halo games not releasing on PC at the same time as Xbox. So hopefully they follow through.
LordRaptor
Member
This is hilarious; you can almost see the Xbox division squirming under the shareholders Eye Of Sauron and throwing out anything they can to try and appease them while trying not to pawn off their crown jewels in the process.
I'm sure every Xbox One owner would take it with good grace if Half Life 3 was announced tomorrow for PC, and Xbox One owners got a map making app for it but not the game those maps are meant to be played on.
I'm sure every Xbox One owner would take it with good grace if Half Life 3 was announced tomorrow for PC, and Xbox One owners got a map making app for it but not the game those maps are meant to be played on.
I'm not PR people, and porting that game and its content retroactively, with no symmetrical tools or systems accounted for IS hard. Porting WITH those things in mind and tools in place IS easy (relatively).
This thread could definitely do with some rad Forge Map Gifs:
This is great. Wish I was worth a crap at forging.