It does sound different. Hoping someone will post a full replay at Brands Hatch or Willow Springs.
Gran Turismo Sport Unveiling live stream discussion (incl. FIA Championship gameplay)
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It does sound different. Hoping someone will post a full replay at Brands Hatch or Willow Springs.
Here is a screenshot from Forza's hood cam. You can clearly see the other cars in the reflection. In GT you dont.
Granted Forza also uses a cheap screen space technique so even the hud shows up in the reflection but its still better then having a reflection that doesn't match the real world IMO. Not sure what Driveclub or Project Cars do but in those games you also still see cars in your cars reflections.
Now here is a old crappy pic of GT6 but basically GTS still does this.
Only the track is reflected but not the cars.
People have been making excuses for Gran Turismo's short comings and questionable priorities for damn near a decade now.
Its time to wake up, let go and call this spade a spade.
Forza isn't using screen space reflections for cars. They're doing what Bizarre Creations did in Project Gotham, cube maps that update using the previous frame rendered. This is why the cars also weirdly reflect name tags above other cars, and also exhibit the same flaw GT has (no self reflections).
Nice.
It's a very small thing and there's a long way to go yet but I really do hope that the advertising end up showing something more realistic. Like I said, it's a small thing but sports games advertising themselves or the company that makes them is something that does annoy me.
PD are definitely heading in the right direction with those sounds. Count me in for the final product.
That rushed job of a trailer really put some people off. Yikes...
AstroNut325
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This, but had no doubt since the beginning. I'm confident PD will deliver an amazing product.
From what I am seeing, I strongly believe that GT Sports is designed as a game to be compatible (and a launch title) with PS VR and PS4 basic model as a target.
The graphics looks like its a PS3 remastered game and not what we would expect from a next gen GT by the wizards of Polyphony Digital.
Anyway I hope that in the few months of development time they have left to get the car/driving physics right and correct some graphics (frame drops, screen tearing etch) and sound issues.
Do we know the framerate that the game runs?
The graphics looks like its a PS3 remastered game and not what we would expect from a next gen GT by the wizards of Polyphony Digital.
Anyway I hope that in the few months of development time they have left to get the car/driving physics right and correct some graphics (frame drops, screen tearing etch) and sound issues.
Do we know the framerate that the game runs?
I'm almost convinced that PD didn't even make it themselves.
Just skimming through the vid, they finally seemed to have gotten rid of that classic (and annoying) GT tyre squeal sound. Sounds better already.
Vicetrailia
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Someone said they're using the GT6 engine...so....
blastprocessor
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I never bothered with GT6 after playing the demo. Quite a step down in AA after GT5. GT Sport is looking to be a vast improvement.
lol, it seems like there's an evolution of builds or something..strange.
But yeah, that definitely sounds better.
Again though, the shifting sounds ridiculous and still sounds/behaves like previous games. It's like there's an on/off button when changing gears. No clutch play, no trans osscialtion, no variation in rpm range in either engine or trans.
Now granted, other games such as Forza also don't model a proper flex simulation or drivetrain model to a standard such as what Sector 3 has achieved with Raceroom, but there is at least a sense of driveline effects and not that weird on off effect you get with GT.
I was actually having a back and forth with one of Dave Sullivan's (Dirt Rally) audio guys and he was praising Anthony Monteil's (Raceroom) audio work and the implementation of physics driven audio. I'm guessing they've got the same ideas ahead for the next Grid game based upon his words...
Anyway, it looks like GTS is changing for the better everyday and who knows, perhaps they can nail those transmission effects for the final build..
travisbickle
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Also the GTPlanet video of the Mazda Roadster (which they appear to have set to private?) has dashboard reflections on the windscreen. Very noticeable around 3.30
Yep. Also around 5:20.
They set the video to private but it can still be downloaded:
http://www.clipconverter.cc/download/kHVSH2xn/247053448/
This is not fully featured enough (compared to past couple of numbered entries) to be considered GT7. This is basically something like a Prologue++. Has far more content than a Prologue would, but still not enough to be a main game.
GT7 should still happen, but probably won't for a few years.
gundamkyoukai
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I think depending on how this game does we might not get GT7.
Games like this work better with one version with constant updates like DC .
They can also make loads of money this way also .
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/20/gran-turismo-sport-demo-video/
I did not realize that FIA sanctioned means that you get FIA licenses in real life. Thats pretty mind blowing.
Also getting awards together with rest of FIA class winners/champions is amazing.
While they have been doing their competitions for a long time now, and winners were able to race for real teams, this is likely a first time I have felt that game enters real world.
This is true VR to real life.
GT7 on name alone would sell more than GT Sport. Frankly I feel they'd be foolish to ditch the numbering. You get the same questions over and over again. "Is this like a prologue" "Is a proper GT coming out later"
They've set expectations with GT5 and GT6 in terms of how much content they launch with. This isn't like DC which was a brand new franchise. People expect a numbered entry with a ton of content, and they know there are in-between entries for those folks who don't want to wait long.
Even if they come to the decision to use this game as a platform for the remainder of this gen and come out with constant updates for whatever reason, I guarantee you they'll "relaunch" the game later with a big update and call it GT7.
Easiest way to notice them is to look behind the rearview mirror. It is pretty much consistently being reflected throughout, and other dashboard reflections show up in that general area too when they get lit up by the sun.
If you can download, do this, it worked for me.
Voost Kain
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Wasn't there a tweet that basically confirmed this IS GT7 a few pages back?
Yeah, it does sound better. Looks like every build they are improving things.
Maybe at E3 we will see more solid trailer, with maybe night racing?
Shambalakan
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There is a Nurburgring 24h race in menus, so the game will have day/night cycle.
Awesome, I didn't know that ! Thanks
Edit: Maybe we should wait for further confirmation. lol ^^
TheAdmiester
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That's the Nurburgring 24h track, not a 24h race. Notice how the one on the right has what's evidently a track name in the same place.
Omnistalgic
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Seems like a poor initial trailer, but the actual game seems to be shaping up nicely. I'm not sure if they will do a relaunch or a big content GT7, but I preordered it.
I do want my 1000+ car version though, so I'll be good with this being constantly updated or another release of GT7 in 2018.
I do want my 1000+ car version though, so I'll be good with this being constantly updated or another release of GT7 in 2018.
Omnistalgic
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What is this? Looks like real life
Shambalakan
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I thought it means a 24 hours race in Nurburgring!
like the Northern Isle Speedway 300mile: a 300mile race in that track.Loading screen for time attack mode from the video posted earlier.
TheAdmiester
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I thought it means a 24 hours race in Nurburgring!
Now that you mention it it could be true, but it is a layout of the Nurburgring track so it could go either way.
Either way, we should bear this in mind: Gran Turismo 4 also had two 24h races (that were a full 24h long) with no day/night cycle. If dynamic weather has been removed, then it's possible that dynamic TOD has been too, and it's possible that the endurance races are unchanged because of that.
I think we basically just need to wait for official confirmation because after seeing that weather was removed anything could be possible.
The audio in all of those are way off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFnjBU39k_U
The main sound in that car is transmission whine, which is totally missing in pcars and gt.
PdotMichael
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There is no such thing as the Nurburgring 24h track. There is a 24h race on the Nurburgring but not the way.
TheAdmiester
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The track that has the Nordschleife + GP connected is well known as the 24h layout. Whether it's unofficial or not it's named that way in a few games (and then you have others like PGR4 where it's called "The Behemoth" lol)
GHG
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Yes there is. There is a layout of the track that is called Nurburgring 24h. The 24h layout includes the Grand Prix section of the track.
Nurburgring regular:
Nurburgring 24h layout:
Then what do you call the layout encompassing the GP and nordschleife?
squidilix
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Another vidéo comparison with Mazda Car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4c9zx3Rr1Q&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4c9zx3Rr1Q&feature=youtu.be
Crayon
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That's a much better video you found there because the car is actually running wot like the ones in-game. That particular one on that particular day has a very loud trans, surely. Maybe the all sound like that? Either way that sound is missing from both games, like you said.
Most touring cars have that sound. Even a V8 Supercar which you'd think the engine roar would dominate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvORknNAmhk
PdotMichael
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TheAdmiester
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The top picture is the Nordschleife alone, hence the name. The Nurburgring 24h is the Nordschleife and GP circuit combined. It IS a real track.
GHG
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Do me a favour and put the word "Nordschleife" into Google.
Crayon
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Interesting. Do you know any game that gets that cars sound right?
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