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[SPOILER THREAD] X-Men: Apocalypse
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Noisepurge
Member
about 10 seconds or so. ...i think? or was it playing throughout the Angel transformation scene?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Wait what Isaac was under so much makeup and in a costume with so little freedom of movement he couldn't have acted no matter how hard he tried.
He couldn't even gesticulate nor move his head.
Valkerionseven
Member
The movie was entertaining but not memorable to me. Besides Quicksilver I thought most of the cast was boring. I thought Apocalypse himself wasn't menacing and with all the hype behind him, he just came and went to me. Movie was a disappointment because it didn't do much to separate itself from the others, overall generic so and so. Days of the Future Past was a better movie.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yeah, Olivia Munn had nothing to do in this film, it's not her fault her character was wasted. I still think she pulled off the look and I liked her costume. I think they could redeem Psylocke by having her show up as a member of X-Force if they're going with the black-op version of the team.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Yeah, it was strange how she was used in the marketing. I guess there's lots of material on the editing room floor.
I don't think it's weird for Psylocke to be used in marketing because she's one of the Horsemen. Regardless of the size of the actual role, thematically it makes sense to use the villain team in marketing. It's not really disingenuous either, as long as said villains get into fights with the good guys, which they do.
What IS super weird is all the emphasis and focus on Jubilee out of all the new X-men, when she isn't even a character in the film. She's not part of the team, she's not part of the story, she's not anything but a cameo.
What IS super weird is all the emphasis and focus on Jubilee out of all the new X-men, when she isn't even a character in the film. She's not part of the team, she's not part of the story, she's not anything but a cameo.
Maybe she will have a bigger role in the next film? Still weird about the marketing focus on her for this one though.
Marion Cobretti
Member
Movie was pretty bad.
At least it was the type of bad that's enjoyable for all the wrong reasons. This will make for a great MST3K.
But yeah, pretty terrible movie.
Nowhere near as good as DoFP. Overall boring. Bad acting, bad story, bad everything. That wolverine scene was worthless too.
All the villains were super boring.
At least it was the type of bad that's enjoyable for all the wrong reasons. This will make for a great MST3K.
But yeah, pretty terrible movie.
Nowhere near as good as DoFP. Overall boring. Bad acting, bad story, bad everything. That wolverine scene was worthless too.
All the villains were super boring.
MisterHero
Super Member
Jubilee has been teased in like 3 or 4 movies now lmao
Because she is a beloved X-Men and everyone knows her from the cartoon.
That said, wasnt she more a 90s X-Men anyway? I can be wrong.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yeah, she's barely present in the comics nowadays but she was Wolverine's sidekick in the early 90s which is arguably when the X-Men comics were at their peak in terms of popularity and when a lot of people, myself included, started following them. She took over the Kitty Pryde role in the team and was the more relatable character for young readers, that's why she was popular and was included in the cartoon.
Hot girl in BDSM suit is the most easy marketing you can have.
Oh noes, Munn's body isn't lean enough to be Psylocke! And, and there was that one scene where her belly was too big! It was totally gross, like sharp knees! She's not hot Asian waifu material like I demand Psylocke to be!
Seriously, what the hell am I reading? 🙄
Miles Quaritch
Member
You can fire your arrows from the tower of babel, but you will never strike God.
I must admit, I loved this line so much. It's a shame he didn't have more lines like this. I would have marked the hell out if they had included I am the rocks of the eternal shore, crash against me and broken when he was fighting towards the end.
I must admit, I loved this line so much. It's a shame he didn't have more lines like this. I would have marked the hell out if they had included I am the rocks of the eternal shore, crash against me and broken when he was fighting towards the end.
Considering what we saw in promotional and set pics, aparently Jubilee was just unlucky to have most of her scenes cut
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I find it hilarious that Scarlet Witch is dead here and Quicksilver is alive.
And wait, Jubilee is supposed to be in more scenes? Darn, was actually disappointed we didn't see her powers.
And wait, Jubilee is supposed to be in more scenes? Darn, was actually disappointed we didn't see her powers.
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Deleted member 20920
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I don't think that was supposed to be her. The name's different.
catashtrophe
Member
Who said Scarlet Witch is dead here?
Quicksilver had 2 sisters in DoFP (or 1 if you didn't count the deleted scene)
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Maybe it's just me but I feel there's like a "technology dissonance" here. Like I thought the basement looked a bit too "techy" for the 80's.
Maybe it's the lack of panels.
Wait, that wasn't SW? Then who was she supposed to be? I thought the powers were a bit on the "vague mystical" side.
Maybe it's the lack of panels.
Wait, that wasn't SW? Then who was she supposed to be? I thought the powers were a bit on the "vague mystical" side.
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Deleted member 20920
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Her name was Nina. Scarlet Witch would have to be at least named Wanda, twin or otherwise.
Who was the woman who was talking to Peter? Sure wasn't his mum unless they recasted. Wasn't the sister either because she was younger in the deleted scene and the other sister who was only mentioned in DoFP sounded closer to his age.
Edit: Seems like it was his mother.
So we still hasn't seen Scarlet Witch or that mentioned sister yet. So she's probably her.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
always thought it was Wanda, I guess my bad in hearing
catashtrophe
Member
If we talking about DoFP then Quicksilvers mum (in the deleted scene) said to QS younger sister go upstairs and bug your big sister. Which would imply the big sister is Wanda who they have yet to show on screen
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Out of interest
Does it get mentioned how ridiculous it is that they all look basically the same as they did 20 years prior?
Does it get mentioned how ridiculous it is that they all look basically the same as they did 20 years prior?
Miles Quaritch
Member
Wanda will probably show up if they do the Phoenix Saga. Nina's power seemed to be controlling or influencing animals.
Her first scene was the deer around her while she's talking/laughing with one.
Her first scene was the deer around her while she's talking/laughing with one.
They mention this in the film. Repeatedly.
Miles Quaritch
Member
There's some noticeable ageing when they show flashbacks of FC.
McAvoy especially looked much older in comparison. Fass and Byrne less so.
Garrett Hawke
Member
literally nobody could wear that outfit without it accentuating their stomach. it's really poorly designed, it has this big patch of blank fabric right over the tummy which makes it look really big.
Olivia Munn.. urghhh. there was one shot where her belly looked really big.
Overall disappointing - Apocalypse was great, and Jean defeating him was a satisfying enough conclusion, but the plot felt like a really mundane and forgettable event. The stakes should definitely have felt higher, now I'm not one to think death = stakes - but Mystique should've have been killed off, for more reasons then one. I suppose it's less a fault of the movie itself, as Apocalypse does really go to town on the team (Quicksilver.. ouch), and more a fault of the trailers for spoiling the final shots in their entirety, giving away who survives to join the team (Wolverine also should have been kept a surprise).
Miles Quaritch
Member
Did you rike the Phoenix?
Loved that scene. I kept my expectations in check thanks to you but was blown away when the shroud appeared.
Can't wait to see them treat it properly, I just hope Singer doesn't get sidetracked with some other nonsense this time.
LOL, Jesus this sounds awful.
Miles Quaritch
Member
The Wolverine/Weapon X scene felt entirely unnecessary and the movie would feel much better without it.
I would have liked to have seen how the kids handled getting them out rather than just coming in after a feral Wolverine PG13 rampages his way through a whole base of soldiers.
I would have liked to have seen how the kids handled getting them out rather than just coming in after a feral Wolverine PG13 rampages his way through a whole base of soldiers.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
But the kids got them out BY letting Wolverine take care of business.
Jean knew what was in there, and she let it out on purpose.
Again - the entire scene isn't about Wolverine. It's about Jean/Scott/Kurt figuring out how to work together and be a team on their own, without teacher supervision. Jean used Wolverine to do it.
Miles Quaritch
Member
That's a fair interpretation, but I still would have liked to see them go at it themselves. Use their powers as a team and finally show Cyke taking a more leadership role.
I'm sure we'll see that in the next movie though, so it's not a huge deal.
Liamario
Banned
Very disappointing movie. The RT score is hard to argue with, to be honest.
Phoned in performances, bad writing, bad casting and bad costumes. Nothing that happened felt earned. I never once felt emotionally involved in the apocalypse that was taking place.
Quicksilver's Mansion sequence, while cool, felt out of place and was there just for fun.
Wolverine scene felt like it was thrown in at last moment. The whole events surrounding it felt very cheap, like something from a tv show.
Tonal inconsistencies riddled throughout the film. Fight sequences were very bland (probably due to the fact that I really couldn't care less about the events that were happening).
There were too many characters/motivations to establish for one movie. The payoff just wasn't felt. I did feel that it was all made to please the fans, when they should have been focusing on making a good movie.
This movie was Bryan Singer's test for me. Matthew Vaughan made First Class and was making DOFP before he stepped away from it. Singer really only stepped in just before production began fully. In any case, he showed that the IP needs to be given to someone else.
Personally I think it's time for a reboot after Wolverine 3.
Also, I thought Mystique rescued Wolverine at the end of DOFP?!
Phoned in performances, bad writing, bad casting and bad costumes. Nothing that happened felt earned. I never once felt emotionally involved in the apocalypse that was taking place.
Quicksilver's Mansion sequence, while cool, felt out of place and was there just for fun.
Wolverine scene felt like it was thrown in at last moment. The whole events surrounding it felt very cheap, like something from a tv show.
Tonal inconsistencies riddled throughout the film. Fight sequences were very bland (probably due to the fact that I really couldn't care less about the events that were happening).
There were too many characters/motivations to establish for one movie. The payoff just wasn't felt. I did feel that it was all made to please the fans, when they should have been focusing on making a good movie.
This movie was Bryan Singer's test for me. Matthew Vaughan made First Class and was making DOFP before he stepped away from it. Singer really only stepped in just before production began fully. In any case, he showed that the IP needs to be given to someone else.
Personally I think it's time for a reboot after Wolverine 3.
Also, I thought Mystique rescued Wolverine at the end of DOFP?!
WadiumArcadium
Member
I enjoyed it. It's definitely a bit muddled and the ending fight went on too long but I still had fun with it. Fassbender and McAvoy put in good performances again. I had my doubts over Sophie Turner as Jean but she did a good job and I dug Tye Sheridan as Cyclops.
Ottoman did a great job with the soundtrack as well. So good.
Mystique definitely needs to take a back seat now though.
Ottoman did a great job with the soundtrack as well. So good.
Mystique definitely needs to take a back seat now though.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
What did Apocalypse mean when he said "all is revealed" before he died? Was he talking about the Phoenix?
Dark Ninja
Member
Very bland and mediocre movie. The costumes still scream out that they don't want to use them. Apocalypse looked good in some shots. The weapon X outfit looked like execs were scared it would cover Jackman's face too much so they didn't make the full helmet.
The Mystique pandering was out of control. Is this how people who hate Wolverine feel.
The Mystique pandering was out of control. Is this how people who hate Wolverine feel.
a Master Ninja
Member
This movie is a bit of a mess, but I thought Days of Future Past was a bit of a mess. DoFP did have a strong ending, though.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
So was Apocalypse actually brain washing the Horsemen or was he just persuasive? The movie wasn't very clear.
So I enjoyed it a lot. I do see the complaints tho. Quicksilver is just <3 He's quickly grown into my favorite X-man thanks to these movies.
Duckroll you were right I was like "YES" During the Phoenix scene. That's what I wanted. Fire wings and shit.
Now the pacing and scene jumping at the beginning threw me off a ton. It was fine later on for me but it just felt kinda like "AND NOW OVER TO THIS EVENT".
Still enjoyed it.
Duckroll you were right I was like "YES" During the Phoenix scene. That's what I wanted. Fire wings and shit.
Now the pacing and scene jumping at the beginning threw me off a ton. It was fine later on for me but it just felt kinda like "AND NOW OVER TO THIS EVENT".
Still enjoyed it.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The movie didn't really clarify that, or even clarify why he needed Horsemen.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
That's true too. I guess "because it's something from the comic" is the only real answer.
Having straight up superheros like Storm and Psylocke willingly join him seems really odd to me though.
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