AndrewDean84xX
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Wii U Maggie
XB1 = Lisa
PS4 = Marge
PS4 Neo = Bart
Xbox Scorpio = Homer
PC = Ned
Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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Wii U Maggie
XB1 = Lisa
PS4 = Marge
PS4 Neo = Bart
Xbox Scorpio = Homer
PC = Ned
Trogdor1123
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This makes no sense to me, the jump is too big. This would be closer to abandoning their current folks. It won't look even similar.
you don't like the idea of console manufacturers stupidly trying to outpiss each other every 2-3 yrs???
Wishmaster92
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Microsoft war chest is about to open? 6tf Scorpio.... Damn
piccio_ssl
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no fucking way this is gonna happen
It will be rectangular and black. That's close enough!
AnthonypUK
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hahahahahah i really hope they follow through on this plan, if they do the Xbox division is completely fucked. Well unless they have half a dozen new studios and can come up with new franchises to replace their stale and decreasing ones.
Power isn't the reason why the Xbox is failing outside of the US, by the time this releases there could be 75 million Sony consoles, where as the Xbox will; be lucky to inch to 30m if they announce this new console, tanking sales.
And sony then can pre-empt the Xbox at E3 2017 and announce a new Sony gen even more powerful to move their user base over too in 2018.
Power isn't the reason why the Xbox is failing outside of the US, by the time this releases there could be 75 million Sony consoles, where as the Xbox will; be lucky to inch to 30m if they announce this new console, tanking sales.
And sony then can pre-empt the Xbox at E3 2017 and announce a new Sony gen even more powerful to move their user base over too in 2018.
EventHorizon
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Price is going to be the big gotcha here unless Microsoft wants to start subsidizing hardware again. This is going to be like the sticker shock of Hololens all over again although not quite that bad. I think the Scorpio will first be pushed out more to gain back the performance crown from Sony than to get real market share. Sony is playing a bit of this performance game too with the Neo but their target is more on the reasonable side. For the next few years the PS4 followed behind by the XB1 will dominate the console space. For most gamers the Neo and Scorpion will be asperational products and not a real part of the landscape.
One wrinkle could be that the Scopion won't target the console market directly. It will instead be marketed as a mass market standardized PC that can also play console games. In that context its price won't be viewed as high for a console but low for a PC.
One wrinkle could be that the Scopion won't target the console market directly. It will instead be marketed as a mass market standardized PC that can also play console games. In that context its price won't be viewed as high for a console but low for a PC.
It's probably going to be 2 years. Odd and even releases. We're the best, now they are the best, now back to us being the best again...
Cause Zen isn't ready yet, and HBM2 isn't viable for a while yet at a mainstream level.
GinoFelino
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Scorpio??
Phil = Zodiac Killer confirmed
Fbh
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Pffff that doesn't hold a candle to the Ps4K 2 with it's 7 TFLOP, expect it late 2017
Though don't get to excited because the Scropio one with its 8 TFLOP is soon to come, expec it mid 2018
Though you might want to hold on because why would you want a weak Scorpio One if you can get a Ps5K in late 2018, and that thing doesn't just have 9 TFLOP it has got 9 BLAST-TFLOP. and it's just a few more months!!!
Though don't get to excited because the Scropio one with its 8 TFLOP is soon to come, expec it mid 2018
Though you might want to hold on because why would you want a weak Scorpio One if you can get a Ps5K in late 2018, and that thing doesn't just have 9 TFLOP it has got 9 BLAST-TFLOP. and it's just a few more months!!!
Right, but if Sony is releasing a more powerful veersion of the console that's stomping them what else are they going to do? Not fight just because it won't close the gap? MS wanted to win the gen. Once it was apparent that it wouldn't happen they still have a business to run. Fuck catching Sony, they need to stay relevant and try to make money. Having 2 versions of Playstations that are better that the XB1 isn't a good look.
I'm not questioning the existence of Scorpio.
What I'm critical of is the timing of the announcement so far ahead from the actual launch of the new console.
Have you heard any rumblings as to why MS are willing to let XB1 sales crater for over a year until Scorpio launches? What other logical reason is there, if not to counter NEO's announcement?
gamerMan
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Then what was the reason? I bought a PS4 over Xbox One at launch because of the power. At launch, there weren't any exclusive games on either console that made you want to buy either system.
Yeah, 4X Times the Boredom!
you see...this is why we should never think
DizzyCaffeine
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That has to play be fully compatible with Xbox One games. Will this even have games made exclusively for it? If it doesn't, it's not a "next-gen" system.
Wind's Howling
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Change is good, people say.
Until it hits home.
Until it hits home.
CassidyIzABeast
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Its probably going to be an AMD chip so its more like a R9 290x
Battlefront II at 4K/60fps.
With 8GB RAM (5.5GB of RAM usable), 4K is going to be tough. They are going to need more than that. I have 24GB RAM in my PC and can hear it cracking at the seams (not literally... that would be cause to replace it). 4K textures are pretty massive.
price + the marketing PR nightmare of always online and used game shit
their fumbled reveal of the console
I kind of wanted to see a 3DS game sharing screen time with these XScorpio/PS4Neo games. It'd have been a hilarious juxtaposition.
hydrophilic attack
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Poor Nintendo
THE:MILKMAN
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Hey! This is gaming's silly season. And you love it.
Battlefront II at 4K/60fps.
At 10 fps.
If they are dropping the XBO with this, that would be terrible.
Interfectum
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6 tflops? Goddamn!
Announcing a late 2017 release at this year's E3, a move that's 100% sure to kill Xbox One sales, is Microsoft saying "bye" to this console generation. Scorpio is a reset button.
I'm not buying into the promise of support for Xbox One. It'll be dumped within a year of Scorpio's release, as far as 1st party studios are concerned.
Price?
TheSpoiler
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Going by movies
Wii U= Fantastic 4
XB1= The Notebook
PS4= X Men 3
PS4 Neo= X Men 3 Directors Cut
Xbox Scorpio= Civil War
Wii U= Fantastic 4
XB1= The Notebook
PS4= X Men 3
PS4 Neo= X Men 3 Directors Cut
Xbox Scorpio= Civil War
I am just talking about the power jump. It is that big. I don't like it any more than you, btw.
Please don't be rectangular.
I miss the curvy trend of last gen for both Sony and Microsoft.
You under-estimate Polaris and Zen my dear friend.
Horrible graphics/framerate in the old console, same as the PS4. Which is what most people haven't realized yet.
BackBackPunch
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What if the new "Xbox" is what SteamBox was trying to accomplish? Various models, different specs, different prices, all Xbox branded, and all using Windows 10 as a unifying OS. Meaning that Xbox consoles would be "badged" gaming PCs for the mainstream, ever-evolving but always backwards compatible (like PCs), and PCs would essentially function as custom built Xboxes, able to play all the Xbox/Windows 10 games. At this point, it's not like their console "exclusives" are worth much in the grand scheme of things. Might as well just focus on the Windows 10 ecosystem like Steam has done with its own for so many years.
Could be if they feel it will keep folks from jumping ship to PS/Neo.
It would fit the philosophy of everything else the Microsoft hardware team is doing: build a premium device for other manufacturers to follow as an example. Xbox hardware moved into their group last summer, so having something ready by end of next year (2+ years later) sounds reasonable.
Maybe it's cheap enough and has enough good games to justify? The current Xbox One is $299 on Amazon right now, so if the slim plus a game or two gets into $199-249 territory then that seems a good deal to at least bridge the gap for a bit, no?
SmoothRunningGun
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Why would anyone buy an x1 between now and release of this new thing? This makes their slim doa.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
But PS4 and Neo GAF isn't this big
Oh, I agree! I am talking exclusively about the power jump. If it is indeed this big, then it might as well be their next-gen system.
LordOfChaos
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And if they always support at least one generation back, you're still looking at 6 year console lives. XBO/PS4 are still supported while the Scorpio/Neo are out, in another three years if another iteration drops and the n-2 is dropped, the XBO and PS4 would have still had a fairly standard console life (actually long, compared to everything but the freakishly long 7th gen).
If they did support n-2 boxes, that would be a very long 9 year life, though I imagine 6 boxes between MS and Sony would drive devs batty and hamstring the one two generations more advanced than the last.
My only lament would be, with more powerful hardware out, what developer would put effort into squeezing every last drop out of the older boxes, rather than just doing their graphical showcases on the higher end machines?