DagnastyEp
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A 6TF console in 2017 would be awesome. It will be really interesting to see how the market (and devs) reacts when this and PS4NEO are in the wild.
Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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I have a 1600e PC. Gaming is a major hobby for me and one that I have always been willing to invest in. It's all about the games for me and their quality. I want better. I don't necessarily "want" expensive consoles but I'm willing to pay for it if the tech is there.
Yep.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
If it's releasing in October as per a rumour l read well they must be building and stockpiling them now i'd of thought.
according to my uncle at nintendo they are prepared to go up to 20 teraflops if needed aka full super saiyan goku
Jack The Nipper
Banned
If they just want games to look bettter and better like they did with xbox > 360
I feel it's killing the art of the game and making people want the best looking games or forget style. It's not the best thing in my mind. This practice has not been kind to the developers and the health of gaming.
but agree with the above anyways, sony could easily afford to wait a year and launch more power/cheaper
Sony is going to go first and maybe take a huge lead in VR　so maybe that plan will actually win out if people are a bit saturated or tired of it by the time xbox rolls it out also
I feel it's killing the art of the game and making people want the best looking games or forget style. It's not the best thing in my mind. This practice has not been kind to the developers and the health of gaming.
but agree with the above anyways, sony could easily afford to wait a year and launch more power/cheaper
Sony is going to go first and maybe take a huge lead in VR　so maybe that plan will actually win out if people are a bit saturated or tired of it by the time xbox rolls it out also
Should also be amusing to watch Microsoft run Xbox into the ground like Windows phone and their operating systems...
gundamkyoukai
Member
Why would the flip flop from sales ?
Maybe power but if the system coming a year later it should be more powerful .
I admit that I am torn on what to do. I have a big PS4 library and I really don't like having multiple consoles if I can avoid it but that performance delta could be tough to ignore. We will have to see how things pan out.
There are several math failures at play here.
4 x 1.3 = 5.2, so it would have been more accurate to ~4.5 times in this case if you're keeping numbers simple, or 4.6 to be actually accurate.
PS4 Neo is exactly 4.197888 TFLOPS based on the rumors, so where does 4.14 come from? I can only guess that they rounded the clock down to 900MHz for some reason. Sounds like someone was being lazy. The couldn't even be bothered to properly round up to 4.15 in that case.
I'm also curious on how they would get there. They can't possibly be crazy enough to use a full Polaris 10, can they? That would be hell in terms of yields, especially since it would need to run at a rather high ~1.2GHz. Maybe it could be Vega 11, but that seems too large.
4 x 1.3 = 5.2, so it would have been more accurate to ~4.5 times in this case if you're keeping numbers simple, or 4.6 to be actually accurate.
PS4 Neo is exactly 4.197888 TFLOPS based on the rumors, so where does 4.14 come from? I can only guess that they rounded the clock down to 900MHz for some reason. Sounds like someone was being lazy. The couldn't even be bothered to properly round up to 4.15 in that case.
I'm also curious on how they would get there. They can't possibly be crazy enough to use a full Polaris 10, can they? That would be hell in terms of yields, especially since it would need to run at a rather high ~1.2GHz. Maybe it could be Vega 11, but that seems too large.
Just going with a good gaming rig makes more sense than it ever has for me with all of this news. As I mentioned earlier, I might end up doing that before it's over.
You trying to get a new tag?
ArchedThunder
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Either this thing is gonna be pretty expensive or the rest of the specs aren't going to actually be enough.
Or both!
Or both!
But lions, jaguars and tigers don't purr. WiiU & X1 bias detected, lol
Shit, I was assuming that there are no catologists on this board, but they seem to follow me whereever I go. Damn you!!!
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
If it simply runs current gen games like Neo, then it's not. Also, can't put a finger on where a generational leap is, but 3x the FLOPS using the measuring flavour of the month (once upon a time it was MIPS) is not happening anyways.
vpance
Gold Member
It won't, but it's kind of an overrated thing since 3rd parties will never go that deep anyways. Few can be an ND or a Remedy.
Some arguments and speculation, but that's about it.
Tallshortman
Member
Vega 11 is more powerful than polaris 10.
They are already sending kits to devs. I'd imagine the hardware is locked down. Maybe they can do some last minute overclocking like MS did with the XBO cpu
Why would they stop caring about sales numbers? PS4/Neo is still in the picture to be the market leader.
Night Angel
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You're right. You probably just made up absurd statements of the "opposing" POV and exposed nonexistent hypocrisy because you have poor reading comprehension.
I'm almost certain it's happening. Shame really. It's just gonna be PSNEO soon vs NX. Looking forward to QB though on Scorpio.
Dev Kits don't mean shit these days. Look at how Sony fooled devs with the Orbis Dev Kit.
This Def. is a next gen system for MS. 4 years after the Xbox One launch... Will probably be 499 bucks again but this time they will have the best hardware and likely the best multiplatform games. So they can justify the price for the hardcore audience... No Kinect and TV BS this time.
UnforgivenTwin
Member
Bold move Cotton let's see if it pays off for them.
The article doesn't say anything about having exclusive games so it still could, it just says it will play xboxone games but BC is a given for any MS console now
Silent Chief
Member
The new Xbox, well, not the new one, that's just a smaller box, the new Xbox that comes after the new Xbox will be a bigger FLOP.
Yeah, MS PR will have to do some spin on that.
You are sadly a minority when it comes to console gamers... proof being the sea of silence whenever a consoles price is announced at anything above $400. I've never understood it personally, but its clearly a big factor for general consumers and a big reason sony is in the lead by such a huge amount in the first place.
MS would have to sell at a huge loss to gain ground back i think.
2blackcats
Member
I don't know how much these things cost but we're talking 18 months from now. That will make a difference surely?
Livingskeletons
If I pulled that off, would you die?
4X AS POWERFUL AS THE XB1!!!??
Consoles this gen have been bonkers.
So 2-3 years between iterations? I don't like it
try 1 or 2.
maybe not tommorow but 6tflop console wont be 800 in 2017 ....
outunderthestars
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Has anyone else besides Arthur Gies reported this? I just cannot bring myself to take anything he says seriously.
gundamkyoukai
Member
If they both go this road the question is which eco system you want to be lock into .
Cause every few years a new system will come out from both of them .
That might leap frog each other .
They're just going to start calling them all Xbox, no number or designation.
Inside the retail box is a console case. every year you have to buy new insides.
You have the Home Entertainment model, and the more deluxe Gaming model.
A few quid at best. It'll all be Semi custom which doesn't fall in price as quick.
Man, you must be great at parties! Don't ruin the fun! I was completely in the troll twilight-zone until you pulled me back in...
So 2-3 years between iterations? I don't like it
Obviously Neo is happening which yeah, probably a bit too soon but I feel like MS would most benefit from a move like this right now when they lost a lot of market lead steam this gen.
A $600+ system 4 years after releasing a $500 one. I can't even begin to imagine such a scenario.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Hahahaha, now this cracked me up. Those DBZ posts are so, um, gag worthy every time I see them over the years, lol.
Polygon posted some new details:
Forever a classic, lol.
The Mad Draklor
Member
So 2-3 years between iterations? I don't like it
If it's like every year, then yeah, I wouldn't like it. If it's something like every 3-4 years, which fits the bill for both the Neo and Scorpio, it's fine.
And good luck with that.
nelsonroyale
Member
On the one hand, the leap is not exactly impressive for their follow up console, on the other as an iteration it is quite big and not particularly economical. The PS4 is just doing better than the xbone because it is more powerful. It could have been the same power range and it would clearly still have outsold it...