Yep, MS and Sony have finally found out how to capitalize on the last console advantage - namely convenience. You're going to pay for it, and you're going to like it.
Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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Yep, MS and Sony have finally found out how to capitalize on the last console advantage - namely convenience. You're going to pay for it, and you're going to like it.
Sry I meant 499 just like the Xbox One. They couldn't justify the One price because of the lackluster hardware compared to the PS4.
Livingskeletons
If I pulled that off, would you die?
Dat Hubris.
So, in other words Nintendo gave NX a rare candy and it overflowed to level 0?
CrimsonEclipse
Member
? They may not get you but they will get plenty others, so no need to be sorry.
Silent Chief
Member
I can't imagine many devs doing Xbox 2 exclusives. Will they just do the same games in 1080/60fps? At any rate, the hardware is just a more powerful PC. It was locked down 3 years ago.
nelsonroyale
Member
Is it really a good idea to release a year later? Neo will clearly be a 1.5, but this will be a next xbone if true...PS5 will probably release a couple of years later and be massively more powerful. Then the next xbone...This is a rubbish model in my opinion. They need to make the GPUs upgradeable...
Trogdor1123
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Now maybe I'm confused but system ram has no impact on textures does it? Just GPU memory matters right?
ArchedThunder
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With this coming in Fall 2017 and Neo supposedly coming this year or early next year and being about 4.2TF I could totally see Xbox Two being in the range of 4.5 to 5TF. This difference in visuals and performance would be like PS4 and Xbox One but in favor of Xbox this time.
6 is hard to believe.
But he didn't put it in his article. He's essentially saying he heard the same thing. I mean it's looking legit but that could have been a number that was just tossed around. We'll see nonetheless.
Obliterator
Member
Ah kk. That said if Jason also heard this I'm much more inclined to believe this spec is indeed the actual target. If Polygon and Jason are hearing similar things thats quite a bit of evidence
somecrazymember
Banned
My grandma works at Gamestop and she beta tested the Scorpio in the future. She said Halo 12 will come out begin 2017 with 8 Tflops
Yeah, it certainly means that they are shooting for it at this point.
Lmao oh man what a day. It's been awfully quiet on Twitter as well . Not too many Sony fans trolling around with their sock accounts. Can't wait for e3 . Going to be one hell of a day with the megatons.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Shame the PS4 and XB1 will never show their limits several years later like previous consoles. End of an era.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Lol
Nah they couldn't justify the price because no one is really willing to shell out $500 for a new console regardless.
Teletraan1
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The difference was that the PS4 was the stronger between two consoles released at virtually the same time. This Scorpio box is rumored to be coming out up to a year later than the Neo is rumored to be coming out. Not exactly the same situation.
It is almost closer the original XBOX plan. It released later than PS2 and was more powerful and that didn't seem to help them one bit, the die was already cast. I feel they need a full generation reset before you can just snatch market share like they did with the 360 (at least in NA and also released first). These incremental updates won't allow anyone to push the reset button so to speak and you would have to win market share over time. Depends on if we are counting this 2017 release as a new generation or an iteration. Also nothing stopping sony from roadmapping a 2018 8TFLOP Trinity console. Kind of interesting times ahead.
Anecdotally, I know several others who feel the same way. Mine trumps yours on the Internet. See how that works?
Obliterator
Member
Yep that's what I'm thinking. Who knows if 6TF will be the final spec of what we see but that looks to indeed be the internal target
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Dunno. It all seems like such a rush to counter the NEO. I'm not believing anything just yet.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Oh shit, that makes things a lot more credible now. Doesn't it?
gundamkyoukai
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If MS coming out a year later they better hit that 6 target .
Cause coming out a year later with 5tflops don't look nearly as good comapre to NEO.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Let's hope it's not cloud powered 6tf otherwise neo is back.
you're overthinking it
It does. It means at the least it's an internal target. Jason then goes on to say he only heard it from one source and that sources insist specs aren't final.
It's likely going to come down to alot of factors. Most likely price if they stick with this.
Pathfinder
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These things are in development long before we hear a peep about them.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
I like that they're releasing a year apart. As someone who buys both consoles this will make things easier to handle.
Baroquemantic
Member
Makes sense that it would be more powerful than the Neo if it's coming out a year later (assuming the Neo releases this year).
Rumors of iterative Xbox hardware started before rumors of a new PS4.
Pretty much I can justify spending $400+ a year apart for two consoles.
Obscuritas
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I disagree. We have seen some beatiful (and stable) shits from the 3rd parties, like Battlefront from Dice, The Division from Massive, Doom from Id etc. etc.
We are still talking about closed architectures here, time is not forgettable when devs are trying to make the best out of their kits.
So I'm working on catching up with everything, is there any talk of the revision that is coming out this year supporting 4K video for UHD Blu-rays? That would make that in an instant buy for me this year and it ultimately becoming a bedroom box next year when the Scorpio drops.
In 2017, Vega will be a brand new, large die, flagship priced piece of silicon.
How will MS cram it into a $500 box?
vpance
Gold Member
I think this is one of the big reasons behind why it's coming Fall 2017. MS is working hard to figure out how to emulate ESRAM for full BC.
So they're going to have a more budget friendly Xbox One Slim that is less powerful than PS4 and often has some graphical deficiencies in 3rd party games... and then tell people if they wait a year and a half they can get a console that leaps ahead of the PS4.
To be honest I don't see that changing much, people will just lump for the PS4 or Neo that they can get much sooner. They won't have to wait to have the best performing console right now for the next year or year and a half. And guaranteed we'll see the PS4.5.5 or PS5 announced not long before the Xbox 2 goes on sale, and people just hold off for that instead while enjoying Neo PS4 games that look pretty great anyway.
To be honest I don't see that changing much, people will just lump for the PS4 or Neo that they can get much sooner. They won't have to wait to have the best performing console right now for the next year or year and a half. And guaranteed we'll see the PS4.5.5 or PS5 announced not long before the Xbox 2 goes on sale, and people just hold off for that instead while enjoying Neo PS4 games that look pretty great anyway.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Lol, no need to feel offended man. I'm just saying you and the several others not gonna matter. Your post just seemed as if they are pleading to you to purchase this rumored console.
If you are not interested in their console and these rumors why are you here?
They're putting it in the power brick, duh!
Yes the Xbox One Slim is 40% smaller and will have 4K support for video stuff.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Honestly, it wouldn't matter if it really ended up being 10TF. Releasing anything more than 3 months after Neo renders the whole thing a pointless exercise.
Baroquemantic
Member
I could totally see this, and I want all of them. Just need to get rich.
Also, you're a cool cat. 