Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

B4s5C

Member
Hey, fresh college graduate.

Looking for Industrial organizational psychology/ human resources positions of some kind without much in the way of research/work experience.

Anyone want to give some general advise? Is there a especially good website I should use to search for careers? Anything I should know in particular? Do I curl up in a ball and cry? Anything is useful.

Hey, you have my same degree! And you should not curl up in a ball and cry at all!

SIOP always has jobs posted but I never bothered with that. How is your LinkedIn presence? I used that exclusively applying for jobs, albeit because I was lazy and didn't want to write cover letters and fill in the same information across organizations who use Taleo. I applied for 500+ just doing LinkedIn apply and kept going until a few stuck that I liked.

Here is some general advice I can give you regarding LinkedIn:
- Make sure your title and presentation comes off as a professional rather than a student.
- Include an email in your resume that isn't .edu or otherwise gives off a student vibe.
- Apply in areas where there might not be as big of an I-O presence.
- Utilize a free month of LinkedIn Premium so you can mark your Resume as (Sponsored).
- Make sure you are applying for entry or associate level jobs.
- Don't be picky. Highlight different ways you can add value to their organization outside of the job description.
- Ask for informational interviews with your LinkedIn Premium account
- Max out your LinkedIn groups (broadens your network for recruiters to find you)
- Include buzzwords in your summary like Data-Driven, Detail-Oriented, People Analytics.

If you need some help finding jobs or anything, send me a PM. I have a few school specific job boards that I can pull from to give you a few leads.

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That goes for anybody who needs some help applying for jobs, preparing for interviews, or needing any advice related to the job hunt/interview process. It might take me a day to become available but it brightens my day helping others get the job they want.
 
This might seem like a stupid question to ask but has anyone ever made it out of retail if that's their first job?

I don't really have an impressive resume
given I have a psych degree and that's it...
but...I'm kind of depressed I'll be in retail forever and that's all I can ever go for.

Don't forget about secondary skills and abilities that might otherwise forget to put on a resume. For instance, Linkedin seems to think that 'teamwork' is an actual skill / faculty, despite it not really being one. I'm not suggesting lying or anything, but thinking more positively about your abilities that you might otherwise ignore to put on it.
For instance: forgetting about secondary languages (I did). Or being a agreeable speaker / communicator (see social science study).
 

AAK

Member
I saw this on twitter and this is extremely similar as to how I had to re-invent the way I was searching for jobs last year:

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I applied a lot of what this guy wrote after not hearing back from a plethora of interviews and ALLAH AKBAR I passed the very next interview by preparing a lot of things mentioned above! Hope this helps for a bunch of you who are in the same situation as I was.
 

B4s5C

Member
Also here are some behavioral questions that you may encounter and tips to answer them.

Questions:

Leadership

Describe your problem-solving approach
  • Describe a 3 pronged approach to problem-solving.
  • Ask questions to understand the problem
  • Conduct analysis to research possible solutions
  • Select a path based on the probability of achieving the most beneficial outcome.
  • Provide an example of when you’ve used this approach

If you could choose one thing to do over again, what would you choose and why?
  • Recognize that leaders learn from failures
  • Describe a failure and the impact it had on a team
  • Explain what you learned from the event and how you altered your leadership skills accordingly

Describe a time when you went above and beyond the call of duty
  • Define what you did
  • Detail how it was an unexpected form of leadership
  • Explain the result and what you learned from it

Where do you see yourself in five years?
  • Provide a meaningful, realistic vision
  • Explain how your vision will motivate you to achieve a personal, professional or academic goal
  • Ensure that your example aligns with the firm’s interests as well

Tell me about an accomplishment you are proud of.
  • Select an accomplishment that proved difficult to achieve
  • Explain how you overcame the challenge
  • Describe why you feel proud of this accomplishment

Why should we hire you for this position?
  • Explain why the position interests you
  • Describe what you will bring to this role
  • Offer insight that shows you understand something unique about the company

When have you had competing demands on your time and how did you handle them?
  • Define the time commitments you faced.
  • Detail how you prioritized your time
  • Explain your reasoning for prioritizing your time the way you did.

What personal traits make you stand out for this role?
  • Discuss stories that reveal a track record of success.
  • Use this as an opportunity to highlight strong leadership capabilities

Tell me about yourself.
  • You are a leader: provide a specific example
  • You are a hard worker: talk about your goals and accomplishments
  • You are passionate about the role: express your enthusiasm about the job
  • Pick three leadership examples from your resume and briefly elaborate on them

Whom do you admire and why?
  • Heads Up: The reason is more important than the person
  • Select a person who exemplifies solid leadership
  • Explain how the person leads, learns and teaches
  • Talk about how these skills will be useful for the position to which you are applying

Teamwork

What have you done to build strong teams?
  • Highlight an instance where you led a team to victory
  • Describe the environment before and after you took a leadership role

What type of team allows you to thrive professionally?
  • Talk about how you understand that you’ll be working with a variety of people
  • Stress that you thrive in an environment that rewards both individual and group accomplishments

How have you handled a difficult working relationship?
  • Describe the difficult relationship(Be sure to keep a positive attitude)
  • Explain how you handled the relationship
  • Talk about what you learned from the experience.

What type of work environment do you prefer?
  • Understand the firm’s current work environment
  • Explain why you’ll fit in the company’s culture
  • Detail your successes in similar environments

Fit

How would you describe your ideal job?
  • Understand the responsibilities of the job for which you are interviewing
  • Discuss the aspects of this job that make it ideal for you now
  • Highlight your desire to work within the company’s culture as well as within the specified role

How would your friends describe you?
  • Understand the firm’s corporate culture
  • Provide examples explaining that your friends describe you in ways that match the company’s values
  • Conclude with a personal observation about the company and state that you would be a good fit at the firm

What is your greatest weakness?
  • Talk about a skill you would like to develop
  • Share an example of how you are already working on strengthening this area.

What is your greatest strength?
  • Highlight a proven skill
  • Relate how it is important to the role you are seeking.
  • Be proud, not arrogant
  • Communication

What attracted you to this position?
  • Answer honestly
  • Explain how this position allows you to pursue a personal passion
 
I'm getting really depressed about this. I'm changing careers and my Master's program requires that we complete a 3-6 month internship (if you have a full-time job, you can use that as the internship) before we can graduate. I'm at a satellite campus and the school has no connections here, so I'm basically on my own. The few opportunities the internship coordinator emailed me about I'd already applied for. I interviewed 4 times for one internship and they decided they'd rather have a computer science student (I'm bioinformatics). There are no other internships available in my city that are posted.

I've been applying to jobs every time a new one is posted, but for some reason, there are almost no jobs being posted in my new field. I'm attending networking events but nothing's come from that, either.

I'm on LinkedIn, I belong to groups, have it nicely set up, etc. etc. I've gotten no hits through there either.

At this point, I don't know what else to do. I'm talking to some recruiters regarding positions for what I used to do, but I really want to transition to the field I'm getting my Master's in.

Anyone else been in a similar situation?
 

ampere

Member
Have an interview tomorrow. Already talked to someone at the company at a career fair a few weeks ago so I'm hopeful. Going nuts from not having a job for so long x.x

This might seem like a stupid question to ask but has anyone ever made it out of retail if that's their first job?

I don't really have an impressive resume
given I have a psych degree and that's it...
but...I'm kind of depressed I'll be in retail forever and that's all I can ever go for.

I don't personally have experience in your situation, but perhaps an office admin type job could be something you transition into. There are other types of entry level office jobs too, like data entry and document control. Maybe not the most glamorous positions, but it's not retail so could be an upgrade. You can check Indeed.com or another search site like this example search: http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=office+administrator&l=Georgia

Even if the job wants more experience than you have in that area, I suggest applying anyway. Sometimes they BS the number of years experience they want

At this point, I don't know what else to do. I'm talking to some recruiters regarding positions for what I used to do, but I really want to transition to the field I'm getting my Master's in.

Any chance one of your professors might have a connection that could help you?
 

Makai

Member
Negotiation advice is terrible. All negotiations are different because people are different, so studying negotiation tactics isn't worth much. And they always conflict - "first person to say a number loses!" vs. "say a number first to anchor the conversation." But I think the worst advice out there is the one where everybody is in agreement. Everyone offers strategies for withholding information, but this is antithetical to deal-making! You want all of the information on the table. Just do it in such a way that the other person reveals an equal amount of information. There's a ceiling to what they're willing to pay and a floor to what you're willing to accept. Just act in good faith and find out what their number is. You find out what they're willing to pay by asking them questions about their hiring process. Ask them how many people are being considered. Ask them how quickly they hope to fill the position. Ask them how your skills compare to the other candidates. You can even ask for their number after giving your lower number. There's really no rules here because you can always walk out if you decide you'd like a higher number. If you can't walk out, then you probably shouldn't be negotiating much anyway, lest you go hungry after they rescind their offer because you tried gassing them up.
 
Have an interview tomorrow. Already talked to someone at the company at a career fair a few weeks ago so I'm hopeful. Going nuts from not having a job for so long x.x

Any chance one of your professors might have a connection that could help you?

I feel you on the going nuts part. It's one of the main reasons why I'm considering getting a job in my old field. Good luck with your interview!

Sadly, all of my classes are online (even though the school has a campus here, it's weird) and my professors are all based on the opposite coast. One of them recommended me for an internship there, but I can't just move across the country for a 3-6 month internship. None of them know anyone in Seattle. It's pretty frustrating and I'm really mad at my program right now.
 
I'm getting really depressed about this. I'm changing careers and my Master's program requires that we complete a 3-6 month internship (if you have a full-time job, you can use that as the internship) before we can graduate. I'm at a satellite campus and the school has no connections here, so I'm basically on my own. The few opportunities the internship coordinator emailed me about I'd already applied for. I interviewed 4 times for one internship and they decided they'd rather have a computer science student (I'm bioinformatics). There are no other internships available in my city that are posted.

I've been applying to jobs every time a new one is posted, but for some reason, there are almost no jobs being posted in my new field. I'm attending networking events but nothing's come from that, either.
Sadly, all of my classes are online (even though the school has a campus here, it's weird) and my professors are all based on the opposite coast. One of them recommended me for an internship there, but I can't just move across the country for a 3-6 month internship. None of them know anyone in Seattle. It's pretty frustrating and I'm really mad at my program right now.
I'm guessing you're at Northeastern? (I had a friend that went to one of their "open houses" a few weeks ago and she was almost thinking about joining their coding bootcamp thing.)

It's weird, though. I can find a few postdoc positions (for people with PhDs in bioinformatics or some biological science plus bioinformatics experience), but not much else. Maybe one position at Fred Hutch, UW, and Benaroya. I wonder if companies like Nanostring, Adaptive, etc. have any openings, but I'm kind of surprised it's so sparse. (And this was just in terms of full-time employment.) I was almost thinking about going back to school and pursuing a Master's degree in something CS/bioinformatics-related.

I guess the only thing to do is to e-mail and ask around if there are any opportunities.
 
Had a rarity: an in-person interview! Crazily, only the second one in my 3-months job search (which sucks, I suck on the phone, I'm much better in person). A bad sign: a couple hours after the interview, the job opening is re-posted by one of my interviewers...
 

Quick

Banned
Fairly certain you need to register; I used the Easy Apply feature last year and got an email confirmation for it.

The moment I saw this reply, I checked my email and got a confirmation that Indeed sent it. lol

I applied to 3 job postings today. Fingers crossed.

On that note, I have a few years' worth of administrative experience (both as assistant and lead/head), and my search through Indeed.ca seems to churn out a lot of reception jobs. Is "Administrator" so general a title?

Any tips on how to branch my search out? To be honest, I would like to explore more diverse postings, but I also don't want to get in over my head relative to my job experience.
 

B4s5C

Member
Had a rarity: an in-person interview! Crazily, only the second one in my 3-months job search (which sucks, I suck on the phone, I'm much better in person). A bad sign: a couple hours after the interview, the job opening is re-posted by one of my interviewers...

If the job was posted on a third party website, it is likely an automatic refresh from this HRIS that keeps the position at the top of searches. They will also do that on their own site sometimes but it varies. I wouldn't worry too much about it for the time being. It takes a few days for them to relay your info to others and make decisions based on it.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
I'm getting much more traction now - three phone calls today, a phone interview earlier this week, and a face to face tomorrow. But I've had to really apply for lots of roles to get that - CVs flying everywhere. I think I applied for maybe 100 roles so far this week and the same last week. Everything is blurring into one - a recruiter calls me up and I have no idea who they are or what job I applied for.
 
I'm guessing you're at Northeastern? (I had a friend that went to one of their "open houses" a few weeks ago and she was almost thinking about joining their coding bootcamp thing.)

It's weird, though. I can find a few postdoc positions (for people with PhDs in bioinformatics or some biological science plus bioinformatics experience), but not much else. Maybe one position at Fred Hutch, UW, and Benaroya. I wonder if companies like Nanostring, Adaptive, etc. have any openings, but I'm kind of surprised it's so sparse. (And this was just in terms of full-time employment.) I was almost thinking about going back to school and pursuing a Master's degree in something CS/bioinformatics-related.

I guess the only thing to do is to e-mail and ask around if there are any opportunities.

You guessed it. The content of the program is quite good; I'm confident I have the skills necessary to do well in a bioinformatics job, but actually *finding* a job is the pits. They should have ensured there are internship placements before opening up the program here, but making money is obviously more important to them.

I've applied at all the companies you've mentioned, plus quite a few others. It is surprising how few positions are posted. There were way more when I was investigating whether or not the degree was worth it about a year ago. I don't know what happened. So, the whole "it's a numbers game, just apply to every position you see" doesn't really work in my situation.

If you're still thinking about it, a CS degree would probably be the better choice because a lot of the bioinformatics positions don't require an actual bioinformatics degree; a CS degree would suffice. That would give you the added bonus of being able to apply for actual CS jobs. Are you in Seattle, too?
 
If the job was posted on a third party website, it is likely an automatic refresh from this HRIS that keeps the position at the top of searches. They will also do that on their own site sometimes but it varies. I wouldn't worry too much about it for the time being. It takes a few days for them to relay your info to others and make decisions based on it.
The job posting was personally posted on a message board by the team lead, not an automatic refresh :) My current hope: it's a last minute "Can we find anyone that can amaze us more than this guy we just interviewed" to make sure they cover all bases before hitting the "hire" button.
 
Well I can finally update this...

4/12: Them responding to my application
4/16: Skill assessment test
4/19: Informed test was passed
4/22: Short phone interview in which reference process was initiated
4/25: References all confirmed
5/01: Contacted to setup interview
5/10: Interviewed
5/11: Notified schedule for 2nd interview
5/17: Second interview

5/25: Notified I'm the "prime candidate".

But they're waiting for HR to drag its feet through rest the process, and to expect a call with next steps mid next-week. Then they mentioned something about after negotiation I have to go in for a pre-employment physical and drug test. Which I'm fine with, but for Christ's sake that's going to make the process nearly 2 months.
 
Well I can finally update this...



5/25: Notified I'm the "prime candidate".

But they're waiting for HR to drag its feet through rest the process, and to expect a call with next steps mid next-week. Then they mentioned something about after negotiation I have to go in for a pre-employment physical and drug test. Which I'm fine with, but for Christ's sake that's going to make the process nearly 2 months.

That's honestly ridiculous. Sorry to be rude, but that's a blatant disregard for your consideration and time by this company.
 

link1201

Member
Well I can finally update this...



5/25: Notified I'm the "prime candidate".

But they're waiting for HR to drag its feet through rest the process, and to expect a call with next steps mid next-week. Then they mentioned something about after negotiation I have to go in for a pre-employment physical and drug test. Which I'm fine with, but for Christ's sake that's going to make the process nearly 2 months.

I'm at 1 month and a week with my job that I really want....still in the running or so I am told. lol
 

Meatfist

Member
I've been working part-time for an IT provider this last year, and they recently offered to promote me to full-time. I declined the initial offer due to it being a lateral move when the lack of overtime pay is taken into consideration, and sent them a counter-offer. I was let go without even discussing the offer.

Yay unemployment!
 
Well I can finally update this...



5/25: Notified I'm the "prime candidate".

But they're waiting for HR to drag its feet through rest the process, and to expect a call with next steps mid next-week. Then they mentioned something about after negotiation I have to go in for a pre-employment physical and drug test. Which I'm fine with, but for Christ's sake that's going to make the process nearly 2 months.

Use that time to keep searching. That 2 month wait is bullshit.
 
Use that time to keep searching. That 2 month wait is bullshit.

My current contract is still good for another 45 or so days. So the wait isn't as a huge of an issue as if I were unemployed. And I have offers at other places, but they're for even less than I make now (which is understandable since they're at smaller districts). So I'm not going to jump on those unless I absolutely have to. I've applied plenty of other places but this Hospital job is the one I'm really gunning for. I just think it's nonsense people have to deal with this wait. It's not fair to those who really need a job ASAP.
 

James93

Member
Its seriously nuts. Maybe justified for a senior executive or someone with a security clearance but a huge waste of time for anything else.

Its sadly become the norm for many places. I just can't wrap my head around a two month hiring process, it leaves candidates with a terrible impression.
 
I can't even get a callback interview at a law firm where I took the hiring partner's class and got an A, plus nailed the interview with an associate -- just by trading Afghanistan stories. Plus several other rejections over the past couple weeks. The last promising interview I had, I got silence when I tried to follow up.

The contract gig I lined up keeps slipping its start date, and bureaucratic incompetence has already cost me over $10k.

I can't handle much more of this. I just can't. I am tired of being a (temporary, I hope) failure.
 

nampad

Member
What kind of a raise is realistic to ask for if you are switching the company?
I did not apply for the position, a third party recruiter contacted me.
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
Just flew out to Atlanta yesterday for "Marketing Interview Day" at UPS.

Prior;
1 recruiter phone interview
1 hiring manager phone interview

Interview Day;
3 meet and greet interviews
3 formal interviews
2 lunch "interviews" (They insisted it was not an interview. Yeah BS)
1 recruiter interview
Hogan Assessment (Which I finished 40 minutes before the other 4 candidates and dominated)

Total 11 interviews. And this is round 2 of 3.

All seemed to go well and I got a rejection letter at 7:47am this morning. Guess they made their decision right after I left yesterday. Wtf?

Example:
(Interviewers were not shown my resume beforehand and did not even know what role I was applying for and all worked in different units)

Interviewer: We are releasing a new product line of delivery lockers for package pickup. How would you do this?

Me: I would start by analyzing what our goals are. How much do we want to push this service over existing UPS services, will it compete with them, are there existing competitors in the market? What is the cost/benefit of implementing this program? Then I would determine what the customer needs are in the region. I think customers care most about convenience and safety in a service like this so what locations would best meet those needs? We could analyze past research data of customer surveys and complaints to verify what is most important to customers or perform new research. I would track historical UPS delivery routes in the area to see where traffic is most concentrated and what would be the optimal placement locations for these lockers to reach the most customers in safe locations. Then I would implement a promotional campaign to make customers aware of this new service. Are we targeting large or small scale businesses are we targeting residential consumers, what messages would reach them best?

Interviewer: I'll open it up for questions from you.

Me: What brought you to UPS? Why do you enjoy working here? What is the company culture like? Oh that is great to hear, everyone I have spoken to seems so passionate about working here and I love that, it is important to me to work at a company where people don't see it as just a job and care about their work. blah blah blah.

What do they want from us?! I mean seriously how are those bad answers.
 
All seemed to go well and I got a rejection letter at 7:47am this morning. Guess they made their decision right after I left yesterday. Wtf?

Sorry man. Better than being left hanging in the wind though. Years back I applied for a job at UT - Austin. Had an in person interview on Tuesday and received their rejection letter in the mail on Thursday. Felt like they wanted to rush it out to make everything clear.
 
It's tough out there right now, even in the best places to look for work (like the Dallas/Ft. Worth area).

I've been looking for work for almost 3 weeks, 5-10 applications per day and still haven't received more than 2 interview offers, neither of which were willing to pay nearly what my experience or education are worth. At a certain point I'll have to aim down. =/
 

Veelk

Banned
I need someone to clear up an issue, because I'm confused about something.

I applied to a position through my school's job posting. Having researched the company, this would be a ridiculously good fit. AND! They called me back the next day, which was yesterday. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to pick up the phone at the time. I called back a few hours later, but I hit a voice mail. They didn't call me back. I tried again today, really around 11:30. They may have been going to lunch, but I left another voicemail. Again, no response.

I was advised to keep calling twice a day. That seems like it'd come off as desperate to me, but she assured me that it was the way to do things, persistence until they relent. Is it? Of all the potential jobs I could have, this one really seems ideal and I really want it, but having left 2 voicemails with no reply, I'm afraid it's already slipped through my fingers.
 
I need someone to clear up an issue, because I'm confused about something.

I applied to a position through my school's job posting. Having researched the company, this would be a ridiculously good fit. AND! They called me back the next day, which was yesterday. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to pick up the phone at the time. I called back a few hours later, but I hit a voice mail. They didn't call me back. I tried again today, really around 11:30. They may have been going to lunch, but I left another voicemail. Again, no response.

I was advised to keep calling twice a day. That seems like it'd come off as desperate to me, but she assured me that it was the way to do things, persistence until they relent. Is it? Of all the potential jobs I could have, this one really seems ideal and I really want it, but having left 2 voicemails with no reply, I'm afraid it's already slipped through my fingers.

Naw. Keep trying. If it's a good fit and you want it, it's worth giving it a shot.

There could be many reasons the voice mails aren't returned. You being rejected might be one, but it could be a bunch of other things too.

Good luck!
 
So I'm about to enter the world of freelancing again. Before, I had a few contacts and it was easy - I wrote articles for websites and blurbs on personal sites.

But now, I want to focus on on the digital marketing. I really want to make sure the next location that I work in is a good fit, therefore, I'm going to take my time and really research some places.

What do you guys suggest? Elance? Diving into craigslist?
 
Never mention your current salary, only what you want to earn + say 30% so you can go lower if needed.
Not always avoidable. A lot of places I've applied at have specifically asked for your current salary, sometimes even in the initial application on the website as a required field. I hate that, and when they ask for your salary requirements up front as well, but you just can't avoid it. It's especially dumb because some places I'd be willing to earn less if it turns out it's needed to get the job, but there's no way I'm going to put that lower value up front before salary negotiations.
 

Etzer

Member
Well, I finally got a job.

It's a weird feeling. I mean, I'm very grateful that I have one now, but I'm not all that happy about it because I feel useless throughout the day.

I think I mentioned before in this thread that I'd been doing freelance graphic design and illustration work while job hunting. While I wasn't making thousands of dollars and had some initial difficulty with some clients being too demanding/cheap, I now realize that it was a hell of a lot closer to what I want to work in that what I'm doing now.

I got a part-time job at a car parts shop. I know nothing about cars and I feel like a complete burden to my coworkers; having to interrupt their job by asking them what I assume should be a simple question for someone working at a place like this. They say I'll learn over time, but I can't help but feel out of place here.

Anyway, I can't really complain since a lot of you guys are still seeking any type of employment. I guess I just needed to vent.
 

meowmixer

Neo Member
During rejection don't let other people impact your feeling of self worth. They don't determine your value.

I recall a comedian saying once that after bombing terribly on stage he woke up the next day and realized that nothing was really any different in his life. And then he felt invincible because he realized the only power they had over him was the power he gave them.
 

N.Domixis

Banned
Will They know I use Neogaf if the email I gave them is same as the email for my neogaf account? How deep do the search on background checks?
 
During rejection don't let other people impact your feeling of self worth. They don't determine your value.

I recall a comedian saying once that after bombing terribly on stage he woke up the next day and realized that nothing was really any different in his life. And then he felt invincible because he realized the only power they had over him was the power he gave them.

Yeah I needed to hear this right now, thanks.

Feel like I'm stuck at this dead end retail job, gotta go back to school. Problem is I never quite knew what to study and I basically bullshitted for 2 years.

IT seems the most promising career field to get into nowadays, but I have no experience with it at all.

What degree could I gun for that could have me making a decent living within 2-3 years?
 
Not always avoidable. A lot of places I've applied at have specifically asked for your current salary, sometimes even in the initial application on the website as a required field. I hate that, and when they ask for your salary requirements up front as well, but you just can't avoid it. It's especially dumb because some places I'd be willing to earn less if it turns out it's needed to get the job, but there's no way I'm going to put that lower value up front before salary negotiations.

If you feel under-paid, hedging that current salary is always an option. Even if your employer discloses salary information, and most don't, there are ways around that. If you're salary is $50K, you can say that with bonuses you make another $5k on top and want that reflected.
 
Yeah I needed to hear this right now, thanks.

Feel like I'm stuck at this dead end retail job, gotta go back to school. Problem is I never quite knew what to study and I basically bullshitted for 2 years.

IT seems the most promising career field to get into nowadays, but I have no experience with it at all.

What degree could I gun for that could have me making a decent living within 2-3 years?

If you want to start a career in two years, I recommend enrolling in some kind of healthcare certification program. That's probably the safest field you can go into.
 
Yeah I needed to hear this right now, thanks.

Feel like I'm stuck at this dead end retail job, gotta go back to school. Problem is I never quite knew what to study and I basically bullshitted for 2 years.

IT seems the most promising career field to get into nowadays, but I have no experience with it at all.

What degree could I gun for that could have me making a decent living within 2-3 years?

Experience matters more than a piece of paper. Depending on what your field is most of the time I recommend getting experience from an internship or another way.
 
I've only worked retail, even when I was in school I never branched out into any "proper" experience building jobs.

In that regard I kinda fucked my Present/future self.
 
I've only worked retail, even when I was in school I never branched out into any "proper" experience building jobs.

In that regard I kinda fucked my Present/future self.

You can still find internships, some might require college students only but there are plenty of internships that don't as well. What was the field you went for when in college? Also make sure if you go back to school, like what it is that you're switching to and not just do it for an arbitrary reason.
 
You can still find internships, some might require college students only but there are plenty of internships that don't as well. What was the field you went for when in college? Also make sure if you go back to school, like what it is that you're switching to and not just do it for an arbitrary reason.

Took a bunch of classes but I never nailed down a major, I was leaning towards pursuing a law degree but nothing more concrete than that.
 
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