It's the one thing that's completely stopping me from believing we'll get SQ42 this year or even next year. Sad, but that's how it is.
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It's the one thing that's completely stopping me from believing we'll get SQ42 this year or even next year. Sad, but that's how it is.
Zalusithix
Member
Well SQ42 doesn't have to deal with that whole pesky multiplayer and server aspect. The more variables you pull out, the easier it is to nail things down.
So the Buccaneer is on sale now.
Some pictures:
The second one is a bit misleading as I don't think it has any missiles.
Buccaneer page
Some pictures:
The second one is a bit misleading as I don't think it has any missiles.
Buccaneer page
Yes it is strange they list two size 1 missiles on it yet today on RTV they again said it had no missiles and made up for it with more guns. (in comparison to the Gladius)
*** Make sure to take the quiz on the Bucc page if you plan to buy one or more. You will get to help pick out the free size 4 weapon each ship purchase comes with ($18 value each).
Once they update the extras page I will melt my 350R then upgrade back to it for some LTI and free size 4 gun action.
Very cool ship though. I bought several and will keep 1 for sure. Still debating on if I will keep my Sabre and or Cutlass Blue.
Anton Sugar
Member
True but that doesn't explain the somewhat janky Arma-like movement. I know it will be similar because the principle is the same but I hope they can smooth it out.
It moves and controls pretty similar to your average fps in most instances (barring the fact that crosshairs are related to when the gun is pointing not the center of the screen) especially if you have your gun out. The gunless sprint is weird because your head moves forward, but otherwise there isn't anything too foreign from the control scheme.
What the real issue here is the clipping areas and general geometry issues, which are a lot better offline as those no longer require the server to have a say, along with the inherent jankiness of doing this stuff at 15fps. I suspect that there are also some issues with the general level complexity regarding geometry (which they'll have to limit somehow) like stair bannisters.
I also hope that they remove free jumping and make vaulting contextual.
iHaunter
Member
If only he knew...3.5 years ago...
mercenar1e
Member
just read this and it sounds troubling. i dont think SQ42 will be releasing this year afterall.. add another delay to the long list of delays this game has been through.
Sax Russel
Banned
No one reaaaally believed it would come out this year anyway =P
Aztechnology
Member
I don't want it to release if it would result is an experience less than the expectations they've created. I think their community is generally fine waiting this one out. Also wasting your money on E3 for a game like this which has/will have massive word of mouth coverage regardless of outcome is just silly.
mercenar1e
Member
im surprised that they have absolutely nothing to show at the event.
Zalusithix
Member
They might have something to show, but prefer to not dilute it over the course of multiple events. Who knows, SQ42 is very much a black box. We know it exists, and we know they're doing stuff on it, but virtually all the details are a mystery.
I don't think anybody would be surprised if it slipped past 2016 at any rate. I don't think many of us were confident they'd absolutely hit that date in the first place given what we saw with the Idris intro.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
Wow. Them not being at the PC Gaming Show(when he previously committed) sets off some alarms. I backed the game long ago and frankly there's still no resemblance of a game, just some polished tech demos IMO. Seems like there's issues behind the scenes.
GTFO out of here with this bullshit. The man is allowed a vacation on his birthday.
If SC comes out in 2018, elite would be in what? Anywhere from version 4.x or 5.0 depending on the season it hits.
Probably 4. I think walking is coming sooner rather than later.
BackFromThePast
Banned
Can someone give me a cliff note version on where we are with this game's development, is it coming out this year or was it pushed back? Are people overall still thinking this is a scam or is that sentiment no longer there?
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Considering where the gameplay is, the probable delay isn't surprising.
I think that everybody knew that delay could happen, but i still think they can deliver S42 on December.
I'm personally waiting now for 2.5 and procedural generation
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I'm personally waiting now for 2.5 and procedural generation
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This was never case except for crazy people like Derek Smart, haters or just people that didnt want to learn anything about the project.
mercenar1e
Member
I think that everybody knew that delay could happen, but i still think they can deliver S42 on December.
I'm personally waiting now for 2.5 and procedural generation
that's going to come so far down the line at this point. It would be nice to have some sort of definitive answer as to the status and not have the backers play a guessing game.
the next Star Citizen event is in October. 1 event in 2016 and 5 in 2015.
It was confirmed for 2.5, for one planet to test it and for asteroid fields in the system for mining.
If they don't have an extended trailer and S42 gameplay demos to show around Gamescom, I think we can bury any hopes for a public release of S42 this year. Even that would leave them precious little time to polish up a full scale AAA game for a release at the end of the year, if they aren't already 80-90% done by then.
It was also confirmed that Star Marine was "weeks, not months" away iirc. I wouldn't take "confirmations" from CIG without a bucket of salt. Not to say they won't have "procgen" for "2.5". But there's no guarantee when that hits or if it'll be in a usable state, rather than a very early alpha state, many months or years away from a public "1.0" release.
RubberJohnny
Banned
I expected they wouldn't make 2016, some of the monthly reports said they were still doing concept passes on some S42 locations, and hadn't started actually blocking them out yet, which seemed alarmingly late for something that was supposed to launch this year.
That they'd agreed to do it four weeks ago, and then cancelled two weeks ago imply they were trying to get something ready (and makes sense with what Chris was travelling back and forth to the UK to oversee urgently) but it didn't come together. Kinda crazy that when they started he said a three year development would be ideal, and anything past 2015 would get stale, and now we're talking 2017.
I kind of feel it's a bit like Age of Decadence, old trad rpg revival that took so long to come out that other studios took entire old trad rpg titles like Pillars of Eternity from concept to release, beating them to the punch, and then managed to release whole expansions before they were done. There's suddenly loads of new space games (Infinity, Ion, Everspace, Starfield, Infinite Warfare, Empyrion) and S42 could miss the resurgence it started.
We're still waiting on Vaulting, which was confirmed for 2.3 and 2.4.
That they'd agreed to do it four weeks ago, and then cancelled two weeks ago imply they were trying to get something ready (and makes sense with what Chris was travelling back and forth to the UK to oversee urgently) but it didn't come together. Kinda crazy that when they started he said a three year development would be ideal, and anything past 2015 would get stale, and now we're talking 2017.
I kind of feel it's a bit like Age of Decadence, old trad rpg revival that took so long to come out that other studios took entire old trad rpg titles like Pillars of Eternity from concept to release, beating them to the punch, and then managed to release whole expansions before they were done. There's suddenly loads of new space games (Infinity, Ion, Everspace, Starfield, Infinite Warfare, Empyrion) and S42 could miss the resurgence it started.
We're still waiting on Vaulting, which was confirmed for 2.3 and 2.4.
We already talked about Star Marine, they dont want to do another separate mode, just because, they prefer to focus on baby PU as a whole, then on things like racing or arena commander.
Of course procedural generation will be in alpha state, thats why they will put it this early, thats whole point.
And it will be in alpha. Pre-alpha is something like this:
https://youtu.be/fDzAmjYncQk?t=3305
Very reasonable sentiments. But how they handled the communication on that was... poor. Keeping up the facade of the mode being practically right around the corner up until they're asked about it and then tell people that all the functionality is/will be present in the game, but the specific previously promised mode has been canceled - as reasonable as the cancelation may have been - is poor form. It does not lend credibility to any other promises they may make. After all, any other of their promises may be affected by unforeseen circumstances just as well. Technical blockers, re-priorization of tasks and according re-distribution of budget.
BackFromThePast
Banned
So 2017 then???
Zalusithix
Member
For Star Citizen or Squadron 42? SQ42 will most likely be out in 2017 if it misses the 2016 date. Star Citizen... not so much, and there's no real target for it. I can't even begin to estimate as there's just so many components that aren't in place yet, and I have no idea what exactly will be flagged as necessary for a SC 1.0 and what will be allowed to be introduced later on.
staticneuron
Member
Except they did release the Star Citizen Alpha at end of 2015 as promised which contained the shooter elements you can try out in the security station. There simply isn't matchmaking and it wasn't communicated poorly, it was communicated in one of the many community focus videos and release articles. Specifically 10 for the chairman 75 in addition to what was stated before Chris stated.
The only way you really would have not heard is simply by not listening, watching or reading the numerous sources of information they put out on their main page.
And to use Star marine as example while ignoring the much larger and more complicated PU element as a target to hit simply makes it seem like you are trying to weekly poke holes in their efforts to release this title. And them missing Star marine in Favor of releasing the PU is something most,if not all, of the reasonable backers would have preferred.
Do you have links to the monthly reports in question? I am curious because S42 is also supposed to be in 3 episodes and they didn't hammer down the breaks in the episodes yet. So another question would be if true, would be what episode are they working on or how they are breaking these apart.
mercenar1e
Member
ill just post whats on the Star Citizen site lol
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game/community
Delayed Again?
Pls.
This is the internet and all, so you should add a disclaimer: "written and directed by the hand of crazy". Just yesterday in the Steam thread somebody used this as a serious statement.
I mean, don't you believe this thing? It's obviously true! I'm really getting tired of Roberts cruising around in his 45th sportscar, drinking a $100k bottle of water, eating $30 Italian meals, clapping after each git commit he made, while his employees work 18 hours a day and don't even make the needed minimum wage of $15. This thing has been a scam from the beginning and I'm glad we got Derek Smart to sort it all out for us.
Obvious sarcasm. In all honesty, we knew it would take long. I fully expected slow development and maybe it's right that they are setting the bar too high. But to think it's deliberate scam or that the people working on it are incompetent is just not true. I think all the money they can use is spent on the development of the game and working on such new techs is time consuming and frustrating. Maybe things would have gone smoother with another engine, but maybe they wouldn't have.
BRB applying for vice chief backer-fracker
Zalusithix
Member
Pretty much. A lot is riding on SQ42.
It doesn't need to be perfect, but it certainly needs to have a level of polish that CIG hasn't yet demonstrated to the public. Something that they can point to and say "Yep, we can do that whole game thing well enough when not having to deal with the massive complexity that is SC". While it wouldn't guarantee that they can tame the beast that is SC, it'd go a long way to providing counters to many of the traditional critic complaints. If they botch the release though... It wont be pretty. The naysayers will have tons of ammunition, and frankly a lot of it will be legitimate.
Chris Roberts is a known perfectionist, so the only way that happens is if CIG does indeed start running out of money and is forced to rush S42 to the door. Further delays on S42, while unfortunate and annoying, really aren't that big of an issue. All Chris has to do is state the reasons, explain the situation, and pair the delay announcement with a sensational teaser / trailer. I know I'd be okay with it, at least.
Zalusithix
Member
I'd like to think that it wont happen, and I certainly hope that's the case, but I'm cognizant of the possibility that it could for one reason or another. That said, delays (within reason) don't bother me either, but there's an limit to how far they can stall SQ42. Both from a financial standpoint and a mindshare / public perception perspective. It's a balancing act. Releasing an unpolished buggy mess of a game would be extremely damaging. Pushing SQ42 back to say... 2018 would be nearly as bad - albeit for different reasons.
I will believe that depending on what we see at Gamescom. I could see them releasing the intro mission as a tease of what's to come, but that really all comes down to if they can manage to perfect the flight model and FPS mechanics before the end of the year. Which I hope will happen, but very much doubt.
Pls.
Well at least the Idris will be hangar-ready eventually, sheesh
Zalusithix
Member
It takes time to expand the hangars that much!
They just keep making the Idris bigger. It'll be a supercarrier-dreadnought hybrid by the end of that timeline.