As I showed in a earlier comment.
This is clearly wrong.
Phil doesn't seem interested in small upgrades, not to mention having two different upgrades is just more work for devs; it's better to just have on large one.
Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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As I showed in a earlier comment.
This is clearly wrong.
Phil doesn't seem interested in small upgrades, not to mention having two different upgrades is just more work for devs; it's better to just have on large one.
MilkyJoe
Member
It's probably more than obvious I am referring to the tech rather than the actual "it's out already"
I googled it and find nothing.. not sure where those rumours came from and honestly, if it's only going to be as powerful as the base ps4 when they're coming out with a neo it should probably just be cancelled lol.
InquisitorAles
Member
It's just creative chatter, relax
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
As I showed in a earlier comment.
This is clearly wrong.
Phil doesn't seem interested in small upgrades, not to mention having two different upgrades is just more work for devs; it's better to just have on large one.
Haha, oh my. This thread bonkers.
I know right. Xbox generating this much interest has to be an anomaly of some sort..
/s
What if it also ran PC-versions of certain 'certified' games? Strong enough and compatible with Oculus and Microsoft Holographic platform.
It would also enable VR options on 'XBOX-one' games? It would be a game-pc in a ...box, converging both worlds like Microsoft's late strategy depicts..
It would also enable VR options on 'XBOX-one' games? It would be a game-pc in a ...box, converging both worlds like Microsoft's late strategy depicts..
jeff_rigby
Banned
So a XB1 slim isn't going to be announced at E3 along with the STB and Dongle as rumored? I have a problem with the rumor unless the CE industry is also announcing Vidipath and UHD Blu-ray digital bridge. Until then the dongle is only usable within the Microsoft ecosystem, after they are usable with Cable TV Vidipath DVRs, UHD Blu-ray digital bridge servers and DVRs with ATSC 1 & 3 Vidipath tuners soon following.As I showed in a earlier comment.
This is clearly wrong.
Phil doesn't seem interested in small upgrades, not to mention having two different upgrades is just more work for devs; it's better to just have on large one.
-ImaginaryInsider
Member
PSVR is not out yet.
Neo is launching around the same time.
Sony will likely market the Neo and it's enhanced versions hand in hand with the PSVR from effectively the beginning of it's life till the end of this generation.
"Enhanced VR" is a selling point, especially when it's likely Sony will market it as the defacto experience.
wapplew
Member
Just make Xbox a MS brand PC already. $399 HTPC with 6TF graphic, 8GB ram, 2T hdd and 4K bluray drive will sell like hotcake!
MilkyJoe
Member
No shit but pre-orders are. Jesus wept...
Well they need to sell it without throwing vanilla PS4 VR under the bus. Let's see how they do that.
Quite this, yes. If drives agree cheap to get, put it in. Otherwise uhd bluray is not necessary, it's a niche product.
John Wick
Member
So what your saying is that the PS4K version will just be a more prettier/better framerate version of the PS4 version?
But the Scorpio will have what? Eh? Exactly the same. Just like PC Hardware scales the game between GPU/CPU so will the Scorpio and X1. Or do you think developers are gonna waste their time and more importantly money on making a special Scorpio version??? Which will be totally different to the PS4 and PC version????
anothertech
Member
LOL this thread!
So the Slim is going to be 10tf by tomorrow afternoon apparently, and the Scorpio 20tf with HBM2 going for $399 this coming spring! Creative chatter guys!
Hold on to your butts!
yeah, with windows 10 already on it, it doesn't sound like there is much more for them to do to actually make this happen. They've never been good at branding, but XBOX department can pull this off i'm sure
Aceofspades
Banned
By tomorrow, Scorpio will solve world's hungar...rejoice people 
This is basically a console. yes.
Uhhh Phil's statement doesn't stop a slim, but it isn't going to have upgraded hardware over the normal Xbox One.
Sooo...
By tomorrow, Scorpio will solve world's hungar...rejoice people
It would be hilarious if the only announcement at E3 from MS in relation to hardware was a slim model.
What a let down that would be
What's with all the concern post/exaggerations/trolling this morning?
Microsoft aren't opening up competition to the Windows store on their devices. It will still be locked down.
I think the most interesting thing will be games across Xbox One, Scorpio and PC. Will there be exclusives, vastly different versions other than graphic tweaks. Microsoft is all in with BC no doubt but I could see them doing exclusives or different versions of games for Scorpio that go beyond just bells and whistles. 3rd party won't dump Xbox One and Microsoft will still release games for it but think there will be new games/features that will only be on Scorpio/PC.
6TF Console. more than 8GB of RAM ? They'll put that to work on new stuff.
While the Scorpio apparently is bringing VR to Xbox, I remain curious to see as to how they are going to make that work in their favour just yet.
Are Microsoft's first party teams going to be bringing in a lot of VR content themselves or does everyone think that PC VR games will all see ports to Scorpio? Will it just run PC software natively?
All of that is pretty much up in the air.
Hell, the price delta between OR and PSVR is currently so big that i'd have to think that Xbox has to have something to sweeten the deal in terms of VR. Because I can't see console gamers picking up the console with a headset that costs 699 over the one that is 399. I think a 300 savings is a pretty attractive selling point in itself.
Sure they could be going for PC/Xbox cross-pollination with Oculus Rift, but I don't think that's a very large market. Plus, i'm not seeing too many reasons as to why a high-end PC VR user would be tempted to buy a 399$ box just because their headset is supported.
A lot of exclusive games might convince these people but that can't be conjured up out of thin air. It's not like Microsoft has a huge stable of first-party teams just twiddling their thumbs right now.
-ImaginaryInsider
Member
When they go to pick up those preorders on day one, they will likely see a shiny enhanced Neo version running at their local GameStop from beginning of the PSVR's life.
Neo will likely play as a big a part at PSVR's launch as the vanilla PS4.
How is a vanilla Xbox One going to look next to Scorpio? Both the Neo and the Scorpio are going to have to walk that tight rope.
Bitch Pudding
Member
It would be hilarious if the only announcement at E3 from MS in relation to hardware was a slim model.
What a let down that would be
Nah, I think it would be a really huge surprise if they even mention Scorpio at some point, let alone announce it. All those with reasonable expectations will not be disappointed. Only those who think it's totally reasonable MS will show a 50% faster console at the very same time and price of a PS4 Neo. But it seems those are lost souls anyhow :>.
You seem to be forgetting one very important fact, just because they are announced at the same event doesn't mean that they release at the same time.
They could both be announced at E3 with one releasing Holiday 2016 and the other Spring 2017.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Yeah that would never ever happen, there couldnt be a situation ever arising like that *cough PS4 and Xbox One cough*
No siree, could never happen.....
Imagine they do though, you have to admit - it would be pretty funny
I don't think VR is going to be that popular initially or never and move the needle for either platform. Microsoft are staying in the game which is wise for them instead of turning up late. It's still an ecosystem war and staying relevant which both new consoles hope to succeed in. VR is possibly the next big thing but for the masses it's an expensive blip and unlikely to sway them one way or another.
I feel the same. It just makes no sense to me to announce a new slim version of your console only to say it's basically pointless to buy it because we have a better thing coming a few months later. I know there's pressure to reveal it, but if it truly is coming in 2017 and they officially announce it then why would you buy the old console.
By tomorrow, Scorpio will solve world's hungar...rejoice people
Well, given that Sony is always better, what will ps4k be able to do?
Backfoggen
Banned
Sony is a hardware company though. MS doesn't have the knowledge to make the flops be a lot.Yeah that would never ever happen, there couldnt be a situation ever arising like that *cough PS4 and Xbox One cough*
No siree, could never happen.....
Imagine they do though, you have to admit - it would be pretty funny
SlipperyFishes
Banned
The Surface Team - don't put it past them.
What?
Backfoggen
Banned
It was a gag post.
A $200 customer is not the same as a $400 customer.
As for announcing this early, you don't want to unsettle people around the biggest shopping period at the end of the year even if my first point still stands, that sudden unveiling wouldn't get the time for sanity to prevail. Microsoft announcing early, no other way to make possible future Neo owners to think twice, reassures the Xbox platform is going nowhere and also the previous point applies to Xbox too.
Bits N Pieces
Member
But they have to? Surely? Assuming it's for release in Q1 2017, if they don't say anything about it now, then that gives Sony & Neo a HUGE advantage.
They can stop people from purchasing the Neo if they announce Scorpio at this E3 but claim it will release in Q1 2017. I'll certainly wait 3 or 4 months for Scorpio over Neo.
However, if it's due to release Q4 2017 then they are best saying nothing.
MilkyJoe
Member
And when they ask the store guy why should I get this Neo over the PS4 that this already works with, what is he going to say?
Bitch Pudding
Member
Yeah that would never ever happen, there couldnt be a situation ever arising like that *cough PS4 and Xbox One cough*
No siree, could never happen.....
Imagine they do though, you have to admit - it would be pretty funny
Come on now, you know damn well why XBOX One was so expensive at the start. Neither Sony nor MS will do such a mistake ever again.
How come people think that Sony and MS "have to" announce anything right now? All those rumors surely don't force their hands.
wapplew
Member
It's like Surface RT vs Surface pro, open it up, people will line up!
totallydied
Neo Member
Sorry for the late reply,
Certainly though, I see your point and the very contradictions in my own behaviour, however in the case of Xbox its not just the upgrade that irritates me as I can like with the Neo forgo it but the fact that I can get the same experience (exclusive games and features) on another platform, which to me screams a waste of money and as such why I stated the news surrounding the release of the Scorpio has entirely put me off.
If to you thats not an issue, I understand, but to me thats a major concern and why the news about the Xbox and Scorpio over the last couple of months has undoubtedly turn me off to the platform.
Well, assuming Neo is a real thing releasing this year as widely reported from multiple sources. That's why they have to. Of course, if Neo isn't real which I think would shock the whole gaming industry then no one needs to announce anything.
But there's no smoke without fire....
Bitch Pudding
Member
We have rumors stating fall 2016 as well as spring 2017. Nintendo deemed E3 2016 too early to present spring 2017 console NX. Sony might as well show Neo during TGS in September. We btw already know that PS4 games can have a Neo mode starting 5 days afters TGS, which may or may not be a coincidence.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Take Kinect out of the Xbox One launch pack and you have a $399 console, same price the PS4 launched at and one of those consoles is quite a bit more powerful than the other, so my point stands.
It can happen
Bitch Pudding
Member
It can happen
I'll eat that crow without hesitation should Sony screw up Neo launch big time like MS did back then. I just can't see that happening.
wapplew
Member
Take Kinect out of the Xbox One launch pack and you have a $399 console, same price the PS4 launched at and one of those consoles is quite a bit more powerful than the other, so my point stands.
It can happen
Watch Kinect coming back to be main tracking device for Rift.
MilkyJoe
Member
Take Kinect out of the Xbox One launch pack and you have a $399 console, same price the PS4 launched at and one of those consoles is quite a bit more powerful than the other, so my point stands.
It can happen
Take the kinect out and you have a sub £299 console. The Kinect cost almost as much as the console to manufacture, if memory serves.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Take Kinect out of the Xbox One launch pack and you have a $399 console, same price the PS4 launched at and one of those consoles is quite a bit more powerful than the other, so my point stands.
It can happen
Kinect at launch actually was costs of $150. Without it they'd have launched at $350 vs. $400 with the weaker condole.
knight_spg
Neo Member
Knowing game stores (who love money, and deceiving customers), 100% of the clerks will have a directive from store managers that they tell customers that Neo is required or at least highly recommended... they could sell a lot.
No but we will still have people taking this quote to show that devs are lazy because they didn't code to the metal meaning a game performs worse than it should. Typical arm chair developers.