Hylianhero777
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EDIT: Upon reflection it's not my place to tell others how to grieve. Sorry if I made anyone upset, and I hope everyone stays safe today. This is a tragedy that is impossible to put into words.
Mass shooting at Orlando gay nightclub [50 dead, 53 injured]
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EDIT: Upon reflection it's not my place to tell others how to grieve. Sorry if I made anyone upset, and I hope everyone stays safe today. This is a tragedy that is impossible to put into words.
Hcoregamer00
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What a horrible act of terrorism.
Whether it is religious extremism to not, it is terrorism because terrorism is meant to scare people and change our laws and daily lives. I pray for those who got killed in such a terrible way, this is unforgivable.
Edit: this thread is so political, ugh. I forgot how much I hate this echo chamber :/
Whether it is religious extremism to not, it is terrorism because terrorism is meant to scare people and change our laws and daily lives. I pray for those who got killed in such a terrible way, this is unforgivable.
Edit: this thread is so political, ugh. I forgot how much I hate this echo chamber :/
The former
You are getting a lot of people posting about gun definitions because everyone is getting it wrong bar a few. So don't criticize them for correcting 200 other incorrect posters, who are making things harder to understand.
An "AR-15" isn't some magic only for the military ffs. And 99% likely to be semi automatic like every other sporting or what-have-you rifle out there.
An "AR-15" isn't some magic only for the military ffs. And 99% likely to be semi automatic like every other sporting or what-have-you rifle out there.
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Palette Swap
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I despise Islamic terrorism but where were you when 5,000 other people died this year? What turning point were you hoping about back then?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Heartbreaking, my prayers goes to all family members
I know. I agree with you. I want stricter gun laws. I'm just saying I'm not BLAMING the guns for what happened.
The idea that it's "difficult" to do is ridiculous.
When someone has time, money, and doesn't care about the consequences, the cost doesn't matter.
ClosingADoor
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Right to bear arms != Right to bear all arms and carry them everywhere.
Keep your sidearm at home for protection, not in the streets. That's really all you should need. Anything larger needs to be locked away at the gun club or wherever you go shooting.
bucknuticus
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It's stuff like this that will give trump a platform and a shot in the election.
Milly Osworth
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Guns and whatever motive he had.
It stands for ArmaLite Rifle. IE the company that invented it.
It is hard for someone without access to a machine shop, certainly. None of the aftermarket parts you speak of do anything to modify an AR to full auto though.
Not true, the AR15 receiver is not milled out deep enough to install an M-16 fire control group.
Yep, this whole thing is already taking shape.
"Muslims are bad" vs "Guns are bad"
Targeted mass murder of a minority group? Eh, maybe we'll look into that sometime down the road. Homophobia and it's roots in our culture isn't exactly a hot topic right now.
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The difference between France and the US is that in France the shooting was a one in who knows how many years event. In the US, it's a daily occurrence.
Show me 1 case of a semi-automatic AR-15 having been converted to fully automatic and used in a crime.
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i know it is a realistic solution because its worked in both the UK and Australia, mass shootings are a non event since. Which country do you live in?
The Lamonster
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This is terrible
I understand that, the reason he probably used it is because of the magazine capacity being higher than said hunting rifles. As far as power, there are more powerful hunting rifles out there than AR-15's.
The opposite is that 50 people just lost their freedom forever. Congrats, I guess. Was it worth it?
meanspartan
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It is, Armalite invented it in 1959, and it was later adapted into an automatic version for the military, known as the famous M16.
Given that most people (reasonably) think the "AR" in AR 15 means "Assault Rifle", I'm shocked the usually savvy gun industry hasnt made a rebranding effort.
That's not even right. It was done because the British were going to seize the power stocks at Lexington and Concord, rending the colonial militia inert.
The Second Amendment is about states arming themselves. It was created in a time when the understanding in was any able bodied man would be mustered to the militia to protect the community. They needed arms to do so.
There's nothing in there about some yolkel being able to get a gun for opening a checking account. FFS Tombstone, Arizona didn't allow weapons within the city limits back in 1800s. The current interpretation of the second amendment is a modern interpretation.
Suppose that happens. All the muslim terrorists are stopped. That leaves just an average of about 1 mass shooting every day in the United States, just like if you count Muslim terrorist shootings.
Anyways I think both sides of the argument need to shut the fuck up and neogaf needs a new rule where gun politics talk is banned from casualty event threads because this shit is becoming borderline desecration. Its totally jarring that these things happen and just become another shitshow thread about gun control politics. Every time.
dragonfart28
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50 people?
Well at least it's an improvement over France.
Thankfully these events don't happen that often.
Well at least it's an improvement over France.
Thankfully these events don't happen that often.
I'm not seeing topics for every single shooting or bombing happening in Africa, Asia, Middle-East, etc. so I'm guessing that means you're just disrespectful of them too, right ? Or is it because at some point it stops being "news" and it's just "another day" ?
You're free to feel like I'm being disrespectful all you want. I'm gay and trust me a hate crime killing 50 people of my "community" in a way is shaking me up all right.
Audioboxer
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50 lives now...? jesus
It might even climb higher. Hope those injured stand a chance as the excellent hospital staff try to work their magic.
What the fuck
Violence Jack
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Just waking up to this news. 50 innocent lives lost. I'm sure there's already there's already several people out there who think that having more people be armed inside that club would solve this.
My heart hurts for the families of those who lost their lives because of this coward. Stricter background checks, gun registration, any type of gun control aside from an outright ban should be legislated for, but likely one side will sit there blaming the other instead of working together to prevent horrifying events like this from happening in the future.
RIP and prayers to the familes.
My heart hurts for the families of those who lost their lives because of this coward. Stricter background checks, gun registration, any type of gun control aside from an outright ban should be legislated for, but likely one side will sit there blaming the other instead of working together to prevent horrifying events like this from happening in the future.
RIP and prayers to the familes.
therealist
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The supreme court interpreted it differently.
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From the perspective of someone coming from a place where guns are simply out rightly banned and illegal, this "it's not fully automatic guys" thing that pops up in every shooting thread here just boggles my mind.
A gun is a gun.
SomedayTheFire
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Has there been any confirmation that the shooter has anything to do with the religion of Islam or are people just assuming because he doesn't have a "White" name?
What the fuck is the point of you arguing this? Its insensitive, annoying, and has derailed the thread enough. Jesus.
DragonSworne
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This can happen anywhere so let's make it super easy and commonplace to happen in America.
How is that even logical?
NHarmonic.
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This gun mentality is ingrained, that's why this shit keeps happening and nobody bats an eye in the places of power where change could come.
This is a sick and sad affair, and people here defending their guns and deflecting the problem kinda make me lose hope in humanity.
Arrogant Bastard
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It won't happen, Sandy Hook didn't change anything and this won't either. Sandy Hook was the moment that would have done it and it didn't amount to anything. People that have a gun fetish are safe, it isn't gonna change.
And? SCOTUS has interpreted numerous things one way or another doesn't stop people from pushing for change. Look at abortion rights. Wait till Clinton wins and we get to replace Thomas.
Exactly.
Is the gun powerful, and lets you shoot bullets in rapid succession? It's an assault rifle. A rifle designed for assault. I don't want pedantic "well, technically" definitions.
Also, if it's trivial to modify it to be fully-automatic, then maybe it shouldn't be for sale.
Out of curiosity where do you live?
I derailed the thread? I rightly corrected people saying this is an assault rifle, you go off on a node how easy it is to convert.
Believe me, I'm as outraged and sad this has happened as you are, but if people are willing to talk gun laws then I'm willing to correct them when they're wrong.
drotahorror
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I can't believe over 100 people were shot by 1 person. It's just mindblowing. So scary the world we live in today.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
NYPD?
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