Yeah, the international videos are pretty shitty.
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Pokémon Sun & Moon | Info and speculation thread
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Yeah, the international videos are pretty shitty.
Not75Drops
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Yeah, the international trailers did that for XY as well, just overlaying the XY main theme with the gameplay for some reason.
They've likely been designed since XY's release, along with the unused moves. Might as well put them in the new game, especially with the anime hyping them up. I thought that they would be anime only for a while but I still think that "Z" or whatever must have been at least planned at one point. At least we don't need a 3rd version to get the forms.
They've likely been designed since XY's release, along with the unused moves. Might as well put them in the new game, especially with the anime hyping them up. I thought that they would be anime only for a while but I still think that "Z" or whatever must have been at least planned at one point. At least we don't need a 3rd version to get the forms.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I know we might get more at E3, but the fact we only got two Pokemon this issue sort of makes me wonder if we're looking at another tiny Generation.
Like the issue for Generation V around this time had, like, 10 or so Pokemon in it I think? There was one with Minccino, Pidove, Sandile, Klink, Darmanitan, and Blitzle and then shortly after we got a trailer on Pokemon Sunday showing like five more or so.
Though I don't think a small Generation is necessarily a bad thing, though I hope it's slightly bigger than Generation VI. I don't need 150, but can we get 100 at the very least?
Like the issue for Generation V around this time had, like, 10 or so Pokemon in it I think? There was one with Minccino, Pidove, Sandile, Klink, Darmanitan, and Blitzle and then shortly after we got a trailer on Pokemon Sunday showing like five more or so.
Though I don't think a small Generation is necessarily a bad thing, though I hope it's slightly bigger than Generation VI. I don't need 150, but can we get 100 at the very least?
UnemployedVillain
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You're reading way too much into this. The speed of information revealed implies nothing at all
Aaronrules380
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Could just as easily be because of E3 revealing more
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Agreed.
Yeah if Nintendo is going to showcase SM next to Zelda.
Exterminieren
Banned
...Or they're changing up their strategy because they got burnt by revealing too much in the run up to X and Y and ORAS. It's worth bearing in mind that we're still further out from Sun and Moon than we were for Black and White at this point- Sun and Moon are releasing in November, whereas Black and White came out in September.
Also, might be wise to wait until we've had the E3 footage and info- remember Black and White made no appearance at E3 2010.
Yeah gonna have to go with Extermi here, if pre-release info dictated how many Pokemon were present in the game, X/Y would have been friggin' bustling with new guys instead showing off half of what they had to offer. Hoping it's at least as big as Gen II also
We got a "small" amount of new pokemon in gen6 because a lot of work was put into creating and animating more than 600 pokémon, that was very time consuming. This time around all that time and effort can be invested into more new pokémon and improving the game a lot.
Sounds like generic cartoon music
DragonKnight
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Hopefully.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
Before Black and White, any given hardware generation would see only around 100+ new Pokemon. I think that the smaller number of Pokemon in X/Y is just Game Freak slowing things the fuck down and keeping the overall Pokemon count from becoming too bloated to bear, because they were cognizant from the beginning that there'd be two gens on 3DS hardware this time around. And so Sun and Moon will probably also have around 70 new mons, that's about what I'm expecting anyway. And I'm fine with that as long as there's also shitloads of Pokemon available for capture in general, like in X/Y.
Not75Drops
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I think Gen V had the shortest time between reveal and release. That and the high amount of new pokemon, which seemed like a homage to Gen I, meant that a lot was revealed in a short amount of time, while having tons to hide.
You're talking about things getting too bloated and then talking about the most bloated Pokemon game in the series like "??????????"
There was so much "old" in X/Y that it was hard to appreciate anything that actually was new. Thinking about it, I'm not even sure half my party was from Gen VI and I try to make it a point to only use new mons.
New generations are always directed by Masuda, this one is no exception.
The12thGripper
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shame
Not75Drops
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That doesn't mean it's exactly set in stone. Morimoto wasn't credited at all in or ORAS (as well as Tembo), which was the first main game he was missing from. That doesn't make a lot sense unless he was working on something big. Up until now, he's only directed remakes.
Masuda has also been abroad a lot in the last few months, which you wouldn't expect someone to do until at least from E3 onwards.
Saying that, Masuda also hasn't directed in a while either, although he's also a producer. I'm fine either way as long as the game is good.
Edit: Looks like Ohmori will be at E3 as well
https://twitter.com/Shigeru_Ohmori/status/742069907811012608?s=09
ORAS was given to a brand new director and Morimoto was missing completely.
All signs point to someone getting their first shot at directing a new gen (morimoto would be first in line) or they're planning to add another game than the usual cycle at the very least. Or somebody got fired/demoted or left I guess
My dream scenario is Morimoto doing Sun/Moon and Unno doing Sun 2/Moon 2 all for Masuda to be very hard at work ensuring that nx Pokemon is the glorious HD experience we all need it to be....damnit Masuda don't fail me!
There's no panel this year, only for Go right? Man that was cool. HD noivern
Not75Drops
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There was also the guy who directed Platinum, but he's never directed since.
We need him.
Man, I so want this to return to pre-Gen VI heights. The music so far doesn't make me feel good though.
Honestly I really hope that Game Freak doesn't waste gen 7 to tell Zygarde's story when it should have been told in gen 6 with gen 7 being a fresh start.
Because Pokémon company international is shit.
I am just wondering if Game Freak will even do a "Sun 2/Moon 2" version since they were clearly happy in skipping "Pokémon Z".
Because Pokémon company international is shit.
I am just wondering if Game Freak will even do a "Sun 2/Moon 2" version since they were clearly happy in skipping "Pokémon Z".
Neoleo2143
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I too suspect Morimoto as the Director of this game with Masuda being Producer and Battle theme Composer like usual. Ichinose is probably a composer and is probably arranging most of Masuda's tracks as well, as much I wish Masuda would do it himself.
Well we don't know when "Mobile NX" is happening and this is somewhat similar to the pattern of what happened with Gen V.
Also something to note is that Alola is only half of Hawaii since four islands are not present, something that could be expanded on similar to Unova's expansion in B2W2.
What if it's tied into a larger story that's spans more than one generation? There are some theories out there that if they were even close to being what the game's story is about (or at least part of it), then it would be worth it to have Zygarde's story finished up.
ColtraineGF
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I only see Masuda as the director for Platinum.
And Morimoto, aside from directing Emerald and HGSS, is probably working hard as the battle director again, since this is the start of a new gen (and a new competitive season).
And Morimoto, aside from directing Emerald and HGSS, is probably working hard as the battle director again, since this is the start of a new gen (and a new competitive season).
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Not necessary since they could do that in Kalos as Post-Contents, like they did with Kanto for Pokemon Gold and Silver. It would be awesome to collect 16 badges again in different regions.
Not75Drops
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Bulbapedia is wrong, I made that mistake before. If you look up the credits, on youtube it's actually someone else. I think his name is Takeshi Kawachimaru.
BuggyDClown
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So whats the chances on new eeveelutions?
We skipped having them in Gen III and Gen V.
Id love two see at least one more.
My real wish though would be to have thurd stages for all the current ones and make them more competetive.
Maybe we can get a Steel and Ground or I love the idea of a Normal type but its evolution would be tricky with umbreon and espeon.
We skipped having them in Gen III and Gen V.
Id love two see at least one more.
My real wish though would be to have thurd stages for all the current ones and make them more competetive.
Maybe we can get a Steel and Ground or I love the idea of a Normal type but its evolution would be tricky with umbreon and espeon.
True, I just don't want another rushed generation as I never felt gen 6 got a chance to shine.
Well I am going to wait and see till I have the game in my hands but Zygarde is on the bottom on my list of things to care about as I want to see the new gen 7 Pokémon, soak in the gen 7 lore and enjoy gen 7 story.
I am actually expecting Shauna to be in the game as she mentions that she's going to a new region at the end of X and Y.
Johto suffered from Kanto being in the game with it's routes being short and compressed and dreadful level curve.
Exploring a mini region is better than a whole region.
Man, I'm actually worried about the music after watching those Zygarde vids. I know it's just the wild battle theme, but it sounds all over the place. I was scared about the music being too happy thematically overall ever since the Aloha region was revealed as a Hawaii-based, summer vacation-like setting.
I thought the music from X/Y was great and high-quality with electric guitars and all that, but OR/AS sounded like a step down quality-wise aside from a few tracks. This music from the clip sounds more like the lazier OR/AS sound.
I thought the music from X/Y was great and high-quality with electric guitars and all that, but OR/AS sounded like a step down quality-wise aside from a few tracks. This music from the clip sounds more like the lazier OR/AS sound.
ColtraineGF
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Dang it, my fault >_<
And I actually watched the credits for each game the other day to verify my list of designers was correct...
chaobreaker
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ORAS soundtrack is IMO one of the best in the series but I can see why you would have that opinion. It's hard to make some rearrangements of music made for the GBA sound as lively as XY's soundtrack.
All I can say is hope for a rip of the battle theme that isn't from a low quality phone video in a crowded video.
MegaManTrigger
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Which is a completely fixable issue. I don't think it's fair to say exploring a mini-region is better than a full region considering GSC faced issues such as having limited memory on the cartridge, limited distribution of Pokemon available to fix the level curve. HGSS fixed some of the issues but didn't exactly change the level curve issue amongst other problems (maybe as some sick and twisted notion on sticking to traditions). It's been years since the last attempt, and I think that if today's GF did a two-region game with today's technology and new development philosophy compared to the old times, it would probably be amazing.
Exactly my thoughts. I don't understand people who say XY had a bad soundtrack. I'm not too impressed by the Sun/Moon soundtrack, battle music and main theme.
Well there are official videos on youtube already with crystal clear sound.
But in hindsight it ultimately screwed over Johto and gave us a hollowed on Kanto in exchange. A lot of Gen 2's problems (like screwed up level curve and pokemon distribution) are either caused or exacerbated by the dual region setup.
I much prefer Gamefreak focus on one region, especially since their last few efforts haven't been all that great.
Major exaggeration considering everyone loves gold and silver except the most Pokemoniest critics
chaobreaker
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Got a link?
Aaronrules380
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nostalgia is one hell of a drug
MegaManTrigger
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I agree. People who say that it would be like what happened in GSC are forgetting how much hardware constraints developers had to deal with at the time for the vision that they wanted to present. In today's time, developers would have so much more to work with that it'd be possible to do 2-regions while giving both regions enough of an identity, and a balanced level curve.
This whole idea that GF shouldn't do 2-regions because of what happened in GSC is very narrow-minded and unimaginative.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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They had a second chance to fix the problem about seven years ago, but they didn't. I'm not confident in GF's ability to do another dual region set up.
Aaronrules380
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This ignores that cartridge space is still an issue today, since the regions are bigger and the assets and such take up way more space than they did in GBC era. Pokemon games are already some of the biggest games on the 3DS
I don't care about what "everyone" loves. Gen 2 has problems, and not small ones either. I liked them as a kid because of how much bigger they were than Gen 1. After playing games with better regions and level curves it became clear to me that they fucked up in those two areas.
It definitely is.Aaronrules380 said:
Thanks for bringing this up, Brawly. In the run up to HGSS it was the main thing I was hoping for, that they'd fix the bizarre pokemon distribution and leveling curve of the originals. Neither fix happened, which makes me suspect of GF's awareness of their games' flaws. It certainly didn't make me hunger for another dual region title.Brawly likes to Brawl said:
The OR/AS debacle with the Battle Frontier being excised only soured my outlook on future remakes further.
Quality over Quantity, folks. Let's see if GF can deliver a stunning region first before we start demanding 2 of them at once.
Turbowaffles
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I just want the games to be here right meow 
MegaManTrigger
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From what I know, XY took up 1.7GB and ORAS took up 1.8GB. It's been reported that Nintendo has up to 8GB size cartridges (whether they use it or not is a different story, but the option is there). What would matter is cost, and how they design their regions.
Aaronrules380
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Keep in mind download sales are very important to Nintendo nowadays as well. Just because they can technically get that big doesn't make it viable