Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Because HDR is fucking garbage?
Xbox One S: 40% smaller, 2TB, 4K for movies/tv, internal PSU, $300
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I should think so too.
I havent got fuck all on my XB1 and I'm nearly at 73% space used. I don't understand why the OS takes up nearly 100 GB.
Still, I feel there will be a $250 option this fall. Whether it's through gift cards, or HD size is a different matter, but it will be there.
Theonik
Member
There is no chance the Scorpio is coming this year. They'd have sent out devkits by now if that was the case and as far as we know right now they haven't even decided on the target specs and instead have ballpark targets.
bodyboarder
Member
Price.
The_Inquisitor
Member
Sounds more and more like Scorpio is a Q4'17 release. So I don't think slim sales will be affected as much. Curious to see what Sony is thinking now.
GraceflAnger
Member
HDR is more of an improvement to picture quality than just 4K alone. I can't see them adding 4k for games but it's great for movies. A definite welcome if you ask me
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
If games are still targeting base Xbox One, then no, dev kits aren't necessary right now.
AMD's 480 being ready to sale in June is no coincidence. I still think Scorpio is this year or March 2017.
No they will be looking to leave behind the One branding I bet.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Wut?
jadedm17
Member
As said the 4k player is a good reason; Personally I've got a $300 Dell Giftcard from a tv purchase that expires the end of August so this X1 will probably be what I get. I'd rather live in the now and enjoy what I have then to wait for something not even announced; The only time waiting really makes sense are preset product cycles like Apple products.
It's your money to spend how you wish and I respect that, but so is mine and I'd rather enjoy something now.
demigod
Gold Member
They're not releasing 2 new boxes this year, especially when one isnt ready. Goodluck with getting a scorpio this year.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
No they wont. They need to avoid confusion with customers.
Yes, if Sony has new system, but not a big jump, and is more expensive, that may be interesting time for sales this holiday season. Just saying 4k now the the XBOX One S will confuse enough people.
Then if MS has new system the next holidays, that will be interesting too.
First it was the "it looks just like a smaller Xbox One", then "it looks just like the PS4".
Which is it?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
That looks great!
Theonik
Member
Moreover, implementing Scorpio specific features takes time and means they need to send devkits outs months in advance if they want to have titles to showcase the system with.
HDR is part of the 4K UHD Blu-ray specification.
People just say the dumbest thing that pops into their head.
For one its not even the same shape as a PS4.
And would be a page right out of Sony's playbook. I would laugh my ass off if it has one.
One things for certain.....the always online, TV TV TV fiasco lit a fire under MS.
Totaleclipes
Banned
What is surprising is MS beating Sony to a Blu-ray feature when Sony help pioneer the format I guess having major association with the brand doesn't help like it should.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I'm curious why you say this?
Eh, its not really a feature you have to race to get out considering how few uhd blurays are out there right now. Sony can afford to wait.
I didn't post the first comment. Stop being so butt hurt.
RichiRamjag
Member
It's copying the Wii! It's white and has a stand!
Jokes aside, you grabbing one of these?
sunshine and gasoline
Banned
The white xbox one looks very modern and really aesthetically pleasing. I would say it's the best looking console out right now.
I agree, this white Xbox One looks incredible.
Totaleclipes
Banned
I feel you but it's still a selling point that MS are using. I mean Sony shouldn't be worried but it's as you said with so few out there MS's new Xbox one S will be among the few that will scratch that 4k media content spot.
Samsungs player came out at $399.99 and it has a big mark up on it. Its also made of aluminium, and its priced to gouge early adopters. I highly doubt these drives cost signuficantly more than the existing drives, plus they have to use a better processor which comes included in a console as is.
That samsung players price is going to drop like a rock when the consoles come out because they'll be the more attractive option overall plus they won't be riddled with bugs.
a Master Ninja
Member
You are confused.
I think the discs themselves are the same. Just using h265 for better compression. You are really just talking better hardware but cheap socs can do h265 now i believe.
It's copying the Wii! It's white and has a stand!
Jokes aside, you grabbing one of these?
Yea, I think it looks fantastic.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
This is different than the graphics technique called HDR (i.e. the thing in Half Life 2: Lost Coast).
So he can sound edgy.
RichiRamjag
Member
Agreed. If pricing is similar, I'll probably jump on the train myself. Son will be happy, he'll get my old one lol.
And also: basically every game uses HDR lighting these days, it's just been dramatically toned down from the blinding bloom days of HL2:LC and the mid-2000s in general.
Get your wallet out then.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
What? Are they applying "HDR" to yet ANOTHER separate thing?
Here is what it has been before:
In photography: You take the same photo at different exposure levels and then merge them so no whites are blown out and no blacks are crushed. It essentially increases captured detail across a wide contrast beyond what our current technologies can do at once. So you could, say, have a dark indoors environment properly exposed as well as what is seen through the windows/doorway.
In videogames: When switching between indoors and outdoors environments the game dynamically manages its own sense of exposure level between different forms of lighting and postprocess and thus emulates what your eyes naturally do. Was really slow and sloppy in previous years but has made great improvements, now doing very well in games like Dragon Age Inquisition to even improve atmosphere in rain and tree shade and such.
In displays: When you're watching a movie and the scene is dark or bright, the TV artificially increases or decreases its exposure/gamma levels on the fly to try and maintain a theoretical midrange on the most detail to make the image pop. In practice all it does is shit all over the filmmaker's intention in every single shot, usually destroys detail in some way or another, over-brightens things that are intended to be dark, and since it is not properly instantaneous/fluid it creates a horribly inconsistent viewing experience like the cameraman was some moron constantly adjusting exposure to help himself see things through the eyepiece. Also called dynamic contrast.
Seeing as how there is so much protest to my post and with this clue about it being a feature of 4k, I can only assume that they are now using "HDR" as a way of describing increased contrast ratio. If that is the case, then of course I don't mind a higher range of contrast, but I am annoyed with them taking a term for a camera ability (the contrast ratio that a camera can capture across is called the "dynamic range" of a camera because it is actively capturing it, hence dynamic, whereas video output is static) and then to describe an increase in this, merging yet another separate thing into the "High Dynamic Range" term. They could easily say Wide Contrast Ratio if that is what they mean, but "HDR" has already been pushed as a buzzword for years.
BuckRobotron
Member
Looks nice. Size change, 2TB, etc all welcome. Plenty to consider with the upcoming system revisions and new systems but this is enticing.
Guardian Monkey
Member
Reminds me of ps2
MadJackChurchill
Banned
Just include a DisplayPort, for the love of god.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Fuuuuck the more I look at it the more I want it.
I dunno if I want a $300 Doom machine though.
I dunno if I want a $300 Doom machine though.