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[Neoxon]

The NX just has more console hardware competition now. They need to stand out all the more.

But won't Nintendo's competition be the base models, not the premium revisions? And if anything, the likely handheld form factor is gonna push the most units.

 

[PackAPunchedMick]

I wonder how people would feel if apple announced the iPhone 10 ten minutes after announcing the iPhone 9 then continued to say "releases 18 months from now"?

 

[SRTtoZ]

Like, what would have been lost if they announced Scorpio at next years E3 or a separate event instead of this year? I just don't get it.

 

[ironcreed]

I think they handled it very tastefully and the crowd seemed to be into it. I'm ready to learn more!

I thought so as well. I went in totally against the idea, but I think getting it out there, and launching holiday 2017 makes sense. As someone like me probably will wait until around mid 2018 to upgrade, which does not seem all that bad now that I think about it. I still have time to enjoy my Xbox One and will take all of my games with me.

 

[Tripolygon]

Let's make some maths with Polaris full.

40CU = 2650SPs

2560SPs * 1170Mhz * 2 = 6TFs

There you have the GPU.

I was going to do that but you beat me to it. I wonder what the power draw will be like, surely close to 150W.

 

[WadeitOut]

yeah it seemed a bit reactionary to me, didn't seem to be needed really what with the Model S already announced.

The Scorpio rumors came before the Neo stuff.

I wonder how people would feel if apple announced the iPhone 10 ten minutes after announcing the iPhone 9 then continued to say "releases 18 months from now"?

They might as well. Each iteration is basically the same now.

 

[23qwerty]

Is there any reason to buy this if you don't intend to buy a 4k TV or VR anytime soon?

I imagine they'll let you downsample

 

[Kibbles]

4k 30fps, is stupid. I hope that's not what Sony/MS are pushing.

If PS4K comes out this year, it will be interesting.. Leaves the door open to release yet another updated console.



Choice, I guess.

I can't even run current gen at 4k/60 on my i7 6700k + 980ti. I hope most games try 1440p/60.

 

[Yibby]

I'd honestly prefer they just aim for 1080/60 then with a strong IQ then.

This. I don't know why everyone is into 4k. Maybe because it's a cool buzzword you can use for marketing, but i prefer 1080/60,1080/30,1440... with better details, more viewdistance, better physics, ...
4k takes so much ressources with not many advantages for me.

 

[Dennis]

8 Cores
6 TFlops
320GB/s memory bandwidth
4K/VR Gaming
BC and forward compatible
2017

These are all good things.

Are we ready to admit Xbox One was a disappointment?

 

[BNGames]

6 Tflops eh?

My GTX 1080 is 10 Tflops

 

[Outrun]

Yup.

I don't think Microsoft cares what you do, as long as you buy their games.

This.

People are talking as if MS would be crying blood if people installed 10, engaged in XBL and purchased through WIN10 store...

 

[Vena]

Patrick Klepek ‏@patrickklepek 1m1 minute ago
Patrick Klepek Retweeted (((Noray)))
Devs I’ve talked to are unhappy about PS4.5 because it’s happening so fast, Sony demanding compatibility ASAP.

interesting

Sounds like Neo is shipping with whatever specs it has already.

 

[CMojicaAce]

Sony doesn't need to do anything yet. If anything, announcing so early might impact current XB1 sales negatively.

Sony can easily just use a PlayStation Meeting next February or next E3 to announce the Neo.

 

[Noobcraft]

They're selling some big dreams here. The only 4K 60fps games you should expect are indie titles or games like Ori.

Or Halo 6.

 

[Obscuritas]

Probably not. I also don't think they have to though.

Yep, they don't have to.

 

[ninjablade]

ok if neo doesn't answer i'm switching back to xbox. this this console we all wanted.

 

[Leonsito]

Announcing a new Xbox One, and 90 minutes later killing it by announcing a new console in 2017, bravo!

 

[TunaMarshmallow]

This may be a stupid question. But is this the successor to the Xbox One? (I haven't even crawled into the X1/PS4 generation, so... now maybe I'll just skip it?)

 

[mrklaw]

1080 will shit all over the scorpio..doesn't matter what time it happens.

thats what I said? Chinner's question was what PC would beat scorpio. I said a 1080 would beat a scorpio. If you built a PC with anything less than a 1070/1080 (brand new high end GPUs), then it would be on par or lower powered than the proposed scorpio specs.

 

[icespide]

Like, what would have been lost if they announced Scorpio at next years E3 or a separate event instead of this year? I just don't get it.

it drinks Sony's Neo milkshake a bit

 

[OrbitalBeard]

They can't even get their crap together with Zelda.

Uh, what are you talking about? Let's wait until tomorrow before concern-trolling over that game.

In terms of the NX, PS4 Neo and Scorpio aren't really a threat to Nintendo. Nintendo is its own worst enemy. If the NX fails, it'll because of poor decisions on their part.

 

[Portugeezer]

Weird that it's Holiday 2017. People on the fence might wait for that console, no?

 

[Hidden One]

I just noticed that with this announcement, Xbox One sales are probably going to hit all new lows. Which is bad with a new model out there soon.

Exactly.

 

[Alienous]

Wtf at no exclusive Scorpio games. That makes no sense.

It's a stupid move, and Sony seem to be doing the same.

All it does is devalue the console. Publishers and developers will make games primarily for the PS4 and Xbox One regardless, because of their install base. All they're doing is reducing the appeal of powerful new hardware, which will be anchored down by the restrictions of weaker hardware.

 

[wapplew]

What's so exciting about this iterative hardware with 6tf? It's still using 8gb or ram?
We all know how it's going to look and run today, all the games will just look like Xbox one games on PC running with 980ti. Same fucking experience.
It's the most boring new console ever, same goes for Neo.

 

[Mooreberg]

You see where I'm going with this? History has shown us that the most powerful console does not always win the generation. PS4 is the first generation where the actual strongest console also managed to be the generational leader. You don't need to have a ridiculous machine to compete as long as it is strong enough to handle the demands of the current technology.

The weirdest thing about all of this is why did Microsoft choose now to go this route? Who has built up a PS4/PSN library and is willing to ditch all of it? You start a "perpetual generation" when you are in the lead, not when you are far behind. The whole thing just makes me think I'll be investing more in Steam going forward.

 

[FZZ]

I find it funny that this and PS4 Neo were announced well in advance before they're gonna launch

Especially since neither Microsoft or Sony did that for the XB1 & PS4 initially

Shits weird brehs

 

[TheFatOne]

Don't get this announcement at all. It will most likely just kill the XboxOne sales, and that console is already struggling. Makes no sense to me to announce this console this early.

 

[Upinsmoke]

Sorry, any pictures? Has anything ever been announced and boasted so massively about by the creators to not actually show the product?

 

[SRTtoZ]

Seamus Blackley stated that all Xbox One games will work on Scorpio, but not vice versa. So basically cross-gen for a few years, then they'll just move to the new platform. I expect Scorpio exclusives whenever third parties don't want to bother with the Xbox One anymore, and Microsoft will just wait for it to happen naturally.

Oh okay good. I'm okay with this. They are pretty much telling people they are done with Xbox One. They've moved on.

 

[Spinluck]

Is this their next console or a new version of the XB1?

.

 

[HStallion]

Where is Don Mattrick when you need him?

 

[Psychoward]

So all this talk of 4k... will this or the Neo support raising framerate or effects while turning down to 1080p? I don't have a 4k TV.

 

[JayBabay]

Excited about this and I really hope Sony releases something on par so that I can now do all Xbox gaming through my PC and enjoy console gaming at the best possible quality while retaining exclusives from Sony.

 

[Don Lapre]

The 8 CPU cores HAVE to be ZEN, right?

I know Phil did not say anything about the CPU besides 8 cores, but they'd have to use Zen IMHO.

No. The current xbone and ps4 use 8 core cpus.

 

[BumRush]

Damn that's a beastly console. I wonder if Sony will alter plans or release holiday 2016 / holiday 2018.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Like, what would have been lost if they announced Scorpio at next years E3 or a separate event instead of this year? I just don't get it.

My guess is it's to stop people from buying the Neo.

 

[Long Division]

6 Tflops eh?

My GTX 1080 is 10 Tflops

I'm jelly.

 

[Papacheeks]

Exactly.

I remember saying this and getting banned hmm.

 

[AmyS]

This may be a stupid question. But is this the successor to the Xbox One? (I haven't even crawled into the X1/PS4 generation, so... now maybe I'll just skip it?)

Gaming Beyond Generations.

 

[ironcreed]

These are all good things.

Are we ready to admit Xbox One was a disappointment?

Nah, I still love mine and have a lot to look forward to on it.

 

[TheLegendary]

No way this is more $500.

Great reveal. I actually like the advance notice.

 

[LordOcidax]

Announcing a new Xbox One, and 90 minutes later killing it by announcing a new console in 2017, bravo!

They kill the Xbox One in a poetic way.

 

[CorrisD]

Whoever runs this is so on the ball sometimes with their jokes.

Amazing.

Being serious for a moment, i wonder if Sony's neo plans got MS to panic and make this announcement. All MS talked about were specs, which is very easy to do, it isn't until we have a machine in our hands that it means anything. This may be MS's attempt to try and kill some attention from the Neo. It is really odd to announce this far ahead of time when you are still trying to sell your current console.

I don't doubt that for a second.

Both MS and Sony announced their last consoles less than a year to their launches seemingly because mentioning their future consoles every few months for 2 years before release and then having to change a bunch of things makes them look bad. It's a lot of promises to make ahead of time and hope nothing goes wrong.

With Neo supposedly coming out this year they don't want to look like they are being left behind, so they've shown their hand now, hence all the numbers and multiple mentions of 6TF, that way when Sony come out and say theirs is 4-4.5tf they can say there's is already better even if its over a year away.

This whole forward compatibility thing is funny too, both MS and Sony moved away from exotic hardware for the same reaon, cheaper, easier to work with, and lets them bring everything with them for console updates.

 

[bunkitz]

Goddamn. Well, I'm going to assume Sony purposely confirmed the Neo's existence to lure Microsoft out like this so that they can readjust the Neo's specs or something.

 

[WadeitOut]

Oh okay good. I'm okay with this. They are pretty much telling people they are done with Xbox One. They've moved on.

Seamus Blackley is wrong as pointed out by Marty Sliva immediately after he said that.

 

[Cornbread78]

or they already had a few versions ready!

Good point.

Presentation 1 "no Neo"

or

Presentation "2" "Neo"
- presentation 2b "Neo with bumped up specs"

 

[EvB]

I'd hope they have an option to run at 1080p/60 instead of higher res/unlocked framerate. I mean, how many people even own 4k tv's?

I'll be buying one now there is a reason to. They are super cheap now.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Exactly.

gotta spend money to asdfljkhgl.kjahd.g,jkmhnzs.,mnb


some of you seem so concerned with Microsoft's short-term One prospects that you can't see how this sets Microsoft's gaming side up for a stronger and more relevant future.