That's what I am thinking as well. The Scorpio sounds brilliant, but MS didn't show one Xbox exclusive (unless I missed it). I still am tempted to buy one though.
Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017
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That's what I am thinking as well. The Scorpio sounds brilliant, but MS didn't show one Xbox exclusive (unless I missed it). I still am tempted to buy one though.
Kilau
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And the way MS worded "6 TF GPU" makes me think the system might not actually be at 6 TF even if it's capable, but holy crap a long wait to go and that tease...
DeepEnigma
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Ah, you are right, I see it now.
They want the PC players to buy games who won't buy a console. New console is for ppl too scared to mess with PC
I'm inclined to agree. This console generation hasn't worked out for them. Fuck it, start a new one. Have backwards compatability by all means but let the Scorpio be its own product.
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Well done. What goes around, comes around.
Sammy Samusu
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I find it hilarious. :lol :lol :lol
But they work directly with developers, they probably knew Scorpio and Neo were coming. I just don't think they are interested in this competition of cores and flops.
Outrun
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Tell us how you feel.
If you only has 299 bucks, then the Scorpio is irrelevant.
I know, right ;P
haha, gold
Empyrean Heaven
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Simple. They can't.
Risk Breaker
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NullPointer
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So I've done my own research on Scorpio and found the following detailed breakdown:
Strengths: Resourceful, brave, passionate, stubborn, a true friend
Weaknesses: Distrusting, jealous, secretive, violent
Scorpio likes: Truth, facts, being right, longtime friends, teasing, a grand passion
Scorpio dislikes: Dishonesty, revealing secrets, passive people
Note: See? Truthfacts.
Also leads me to believe Scorpio will release somewhere between October 23rd and November 21st.
And some hints and anecdotes that may shed some light on the project:
Strengths: Resourceful, brave, passionate, stubborn, a true friend
Weaknesses: Distrusting, jealous, secretive, violent
Scorpio likes: Truth, facts, being right, longtime friends, teasing, a grand passion
Scorpio dislikes: Dishonesty, revealing secrets, passive people
Note: See? Truthfacts.
Also leads me to believe Scorpio will release somewhere between October 23rd and November 21st.
And some hints and anecdotes that may shed some light on the project:
This explains the early announcement and the long wait.
Its gonna be cheaper than we think!
They certainly know their audience.
Mass Effect Andromeda is the killer Scorpio app, confirmed.
RowdyReverb
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Perhaps a few, but I think Scorpio is going to target a different section of the console market, and they're probably not going to advertise it heavily until next year.
wapplew
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Xbox one say hello.
VexMythoclast
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Can someone put this into a PC context. What are we looking at here, mid-tier rig or a near high end PC?
Delusibeta
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Probably not, but I wouldn't rule out a bump up to about 5.5 TF via overclocking.
Also please don't compare theoretical performance based on Nvidia cards having about the same Tflops as they will use AMD and AMD often has higher Tflops for same in-game performance in most games.
1070 has both higher Tflops and is Nvidia and remember it's over a year until the release so it will probably not be cutting-edge for that time it will probably reflect the current mid-range from AMD, maybe even the 580 from AMD for $200 again.
1070 has both higher Tflops and is Nvidia and remember it's over a year until the release so it will probably not be cutting-edge for that time it will probably reflect the current mid-range from AMD, maybe even the 580 from AMD for $200 again.
LunaticHigh
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I know, right ;P
Major Nelson, the gift that keeps on giving.
FYI, the Xbox One Scorpio won't cost a penny more than $399 when it's released next fall. Both Microsoft and Sony learned the hard way the folly of releasing $500 hardware. They won't make that mistake again.
Papacheeks
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4.2tf is for one configuration of the chip. When you do r&d you always have different configurations spec wise and gauge it.
I mean 4.2tf could be final. But I have to believe Scorpio leaks and specs could of had them go with Zen instead of Jaguar.
Neo is shipping much earlier, Scorpio next year, 18 months is a long time to prepare for a new machine, you can get cheaper parts etc...
if PS4K is launching next year, I bet it will more or less have the same specs
Lol. Lets just wait a few more months.
rahulkadukar
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The hope is strong with this one.
MS really does seem to have written everything off for this. It's a kind confusing message.
I'm delighted their strategy encompasses PC as a primary delivery pipeline now, and I think this box will help ensure MS content takes decent advantage of mid-to-high end PC hardware. But it makes this all the more irrelevant to me. What's the distinction for Xbox as a console now? On my (soon to be built PC) I'll have more power, access to the same VR ( if it's oculus, of course), the same MS content... The prospect of scorpio's power doesn't seem exciting next to what is buildable today for access to the same games.
Of course, as a console, this will still be appealing in terms of value and retail accessibility, areas where PC still falls down. That can't be underestimated. But it's a little unprecedented that these are now the only points to really distinguish this box.
I'm delighted their strategy encompasses PC as a primary delivery pipeline now, and I think this box will help ensure MS content takes decent advantage of mid-to-high end PC hardware. But it makes this all the more irrelevant to me. What's the distinction for Xbox as a console now? On my (soon to be built PC) I'll have more power, access to the same VR ( if it's oculus, of course), the same MS content... The prospect of scorpio's power doesn't seem exciting next to what is buildable today for access to the same games.
Of course, as a console, this will still be appealing in terms of value and retail accessibility, areas where PC still falls down. That can't be underestimated. But it's a little unprecedented that these are now the only points to really distinguish this box.
DeepEnigma
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I know, right ;P
Between him and Greenberg, their comments always come back to sting them.
12 would be ineresting. Might mean either going for GDDR5 (no X) and a 384 bit bus (unlikely) or GDDR5X clocked faster than what we've seen so far on a 192 bit bus. Latter would probably have nice pricing advantages, if it's possible.
Or it's just a marketing image and it will be a 256 bit bus.
I think Microsoft announced it now because they want to start a new gen even though they say nobody gets left behind and to see if they can make Sony wobble because if Neo isn't comparable, Sony holds back the Scorpio with PS4 and Neo but if Sony look to match Scorpio, it would result in the PS4 generation being pushed aside quicker giving Microsoft a better chance of competing on new ground. Microsoft are baiting Sony to finish this gen early.
not look like there will be exclusive gen games, all games will just scale backward effects to run on One I'm sure just as PC games do now... why not there are options for whatever your needs are. Full res on Scorpio or reduced on One, whatever your price point desires are, again just like pc gamers now but on an easy to use console.. about time for this. Been wanting this for years
Banditscout
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I give them a ton of credit for taking the risk. It may not be what the community believes in, but Microsoft is smart to embrace that technology moves at a much faster clip than the traditional console cycle can keep up with.
I edited my original post.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Misterxmedia, Mistercteam, and parasite76 amcry lol.
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well you can't fault microsoft for copying what's successful
Hidden One
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As of now with its announcement it seems high end but next year it'll be mid range.
I don't know what you mean.
My point is that the Scorpio hardware is limited by the current Xbox One hardware. It can't have its potential fully tapped as long as they enforce a shared library between it and the current Xbox One hardware.
CrazyHorse
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Actually, this time NX will be out before Scorpio. It's now down to Sony to show their cards.
If Neo is also late 2017, NX will have an advantage.
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A tweet from 3 years ago, really?
they can't
You know there's a lot of people who don't care at all about PC gaming right?
the significant change though is that with XB1 it was beaten by low end GPUs almost immediately. Scorpio is high end GPUs now and maybe mid-range by the time it comes out. It won't be beaten by super cheap PCs nearly as quickly as XB1 was.
rahulkadukar
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You get what you pay for
Haha
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mysteriousmage09
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I know, right ;P
Lol. Seriously though, what a pointless announcement. How the hell is anyone suppose to be excited for the Xbox One right now when you just revealed basically everything is on PC and you have Scorpio coming? Even if Neo releases at the time rumors state, the specs are irrelevant since the already leading console by a large margin will have the upgraded brother console out for more than a year before Scorpio hits the shelves.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Do you know why this is fine?
Because the people who would have bought an Xbox but are now waiting for the Scorpio are going to start saving their money starting now...
That means more people have more time to save to buy into the scorpio for MS. A huge initial install base is probably what they are going for with giving everyone enough time to prepare.
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