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[DeepEnigma]

Aside from the specs everything Phil said about the Scorpio ecosystem is exactly what the Neo would be doing.

But everyone was like "that's too much work for the devs' blah blah blah.

Now I see Colin of all people saying the Scorpio reveal was masterfully done. All the arguments should still apply.

That said apparently Sony isn't announcing Neo tonight anyway.

I would have to hear this explanation before I assume he is flip-flopping like a politician.

He may just be speaking about the PR presentation, and not that he actually all of a sudden 'seen the light'.

Then again, there is always those 5 Stages of Acceptance.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I don't know what you're arguing?

PS3 most powerful but lost to Wii
Xbox most powerful but lost to ps2
Dreamcast most powerful but lost to ps1

Something like that? I don't know if that's true btw, I'm guessing

 

[lovely ladies]

Did you miss Dead Rising 4?

Inclusion of DR4 was the result of last minute planning.

 

[xxl30001]

They just need to announce a crash game with the heart of the naughty dog games (or made by Naughty Dog themselves) to win E3 for me.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Oh, what's the story behind this please?

EDIT : I mean, is there more info on this somewhere? =D

Tales from my ass.

 

[J-Skee]

Aside from the specs everything Phil said about the Scorpio ecosystem is exactly what the Neo would be doing.

But everyone was like "that's too much work for the devs' blah blah blah.

Now I see Colin of all people saying the Scorpio reveal was masterfully done. All the arguments should still apply.

That said apparently Sony isn't announcing Neo tonight anyway.

The first thing I did was check Kinda Funny for his reactions, thinking he would be upset & I was shocked. Does anyone know if spoke about the confirmation of Neo yet?

 

[SDCowboy]

Oh you mean like E3 2013 when they removed the camera last minute to cut the PS4's price below Xbox One's?

Again, a company typically doesn't make their conference worse because the competition's wasn't good.

 

[5taquitos]

I can't believe people still think that these behemoth companies change press conferences that have been planned months in advance at the last second. The closest you get is quick videos like the infamous "How to Share a PS4 Game" video, but the conference itself will not change. At. All.

 

[GravityInsanity]

Sony should easily win best show. Microsoft show was somewhat salvaged by the hardware announcement. The games didn't look impressive outside of Forza Horizon 3 and and State Of Decay 2.

Well to be fair 90% of their conference was leaked which brought down some excitement for most people.

 

[Get_craycray]

Hmm, it's a bit worrying that there were no Capcom announcement at Microsoft's press conference. In no way are they gonna announce both Devil May Cry 5 and Resident Evil 7 at Sony's presser.

There won't be a DMC5 announcement.

 

[Vinc]

So Shinobi if you're here, please tell me this if you can.

As someone who thinks this E3 is... very tame so far... is Sony set to have significantly more hype worthy announcements? For the record, they've had my favorite conferences since around 2009 pretty consistently now, and I'm a Sony fan... but is this year even gonna touch anything from last year?

 

[TaterTots]

IMO, Sony was smart to not show Neo this E3.

The Scorpio announcement was such a joke. I guess it's good for die hard Xbox fans but that's about it.

I was starting to wonder if MS would put out another console tbh. If anything it comforted their fans? lol idk.

 

[gamerMan]

Sony just has to show up to win E3. This has been such an unexciting show. I am having a hard time staying awake. Please, Sony don't disappoint. Show me some games. Just Horizon Zero Dawn, Shenmue, Last Guardian is good enough for me. Don't talk about NEO unless it's 10 mega tera flip flops.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

PS3 most powerful but lost to Wii
Xbox most powerful but lost to ps2
Dreamcast most powerful but lost to ps1

Something like that? I don't know if that's true btw, I'm guessing

I was thinking N64 to PS1 since Dreamcast was techically PS2-era.

N64 is tricking because even though it had better specs sticking to cartridges instead of CDs really gimped it in areas.

 

[AtkO]

Tales from my ass.

Damn, Bandai Namco has really been slacking off lately with the title of their Tales series.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Well to be fair 90% of their conference was leaked which brought down some excitement for most people.

Honestly, if I had gone into that conference completely blind to the leaks, I'd be feeling the same way. Other than Scorpio, it was the most predictable MS conference in years.

 

[SolidSnakex]

So Shinobi if you're here, please tell me this if you can.

As someone who thinks this E3 is... very tame so far... is Sony set to have significantly more hype worthy announcements? For the record, they've had my favorite conferences since around 2009 pretty consistently now, and I'm a Sony fan... but is this year even gonna touch anything from last year?

He's previously said that Sony's was the conference he was most excited about.

 

[Liamc723]

Oh you mean like E3 2013 when they removed the camera last minute to cut the PS4's price below Xbox One's?

...Is this seriously a thing people think?

 

[Boke1879]

PS3 most powerful but lost to Wii
Xbox most powerful but lost to ps2
Dreamcast most powerful but lost to ps1

Something like that? I don't know if that's true btw, I'm guessing

Yea but I'm not saying the PS4 won because it was more powerful. That's a cherry on top sure, but it's mostly because MS fucked up their reveal and they never recovered. Not to mention the PS4 was cheaper and had that insane cheap shot at the end of E3 2013 I think.

 

[Chase17]

Year of dreams 2.0 always sounds funny to me because I first think of it as being an updated version of all the same stuff as last year. Although I do know what people mean.

I thought the Microsoft conference was well put together but it didn't really have anything that interested me outside of indies and maybe a few others. E3 so far has pretty much just been going through the motions, which is fine I suppose. Hoping Sony will also have a well put together conference and hopefully with some more games that jump out as exciting to me. Wasn't as big as others on their conference last year but still enjoyed it, and I think they should be in good position to put together another nice show this year too.

 

[Robert at Zeboyd Games]

Also, you gotta remember that these are huge corporations, not sports teams. The goal isn't to beat Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft/whoever, it's to make decisions that further your company's long-term and short-term goals. Now, if those decisions happen to cause you to "beat" the competition, that's great, but that's not the end-goal.

 

[Wace]

PC Show is the best by far right now. Cliffy B looks way more like himself, compared to minecraft-vr-carmack.

New games, nothing AAA-level, but I haven't heard about most of them, and that is fresh for this E3.

 

[TaterTots]

people expecting Sony to "save" E3 setting themselves up for disappointment.

Some are spoiled from last year. It will probably stay that way for years.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Shinobi and Keighley both were hyped for Sony.

 

[Liamc723]

Honestly, if I had gone into that conference completely blind to the leaks, I'd be feeling the same way. Other than Scorpio, it was the most predictable MS conference in years.

Yup, in terms of new games, it was very bad.

 

[Bandit1]

Sony should easily win best show. Microsoft show was somewhat salvaged by the hardware announcement. The games didn't look impressive outside of Forza Horizon 3 and State Of Decay 2.

Those were the only two games at the conference that interested me honestly.

 

[Tonky]

Again, what you proposed, isn't how business works. You don't make your conference worse because the competitions wasn't good.

You're being blinded by hype. Sony wouldn't be making their conference worse. They would be reallocating their "eggs" into more logical "baskets," as opposed to what Gopher said about them "showing all that they know."

 

[HughJanuss]

I think some of you guys are missing something here.
With Scorpio, MS is ditching the Xbox One because games that taking advantage of the Scorpio wont work on the One.
That means that MS is splitting the install base and starting a new one with the Scorpio.

From my understanding, Sony has a completly different strategy, they want to keep the PS4 install base with the Neo so every game will work on both.
So even if you take advantage of the Neo, you still have like 50m install base.

Assuming im correct, why would Sony need such a big upgrade like the one MS is going for? they have all the install base already.

If I dont make any sense, please correct me.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

The first thing I did was check Kinda Funny for his reactions, thinking he would be upset & I was shocked. Does anyone know if spoke about the confirmation of Neo yet?

He said something like that he thinks that Sony might have pulled Neo out of E3 when they realized that Scorpio would be much more powerful than Neo.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Some are spoiled from last year. It will probably stay that way for years.

Last year's E3 is not going to be topped for a long time.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Yea but I'm not saying the PS4 won because it was more powerful. That's a cherry on top sure, but it's mostly because MS fucked up their reveal and they never recovered. Not to mention the PS4 was cheaper and had that insane cheap shot at the end of E3 2013 I think.

Ya for sure, I agree.
Thought there are people in the Scorpio thread with the Sony are doomed rhetoric because of the comparative specs, lol

 

[Pachimari]

Based on what reasoning? Both of those titles would likely, overwhelmingly, sell the most on the PS4.

I just find it highly unlikely they would announce two huge games at one place right after another. It rarely happens.

There won't be a DMC5 announcement.

How do we know this?

 

[Deckard Chapel]

Is any media outlet doing a live-stream of this press conference?

If so, does anyone have a link?

 

[SDCowboy]

Will someone please post the Gopher poem to calm some folks down? lol

 

[Cow Goes Moo]

Shinobi and Keighley both were hyped for Sony.

keighley is a hype man and shinobi is almost always optimistically positive

Spoiler

im excited too

 

[Lingitiz]

Sony should easily win best show. Microsoft show was somewhat salvaged by the hardware announcement. The games didn't look impressive outside of Forza Horizon 3 and and State Of Decay 2.

Good showings of Persona 5, Horizon, TLG, and GoW 4 would be enough for me. They have the lineup to do it, as long as they don't get caught in the typical press conference pitfalls of 30 mins of indie games already on PC, or 10 minute demos of CoD and multiplat games shown at other press conferences.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

keighley is a hype man and shinobi is almost always optimistically positive

Spoiler

im excited too

Need hype levels described as gallons of milk, STAT.


I'm hyped. I'm hoping for great things tonight

 

[Boke1879]

The first thing I did was check Kinda Funny for his reactions, thinking he would be upset & I was shocked. Does anyone know if spoke about the confirmation of Neo yet?

Dont want to start anything but I really think journalists etc kinda lean towards MS with a lot of things. As you see even Colin who gave Neo tons of shit thinks Scorpio is a great idea. Literally everything with Scorpio is what Neo is doing.

 

[Simo]

Guys, looks like Kojima might be on the YouTube show in 30 minutes!

 

[PdotMichael]

Yea but I'm not saying the PS4 won because it was more powerful. That's a cherry on top sure, but it's mostly because MS fucked up their reveal and they never recovered. Not to mention the PS4 was cheaper and had that insane cheap shot at the end of E3 2013 I think.

mostly...

Maybe if we ignore the fact that the Playstation 3 was outselling the 360 basically since release.

There are millions of sales thread every week and people still don't get the basics.

 

[Primethius]

A great GoW4 demo alone will beat the MS conference. That's how much hype it lacked for me.

 

[FelipeMGM]

Was out of Gaf during the conference, but did ekim or dragon punch said anything about Dead Rising 4? Is is Xbox and PC only or is it coming to PS4 as well?

 

[The God]

I think some of you guys are missing something here.
With Scorpio, MS is ditching the Xbox One because games that taking advantage of the Scorpio wont work on the One.
That means that MS is splitting the install base and starting a new one with the Scorpio.

From my understanding, Sony has a completly different strategy, they want to keep the PS4 install base with the Neo so every game will work on both.
So even if you take advantage of the Neo, you still have like 50m install base.

Assuming im correct, why would Sony need such a big upgrade like the one MS is going for? they have all the install base already.

If I dont make any sense, please correct me.

They're not ditching X1. They said that everything will work across X1-X1S-Scorpio.

 

[biglittleps]

Yea but I'm not saying the PS4 won because it was more powerful. That's a cherry on top sure, but it's mostly because MS fucked up their reveal and they never recovered. Not to mention the PS4 was cheaper and had that insane cheap shot at the end of E3 2013 I think.

This gen PC was the most powerful platform to PS4 and XB1.

 

[slavesnyder]

...Is this seriously a thing people think?

It's common knowledge.
Right now they are trying to include at least three different console versions into their show to top microsoft.

 

[icespide]

Was out of Gaf during the conference, but did ekim or dragon punch said anything about Dead Rising 4? Is is Xbox and PC only or is it coming to PS4 as well?

nothing concrete

 

[Get_craycray]

How do we know this?

I've read somewhere it's planned but won't be shown at E3, can't remember who said this though. But my bets are more on a RE7 reveal and no DMC5 (like you said, I doubt they'll unveil 2 big games like that)

 

[Chase17]

Dont want to start anything but I really think journalists etc kinda lean towards MS with a lot of things. As you see even Colin who gave Neo tons of shit thinks Scorpio is a great idea. Literally everything with Scorpio is what Neo is doing.

Towards the end of that post show he began to talk about how he believes it will run into many of the same Neo will.

 

[xxl30001]

As a guy with a PC with a GTX 770, is there a point of buying any Xbox consoles? I could just play the Microsoft games on windows 10 right?

Probably should buy a new hardrive though

 

[Crimson_Gold]

It's common knowledge.
Right now they are trying to include at least three different console versions into their show to top microsoft.

Please dust off the PSX. It was ahead of its time