Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017

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Something just doesn't add up here. Ask any PC gamer how much it costs to build something that runs EVERY game at 4K and it's clear this thing is going to be pricey as hell, or they're misrepresenting the capabilities of this machine.

Definitely misrepresenting.

You can't run modern console games at 4K and 60 fps "without compromises" unless you've got a bleeding edge graphics card in SLI. There obviously WILL be compromises, most likely in framerate because pretty IQ sells.
 
I don't think anyone would refute this, unless Sony changes their mind

IMO, they should.

Sony could just hint that they're working on something similar to Scorpio, without revealing the specs. Just say something like, you'll be surprised just as you were when you heard about 8GB of GDDR5 memory for the PS4, or something like that.

Then just start re-structuring NEO from there.

But if the rumours are true that they're releasing NEO this year, I think its too late to do that.
 
I just rewatched this portion of the stream and they specifically said ''True 4K resolution'' I'm having a REALLY hard time believing it. There's just no way that a console in 2017 will be able to play games at 4k and at a reasonable frame rate and also having decent graphics. If all of this is true then that console next year will be the Microsoft version of the infamous ''$699'' I just don't see it happening. it would've been better just to not say anything. Because it sounds like a fairy-tale at this moment.

We live in a world where people complained about a $500 Xbox so people are going to lose their shit if this gets announced at 6/7 hundred dollars.
 
You can't compare Nv TF's to AMD's

A 980Ti is what, 5.6tf, my R9 Nano is 8Tf, but it in no ways beats a 980Ti in games.

A 6tf AMD GPU equivilent is the performance you get from a 390X.

I never said it would beat the 980TI in games.

In fact I said the opposite. Still, the 980ti comparison will probably be like 10-20% increase.
 
is it safe to say that the generation is over next year?

Probably safe to say that generations will be blurred from here on. Upgraded HW every couple of years, with MS/Sony having one year each as "the most powerful". From now on, it´s all about locking the userbase to the ecosystem. For now, Sony have the upper hand.
 
LOL, you guys are funny. You honestly think that power was the reason why PS4 is winning? Dream on.

Have to agree with this sentiment. All I got out of MSs press convergence was - fast moving, loud bangs, snooty snooty gameplay. For me PS is where the games are at - Naughty Dog in da house ;)

MS did nothing to change my perception that they are the home of Bro-gamer COD and FIFA.

I know their catalogue is more varied than that but, they're not showing The Last Guardian or Horizon Zero Dawns.

They managed to turn me off of FF XV with that demo and I'm sure I can wait for Inside to port over.

Add to that there strategy is to have all exclusives run on PC and you left wondering - why XBox?
 
is it safe to say that the generation is over next year?

Might be safe to say that the concept of generations are over next year, but we have to see what Sony's plan is for that as well.

Have to agree with this sentiment. All I got out of MSs press convergence was - fast moving, loud bangs, snooty snooty gameplay. For me PS is where the games are at - Naughty Dog in da house ;)

MS did nothing to change my perception that they are the home of Bro-gamer COD and FIFA.

I know their catalogue is more varied than that but, they're not showing The Last Guardian or Horizon Zero Dawns.

They managed to turn me off of FF XV with that demo and I'm sure I can wait for Inside to port over.

Add to that there strategy is to have all exclusives run on PC and you left wondering - why XBox?

Your post emanates that you would fit your perception of what you think a Bro-gamer is.
 
Sony need to re-arm Neo.

I reckon Japanese pride will make them re-arm the Neo to outdo the Scorpio. No way will they allow themselves to be left behind in the console arms race.
 
Yep. Neo sounded like shit and I wasn't interested in it.

MS is pushing Sony forward. I think this is why House came out and said PS4K won't be at E3. They have a severely underpowered system and they know it.


Good analysis.

Sony could be fatally underpowering their system because "people won't switch ecosystems"

I swear did don matrick start working for PlayStation?
 
ah thought you were trying to state something with it, sorry.

no worries ;) A lot of misinformation is spread around with hardware specs and I just assumed that was happening again :P

gpu wise?

4 - 4.5x

the rest. who knows, the scorpio could have the same cpu as the X1 for all we know
 
An 8-core processor would mean they're dropping AMD and going with Intel, wouldn't it?
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I'm guessing that this is for people who don't pay attention/care about the PC.

For people who want the best console gaming experience and don't care for building PCs or for people who just want it just because.

I'm curious to see if PC GAF is interested in this. I have a high end windows 10 PC so I don't see the point of having both especially when all of the games can be played on Windows 10 devices.

It's cool to see consoles going this route though,
 
Doesn't matter how fast technology moves, the market always speaks and Microsoft and Sony will be forced to go back to the long generation cycles. It's not just about supply.

naw, i doubt this will effect them, consoles will become more like pc's in a box, thanks to amd, consumer will be giving choices, consoles are just pc's being sold in a box by powerful brands, i don't see how this won't be profitable venture considering amd and nividia are make new gpu's and cpu's almost every year.
 
The best thing about scorpio being real to me is the confirmation that other stuff that leaked are real too.

Can't wait for Ms to finally announce Helix and get serious on this win/xbox unification.
 
If Sony release a lower spec Neo this year surely the question for MS and Scorpio is when will Neo's successor drop? 2018? 2019? How long will Scorpio be top dog for?

It's like AMD and vIdeos releasing new GPUs every other month. Whose top GPU dog this week, AMD or nVidia?
 
So Xbox One gen was a 4 year cycle one? wow, almost same lifetime as original Xbox then with Xbox 360 having the longest life.

Won't this annoucement hurt Xbox One sales though, til the end of 2017?

Lastly, pretty damn good tone from MS, what a difference from the XB1 launch.
 
The GPU increase sounds nice, but are people going to be happy with the same visuals they see today just in 4k? Would you rather have the new power of the console pushing 1080p60 content or 4k?
 
For people who want the best console gaming experience and don't care for building PCs or for people who just want it just because.

I'm curious to see if PC GAF is interested in this. I have a high end windows 10 PC so I don't see the point of having both especially when all of the games can be played on Windows 10 devices.

It's cool to see consoles going this route though,

Yeah, this box is pretty much irrelevant to PC gamers. The only thing I really want from them now is to fix the god awful UWP.

They pretty much have to cater to PC gamers now to maintain some relevance.
 
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