Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017
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GarthVaderUK
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I think it's a better idea to leave it up to developers to decide rather than force everyone into supporting multiple machines.
Well, 2018 it is for me then. As I have said earlier, that is enough time for me to be okay with this now. But four years is my minimum.
Saintruski
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"native 4k frame buffer" means uuuum well i dont know if that exisits really. framebuffer to make it extremely simple, is where bitmapped images are stored to be sent to your display AKA VRAM...not sure why he tagged on "native 4k," the objects within are able to be native to your output. other than that it makes no sense at all other than for marketing. Maybe he meant maximum support support GPU res supported natively without upscaling?
HappehLemons
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This is almost absloutly the case.
The point Phil makes in this interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtFUTiwPcQs
Is that Xbox One games will all work with Scoripo, but doesn't say anything about the other way around. Which I am fine with.
StarBlazers1
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Riiiiight! So no studio wants to make a game accessible to 30 million XB1 users. Games will be scalable. Shannon Loftis just said that on Youtube. Low end PC settings(XB1) - High End PC Specs - (Scorpio) Though it is up to the Developer
Karak
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No esp on my side sorry. I have lived through far too many E3's for that.
Can't see devs not having a choice.
soxinthebox
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I'd upgrade my Xbox if the price isn't outrageous. Glad all my games will still work and perhaps some even better.
Obscuritas
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Gemüsepizza
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I doubt that there will be any Scorpio exclusive games in 2017 (aside from VR). But at a later time? Absolutely.
SmoothRunningGun
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Yep. No plans to replace my tv anytime soon.
I have a feeling that you've misread my post, just a little.
CyberPunked
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Dark Souls 2, Watch_Dogs, The Witcher 3, The Division, etc. All games that were downgraded because of the lowest denominator.
I'm expecting a lot of big games next year released around the launch of the Scorpio will offer VR modes.
MS not having to worry about getting VR working on X1 will save them a lot of headaches.
I'd also say that VR will probably be a bit more affordable to the average consumer by that point as well.
MS not having to worry about getting VR working on X1 will save them a lot of headaches.
I'd also say that VR will probably be a bit more affordable to the average consumer by that point as well.
chromatic9
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Phil Spencer just said in the video that devs can choose to go for native 4k or use the 6tflops in other ways.
Karak
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Gemüsepizza;206860295 said:
Exactly. Pretty much hardware iteration style. Though I did just recently try to run a title on my older tablet which was hilarious.
Ya its gonna be cool to see these new systems working
Don't think it matters too much, we would have never moved on from last gen if numbers mattered. If a publisher thinks they can sell something new successfully on a smaller user base but enough for success, they'll do it. 6TF vs 1.2TF, let them stretch their legs. I think there will be plenty of games for the next few years but they will try bigger and better things eventually and don't count out old consoles, devs can do great things on weaker hardware.
Glorified G
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4 years difference. Xbox 360 games didn't work on Xbox and no one really complained
This is fine.
Sweet!!
Obscuritas
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No, going by Spencer's words it's quite the opposite.
Ricky Ricardo
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None of that matters. Talking about a native framebuffer ahead of any games means its an internal dev priority and not a talking point around console war-fueled resolution crises.
Karak
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Ya exactly.
Saucycarpdog
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They're both looking at Apple and saying "we want a slice of that".
GarthVaderUK
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I'm hoping it'll be my VR jumping in point, and it'll be great if they support multiple VR options as is rumoured.
Wishmaster92
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Wait what??? That's a megaton and a gamechanger
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Life will find a way
Obscuritas
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Nope, PS4 and X1(s) are not and won't be 2013's PS360, and even then we saw a lot of cross-gen games. You know, publishers usually don't like losing opportunity to make money.
Rubbish. New more powerful hardware, BC included, no stipulation to support both platforms with new releases. It's a new generation. PR saying it isn't doesn't make it so.
LlamaJohnson
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I have a dumb question: Do ALL PC games have graphic settings/options? If this is true, than why don't devs make the game at the highest settings, than just change the settings before it's packaged for the Xbox One S. Am I explaining myself correctly? Am I oversimplifying? I don't see why this can't be done.
They said 4k gaming multiple times in the briefing. And it can easily handle 4K res at 30 fps and higher with current graphical fidelity. PC GPUs that are weaker can do it and this will be in a closed box and can be coded to the metal.
Even if you weight the consoles hw-performance with its sales the og xbox is in a uncomfortable position if it turns out there's no "no one get left behind policy" like Sony has it in it's designer docs. The old xbox might get really bad ports in the future.
Honestly, I can't see why they would want to.
Not at first. Why alienate Xbox one core userbase
It will be like destiny. All platforms will be supported until the Scorpio base expands enough to leave the old Xbone behind
Of course there will be Scorpio only titles. MS will want a showpiece or two at minimum.
qa_engineer
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Wishmaster92
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Not at first is ok by me but in a year I would want something that is only possible on the Scorpio such as a more vast open world or svogi . And not just a 4K or 60fps paint job over current gen titles
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They've been quiet on CPU and RAM for what I'm assuming are competitive reasons. Those things are still in flux.
Karak
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Were doing a big 6 dev videocast for the channel and the devs saw my questions on google docs.
The response to this question
"Uhg. no.
Nope
Why?
HERE WE GO!
LOL Probably going to be a somewhat typical burnout phase for older tech and maybe a couple MS upgrade programs once they see the bite.
You don't build a console 3x+ more powerful just to play Xbox One game in 4k. That would be a bit dumb.
I would be pissed as an XB1 owner.
Obscuritas
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Nice wishful thinking. They are just launching a X1 sku with an aggressive price, believing that it will be soon abandoned is pretty much delusional.
Yea that Major Nelson video was good, good questions were asked.
Wishmaster92
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I thought that was the general consensus because of "avoiding alienation every game will be playable on Xbox one up to Scorpio " this is great news for me if there are going to be exclusives harnessing the full power of a 6tf dx12 box
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