Gator drags child into water near Disney's Grand Floridian

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What do you expect anyone to do? Gators and Crocs grab prey in seconds and then disappear into the water. The child was most likely dead within minutes either by drowning as the alligator dragged him under or by the massive trauma the wounds would have caused. Reading up on this, it happened at 9:30pm at night. Which means a dark and murky lagoon. So by the time the parents probably noticed the grab or noticed their child was no longer on the land near the lagoon it is too late.

Yeah, have some of you guys never seen footage of an alligator attacking something? They're pretty big (or can be) and also pretty fast. Add in that they often kill their prey by quickly pulling it underwater and it's not hard to imagine how the parents being maybe seven feet away and looking away for literally two seconds could have ended in this tragedy.
 
Jesus cigar. I took my two year old there about five years ago assuming the lakes (including the one in front of that hotel with a beach!) were empty. Disney fucked up.

There are loads of no swimming signs but paddling at the beach is encouraged.
 
Horrible.

This is why I used to get nervous when my kid was even walking along the boat dock of our canal. I just imagine some big hungry gator coming up and getting him.

Now he swims in the lake. 8 years old in the middle of a lake that we've seen a dozen or more gators on.

I sometimes look at my inlaws and my wife and go "are you out of your fucking mind?" but sit and just watch him...just watch him and not have fun because I'm fucking terrified he's going to be pulled under.

Well, either you stop him or you're feeding your son to alligators. You don't just fucking sit there and watch him!
 
1. How close was the child to the water?

2. Why was he that close to the water?

3. If there are gators in the fucking water, why the fuck are there no barriers up in the first place?

4. Why the fuck would it even be possible for a child to get close enough to alligator-infested waters, at DISNEY FUCKING WORLD, in the first place?

This is either horrible parenting or another boy falling into gorilla enclosure at the zoo incident.

This isn't a zoo. It is a huge ass lake on the grounds of the Walt Disney World resort. There are wild animals in the area, including gators. The gator isn't part of some exhibit. Disney is no more responsible for this than a hotel in Miami Beach is if someone were attacked by a shark in the ocean.
 
Jesus cigar. I took my two year old there about five years ago assuming the lakes (including the one in front of that hotel with a beach!) were empty. Disney fucked up.

There are loads of no swimming signs but paddling at the beach is encouraged.

They remove the gators to the best of their ability, but it's Florida and it's impossible to stop them from getting in or getting all of them.

An actual gator attack on humans is pretty rare, just like a shark at the beach. It can happen though obviously :(
 
1. How close was the child to the water?

2. Why was he that close to the water?

3. If there are gators in the fucking water, why the fuck are there no barriers up in the first place?

4. Why the fuck would it even be possible for a child to get close enough to alligator-infested waters, at DISNEY FUCKING WORLD, in the first place?

This is either horrible parenting or another boy falling into gorilla enclosure at the zoo incident.

It's Florida, THERE ARE GATORS EVERYWHERE. If there's a body of water around, then you guarantee a alligator will find it. The kid and his/her Parents were probably outside for a night walk or watching the fireworks.
This was an incredibly unfortunate accident, nothing more.
 
Every body of water in Florida has gators.

Not everything has to be somebody's fault. Sometimes tragedies just happen.
I'm guessing that most people would assume that there were no alligators in a lake at Disney if they weren't from Florida. I'm also guessing that Disney don't announce this fact because they don't want to ruin people's image of disney world. I'm also guessing that someone is regretting that decision.
 
If the movie-on-the-beach stuff is true, then all the people with that child should be thrown in fucking jail and charged with negligent homicide.
 
1. How close was the child to the water?

2. Why was he that close to the water?

3. If there are gators in the fucking water, why the fuck are there no barriers up in the first place?

4. Why the fuck would it even be possible for a child to get close enough to alligator-infested waters, at DISNEY FUCKING WORLD, in the first place?

This is either horrible parenting or another boy falling into gorilla enclosure at the zoo incident. There is no way in hell anyone should be on the shoreline of alligator-infested waters.

The Polynesian resort beach on Seven Seas Lagoon

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The Grand Floridian resort beach on Seven Seas Lagoon

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Says there was a "movie night" out on the beach.

an example movie night at the Polynesian (kid was taken at Grand Floridian)
 
If the movie-on-the-beach stuff is true, then all the people with that child should be thrown in fucking jail and charged with negligent homicide.

WHAT?!

They've been showing movies on the beach there forever. It's not right along the water, this kid must have been closer to the water though.
 
This is awful news but they better not freaking kill the gator.

They will have to because the gator will be conditioned to seek out prey near the area now. As well as the fact they will need to retrieve the remains. The gator will be easy to spot because most likely it will have the bulge from the child on its body as well as still be near the area.
 
So let me get this straight...

They have a beach, where people swim, in gator-infested waters...?

Not talking about the open ocean - talking about a lagoon. Much more alligator friendly.


And that's normal? And the hotel or whatever sponsors movies at night on that beach?

Nobody ever thought a gator might walk up on the beach and grab a kid?

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding why this is even legal, much less advertised??
 
why kill an animal for being an animal? i mean you're pretty much in his territory if you're near the water. gators gonna gator.

and how the hell are they going to find out which gator it was specifically.
 
So let me get this straight...

They have a beach, where people swim, in gator-infested waters...?

Not talking about the open ocean - talking about a lagoon. Much more alligator friendly.


And that's normal? And the hotel or whatever sponsors movies at night on that beach?

Nobody ever thought a gator might walk up on the beach and grab a kid?

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding why this is even legal, much less advertised??

1. Its Flordia, its almost impossible to keep every gator out of a single body of water
2. This has been happening for years, decades even. This is the first account i think we have ever heard.

They made need to make small tweaks, but this is 100% a tragic accident
 
This is a parent's worst nightmare...
 
So let me get this straight...

They have a beach, where people swim, in gator-infested waters...?

Not talking about the open ocean - talking about a lagoon. Much more alligator friendly.


And that's normal? And the hotel or whatever sponsors movies at night on that beach?

Nobody ever thought a gator might walk up on the beach and grab a kid?

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding why this is even legal, much less advertised??

First off you are not allowed to swim in the water, it's a fake beach with signs ALL over the place that say NO SWIMMING.

They have events on the beach though yes, including movie night. The movie night is giant TV on the beach that you sit by and watch the film, they usually have games and lots of employees out there with everyone. This has been happening for years and I've been to a few myself. You are not next to the water it's up near the top of the beach but still on the beach. This attack clearly happened away from the movie.
 
No word yet so don't know. They do have signs all over saying no swimming or getting in the water, but I've seen this rule broken MANY times.



I've seen quite a few in my days on the boat or monorail, they are definitely in there.

Pretty sure Disney will kill as many of them in there as they can once this story works its way through the news cycle
 
didn't we have a "maybe lay off the local news threads that do nothing but depress" thing going on? :(
 
This is really sad and just terrifying, traumatizing for the parents and family.

I've never seen gators in the lagoon, but its a gaurantee that it has them. The lagoon is roughly the size of the Magic Kingdom itself and it's connected to Bay Lake, which is a good sized lake.

Also without knowing details you absolutely can't blame the parents here... The resort is on a man-made beach that runs up to the lagoon, and while there's specifically no swimming allowed in the lagoon, it's normal to see kids running around on the beach area. Gators survive on sneaking up on a victim.

So let me get this straight...

They have a beach, where people swim, in gator-infested waters...?

Not talking about the open ocean - talking about a lagoon. Much more alligator friendly.


And that's normal? And the hotel or whatever sponsors movies at night on that beach?

Nobody ever thought a gator might walk up on the beach and grab a kid?

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding why this is even legal, much less advertised??

Swimming isn't allowed, the beaches are more or less for decoration, though you can sit around them. The movie area is "on the beach" but far from it in a highly populated area, well lit area. And in the 30 years that the Grand Floridian has been open, this has never happened (that I know of).
 
why kill an animal for being an animal? i mean you're pretty much in his territory if you're near the water. gators gonna gator.

and how the hell are they going to find out which gator it was specifically.

Because if it has a history of killing a human, it might do it again. They're not super smart. Good hunters, but it has a known bad habit of going after people and associating that with a meal. It isn't worth the risk. Gator population in Florida is perfectly fine.
 
Never get into or next to water at Disney unless it's a pool.

Hate to break it to you, but guess where gators are found commonly in cities/suburb areas...

The things are amazingly fast when attacking, its not really surprising that it could grab a small child and be in the water again before anyone realized what happened. That's what they do. Usually after an attack or assumed menace they cull the area. Catch all the animals they can in a few days time then call it a success.

Sadly there is no way to rid the area of them entirely. It's their habitat plain and simple. They can walk on land and swim in water able to get to where ever they want more or less. Get rid of this one/these few and more will be there in a few years.
 
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