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Paper Mario Color Splash seems to have same (bad) boss mechanics as Sticker Star
- Thread starter DNAbro
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Pokemaniac
Member
One of the biggest issues with Sticker Star was that experimentation was painful. Of they're keeping this annoying boss system, it's only going to ruin the game again if they don't fix the core issue.
Velcro Fly
Member
It is obvious they want Mario & Luigi to be the RPG series and Paper Mario to be something else entirely
TheDinoman
Member
That's what we said last time, too. And the time before that.
they sticker star'd paper jam too
even the mario spinoffs aren't allowed to have new original characters
it's bullshit
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
Member
But is there a story worth giving a shit about with a whole bunch of fun partners and side characters?
Mr Waluigi
Banned
for anyone who wants to compare:
mario
parakarry
lady bow
bowser
kooper
a goomba
peach
kammy koopa
mario
koops
goombella
vivian
beldam
marylin
bowser
flurrie
peach
yoshi kid
crumps
grodus
audience members
mario
tippie
peach
bowser
a squiglet
a goomba
luigi
count bleck
mario
kersti
megasparkle goomba
a toad
mario
huey
a shy guy
two rescue squad toads
SomedayTheFire
Member
Paper Mario is dead. Let it go.
Ah so this is more a matter of implementation, because I quite like the concept.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Can't wait.
wild wild rice
Member
Game looks pretty fun to me.
Baloonatic
Member
I look forward to reactions to this video.
Confirms that you level up your paint capacity though.
A Link to the Past
Banned
But they are. I'm playing through it right now and I avoid almost all of the battles if I can. The battles aren't very fun and I get enough coins and stickers just by going through the levels. I guess maybe we have different perspectives, but I don't think it's idiotic to notice something and then point out that you noticed it.
Its story is about as deep as your average Mario game, no new characters (besides Kersti) or enemies (I don't even remember if they allowed variations of existing enemies to be created), and the battle system discourages you from participating in battles. It's a very poor game.
How so?
TheDinoman
Member
Well, there's the new Zelda over there which is a pretty big step forward to that series. Wish some of their other series were getting the same treatment though.
nckillthegrimace
Member
At least you level up your paint capacity through combat. That's something.
What they should do is stop making those as sales and critical reception continue to dwindle and make Paper Mario an RPG series again.
What they should do is stop making those as sales and critical reception continue to dwindle and make Paper Mario an RPG series again.
Pourin one out for my man Ryota Kawade.
Remember the good times...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-cdNgezswM
It's a great interview tbh, despite not changing everything that's "wrong" with the game. The questions were spot on and some left me quite optimistic about this game.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Except the game actively makes experimenting a bad thing.
Unless you like forking over a bunch of coins or backtracking every time you use an important thing at the wrong place, and turns out you needed it later.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
If it bombs, Nintendo will view it as there being a "lack of interest" in the franchise.
They've stripped out a lot of the RPG mechanics and unique characters.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Yep. Nintendo isn't willing to entertain the idea that a game flopped because they failed.
MrSaturn99
Member
So conflicted. Everything I heard about Sticker Star made me skip it, but this looks so charming and hilarious in every way...except for how it plays.
Getting some severe SS Iwata Asks flashbacks here.
Ash of GameXplain also reported the following on Twitter:
Getting some severe SS Iwata Asks flashbacks here.
Ash of GameXplain also reported the following on Twitter:
Youtube comments are horrific as usual.
"Why didn't you kill her when you had the chance?"
Fuck. Me.
I'm hoping that they did understand those complaints and made it a lot more clear as to what you're supposed to be looking for in order to counter the boss's gimmick. The big goomba boss in Sticker Star that you meet early on gives zero indication that you're supposed to use a fan on him to blow away all of the other goombas that comprise him. With the boss fight they showed today, Morton set his mallet on fire, so it makes perfect sense to use the fire extinguisher to put it out.
Did they get rid of the party members and stuff from the old games? :/
That's what killed Sticker Star for me. Completely baffling design decision that makes no sense.
This game is missing the absolute basics of rewarding RPG design.
Sure did.
Captain Europe
Member
Battles aren't pointless this time though, there's special paint that you can pick up after a battle, which gives some sort of XP on the bar next to the paint bar.
Green Mamba
Member
Lol.
Unsurprisingly, the game is as shit as it originally looked. Get bent, IS.
Unsurprisingly, the game is as shit as it originally looked. Get bent, IS.
Lmao, I can see why people are so mad then smh.
The GX comment on Paper Mario moving on in a different direction is stated by the producer in the video interview, it seems like they're really set on this idea for whatever reason. The only way I can see them going back on this decision is if they end up remastering the originals (they bring this up in the interview) and those end up being really successful, which wouldn't surprise me in any way.
LucidMomentum
Member
Man, The Thousand Year Door was my GOAT RPG as a kid.
Why they gotta do me like this?
Why they gotta do me like this?
A Link to the Past
Banned
Here's my question
If they don't want to make it an RPG, why even bother with the RPG gameplay? Just make it an adventure game where you fight enemies on the overworld and use the touchscreen to equip stickers and place them on the overworld. Seriously, they could make an actually fantastic game where you're running around, dodging attacks (imagine fighting Hooktail in real time), and trying to aim your attacks. They could make a really great game. I literally have no clue why they think RPG conventions are even necessary if they don't want PM to be considered an RPG.
If they don't want to make it an RPG, why even bother with the RPG gameplay? Just make it an adventure game where you fight enemies on the overworld and use the touchscreen to equip stickers and place them on the overworld. Seriously, they could make an actually fantastic game where you're running around, dodging attacks (imagine fighting Hooktail in real time), and trying to aim your attacks. They could make a really great game. I literally have no clue why they think RPG conventions are even necessary if they don't want PM to be considered an RPG.
Some interesting stuff in this interview.
Nice to see that battling lets you upgrade the maximum amount of paint your hammer can hold, hopefully that will encourage players to battle more.
Also surprised to see the M&L series mentioned as part of why the PM series has moved away from traditional RPG elements. I see that thrown around a lot but I always thought it couldn't be true since both series has co existed for a while just fine, but huh, I guess that may indeed be playing a part in things. Very interesting......