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[TheAdmiester]

I find Microsoft's focus on 4K frankly idiotic. 6TF is only going to get you 30fps at 4K with current graphics. Maybe.

4K60 can absolutely happen with 6 teraflops. Remember that graphical options are a thing.

 

[FacelessSamurai]

That's what I thought. I could have sworn they had previously said, "It's up to the devs," before.

To use 4k or go with lower resolution with more effects is what is up to developers, but games will run on all consoles.

 

[Bsigg12]

Hey guys, are these guest sessions put up on youtube?

Missed the beginning of Phils session

Someone will probably pull it out but luckily this is the first thing so you'll be able scrub past the break screen to this pretty easily.

 

[gamz]

REALLY like what I'm hearing from Phil. Sounds like he's finally able to shift xbox in the direction he thinks it should go.

Same. He's been great.

 

[Armadilo]

console 60FPS, the dream is dead.. only hope is what happens when they only have a 1080p

 

[Lijik]

i hope they stick with the scorpio name just so i can keep hearing jeff do that grizzled bounty hunter voice

 

[cb1115]

I find Microsoft's focus on 4K frankly idiotic. 6TF is only going to get you 30fps at 4K with current graphics. Maybe.

maybe the CPU is a tiny rocket ship

 

[SmackAttack]

Chat works, voice.

Nice.

 

[Aarglefarg]

I am glad to hear from the podcast that Jeff G likes Dragon Quest Builders. Between this, and Jason liking Dragon Quest Heroes, the reactions are pleasant surprises to a DQ fan like me.

 

[Curufinwe]

console 60FPS, the dream is dead.. only hope is what happens when they only have a 1080p

Well the VR games have to run at at least that or people will literally be sick.

 

[Death Metalist]

lmao.

 

[Myggen]

Hey guys, are these guest sessions put up on youtube?

Missed the beginning of Phils session

They are, on GB's channel. But you can scrub back in the live player right now on both the site and on YT.

 

[razgriz417]

Ok, that was awesome phil

 

[Sou Da]

BURYING GFWL

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Phil is saying some good shit, but I want them to push him on the PC stuff and how lacking W10 is for games right now.

 

[VinFTW]

Thanks GiantBros.

 

[Death Metalist]

Shots fired.

 

[BUNTING1243]

Games for Windows Live: "I lived through that."

 

[Htown]

this is a good interview

 

[Volotaire]

Haha.

 

[Tagyhag]

It's really weird that they are pushing 4K so much. It's like they are using it as a buzz word to describe the power difference. I would assume most devs are going to aim for 1080p 60fps?

Like are games going to have straight up better textures and visual effects? Because that's something that Microsoft has to allow them to do.

You are actually correct.

4K is the future either way. It will be the new standard just like when HD took over SD.

Maybe in 10 more years it'll be 8K but for the foreseeable future it'll be all about the 4K.

MS knows it'll look reaaaal good when they advertise 4K gaming to people who are buying new 4K TV's. They're still pretty expensive, but they've gone way down, and by Winter 2017 they'll be even cheaper.

They're basically hoping to beat Sony to the punch, and then try to keep people by not only keeping ahead of them technologically, but trying to tie them into their ecosystem so leaving them will hurt.

Whether this gamble pays off with how ahead Sony is in sales remains to be seen.

 

[Dizzy-4U]

lol that quantum break burn

 

[Myggen]

Lol Jeff.

 

[sikkinixx]

Phil's a great speaker. really enjoying his thoughts on the Xbox business. I still don't quite get their business plan five years from now.

 

[Milennia]

Phil is awesome

 

[LukeSkywater]

I bought Eternal Sonata during the sale some weeks back. Waiting for that to go BC so I can play it on a system that doesn't sound like a jet engine. Love my 360 tho.

On topic, if I play Gear 4 on my One with a friend playing on PC, how does chat work? Likely noob question, I know.

Would love to be able to play my copies of Tales of Vesperia, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, and The Last Remnant on my XB1

 

[BRocknRolla]

Oh shit. That's hilarious.

 

[SmackAttack]

Quantum Break was awesome. You defend that game, Phil!

 

[EnlightenedMint]

I am glad to hear from the podcast that Jeff G likes Dragon Quest Builders. Between this, and Jason liking Dragon Quest Heroes, the reactions are pleasant surprises to a DQ fan like me.

The 8-4 guys gushed about it on their podcast as well, seems promising.

 

[gamz]

Phil is killing it.

 

[jett]

It sounds like that's what they want. HEaring them boast about how much more powerful Serpico was than the Xbox One, I imagined it was basically going to be the Xbox Two, but it sounds more like all that power is simply to get existing games to run in 4K, which makes me wonder how much of a difference that will make to the average consumer?

Business-wise they clearly think that's a selling point, but I can't see how the average consumer is going to care about 4K. Gameplay-wise focusing on higher framerates would be much more appealing to me personally. Focusing on 4K seems heavily misguided to me, especially with the hardware they got. 6TF seems a lot, but for 4K it's meager, and equivalent PC hardware really struggles..

 

[Bsigg12]

This has been a fantastic interview.

 

[EnlightenedMint]

Phil comes off as really genuine, always enjoy seeing him on the show.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

He's out of the stumble and bumble part of the interview. Much smoother now that he ain't having to juggle.

Phil is saying some good shit, but I want them to push him on the PC stuff and how lacking W10 is for games right now.

Or why UWA/UWP is built with unnecessary console software restrictions.

 

[Volotaire]

Interesting perspective of characterising Groups as a governance structure.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Phil comes off as really genuine, always enjoy seeing him on the show.

He's very humble, you can tell he's the kind that actually plays and cares about what his company puts out. Whenever he's in an interview he seems like just another guy than a CEO/bossguy.

 

[Dylan]

The stuff he's talking about now, with facilitating communication between like-minded people, is one of the hugest issues I've been waiting to be addressed by a platform holder. Sounds promising, I hope it pans out.

 

[Myggen]

Interesting perspective of characterising Groups as a governance structure.

Heh, yeah.

 

[mephixto]

4K60 can absolutely happen with 6 teraflops. Remember that graphical options are a thing.

If you keep turning things off or lowering options at certain point it's gonna look worst than something working at 1080@60fps max settings. Great I'm running XYZ game at 4K60fps on my Xbox Scorpio but it's looks like poo compared to my XYZ game on PS4 Neo at 1080p@60fps.

 

[Megasoum]

OMG Griffin is already a fan of Lockdown!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGsrFR3oKFq/

 

[SmackAttack]

Groups will have moderators?

 

[def sim]

OMG Griffin is already a fan of Lockdown!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGsrFR3oKFq/

hah aw

 

[Demption]

Was staff impressions good?

 

[FordGTGuy]

Or why UWA/UWP is built with unnecessary console software restrictions.

There is difference with enforced restrictions and restrictions because the platform hasn't completely matured yet.

Microsoft isn't purposely going out of their way for you to not have g-sync but they are working on implementing it.

 

[loki 16]

Everybody loves destiny!

 

[Sou Da]

Immediate laugh followed by regret from Brad about Destiny.

 

[Death Metalist]

Did the Jenga collapse?

 

[TheAdmiester]

If you keep turning things off or lowering options at certain point it's gonna look worst than something working at 1080@60fps max settings.

It's not even to a certain point really. On a 5.6TF card I can already get 4K60 on Forza at max settings (ie. very well-made games will run and look great at 4K on console), and GTA 5 runs at 40FPS at 4K max settings. If I turn down a few settings that aren't even ultimately noticeable like grass density and reflection MSAA I can get 60 in that too.

 

[Myggen]

Groups will have moderators?

He said you could go that route with private groups.

 

[sikkinixx]

Giant bomb is really killing it so far this year. Last night was stellar and this is shaping up to be just as good.