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Meh. It is what it is. I've been using online dating as too much of a crutch lately, I need to build up some confidence and ask out people in the real world. I know it's a high risk of ejection, but I hardly see these friends much anyways, so it's worh a shot.

Loving this new found confidence.

Don't get demotivated/disheartened if it's a no. Apply that confidence to other encounters and you'll quickly find it works out well. Each potential no is just bringing you closer the right person...
 
I'm actually seriously thinking about seeing an escort just to get laid tbh. Can't believe I'm doing this. Escorting is legal here (well everything except brothels and the real shady parts are legal) and I've found a pretty legit girl who does some escorting on the side because she enjoys casual sex after doing a decent amount of research into this in the 'punter' forums to find someone appropriate who does this because she wants to (girl is even a regular poster on the biggest one), so my ethical worries are pretty much not an issue here at all. The GAF thread on 'late virginity loss' got me thinking that it isn't necessarily such a bad thing to do, and if anything it will help me figure out that it's not A Big Fucking Deal after all. I just want to stop bothering about virginity anymore. Am I making a huge mistake here? I don't intend on paying for it any more than once or twice. Much rather meet a girl who's really into me.
 
Meh. It is what it is. I've been using online dating as too much of a crutch lately, I need to build up some confidence and ask out people in the real world. I know it's a high risk of ejection, but I hardly see these friends much anyways, so it's worh a shot.

Great! That confidence will translate into being more laid back on dates and help you out a lot. I'm pretty cool on first dates nowadays, just because I've been on so many that it ain't no thang anymore. Only one way to get to that, and it's to keep doing it until it seems easy.
 
So... How I stop a girl from calling me honey/hun? And is inviting a girl for a soda after Ramadan definitely a date?

I don't know where else to ask this. I don't know if it's mere endearment or not. I don't want to say "by the way, I don't fancy you".

She awesome and pretty, just trying to be friends only.
What's this to do with the month of Ramadan? Sorry, don't know the context. That could be a date if it's just you two.
UGH.

So this week I went to E3, and attended one of the after parties. There I met this smokin' hot redhead gamer and had a pretty nice rapport going. She was incredibly sweet and friendly, and seemed pretty engaged overall. Things were goings swimmingly until her douche friend interrupted our conversation so that he could tell her he just spoke with someone that she had to check out.

At that point I thought it was over, but there was a tiny bit of hope left when she asked if I wanted to join her. Obviously I said yes and went to check out what the hubbub was about. Unfortunately, 5 minutes douchebag tells her that they had to go, and that was the end of that.

Now, I'm not saying that this was a slam dunk. I mean, she could have just been one of those naturally friendly, bubbly type girls. But since homeboy interfered, I'll never know for sure.

Oddly enough, this makes this the third E3 where I've been cockblocked.
On the fourth E3, get the number lol.
 
I'm actually seriously thinking about seeing an escort just to get laid tbh. Can't believe I'm doing this. Escorting is legal here (well everything except brothels and the real shady parts are legal) and I've found a pretty legit girl who does some escorting on the side because she enjoys casual sex after doing a decent amount of research into this in the 'punter' forums to find someone appropriate who does this because she wants to (girl is even a regular poster on the biggest one), so my ethical worries are pretty much not an issue here at all. The GAF thread on 'late virginity loss' got me thinking that it isn't necessarily such a bad thing to do, and if anything it will help me figure out that it's not A Big Fucking Deal after all. I just want to stop bothering about virginity anymore. Am I making a huge mistake here? I don't intend on paying for it any more than once or twice. Much rather meet a girl who's really into me.

Having sex with escort isn't suddenly going to make sex any less of a big deal. In fact it will probably have the opposite effect...

So I'd advise you do the bold

The problem is you're coming off desperate in this post and that's undoubtedly translating into your interactions with other people. Don't put so much of a focus on the sexual side of dating, focus on meeting people, going out and having fun, the sexual side will take care of itself once you reach a point where that's not all that's on your mind.

But you do you man. Do what you feel is best. I don't know if that kind of decision should be asked of anyone else but yourself.
 
What's this to do with the month of Ramadan? Sorry, don't know the context. That could be a date if it's just you two.

She might want to sit next to him...or maybe even hold his hand!

Seriously though, pretty sure dating, etc are all permitted during Ramadan. Not being a Muslim though I don't know the finer details, just what I pick up from Muslim friends.
 
I'm actually seriously thinking about seeing an escort just to get laid tbh. Can't believe I'm doing this. Escorting is legal here (well everything except brothels and the real shady parts are legal) and I've found a pretty legit girl who does some escorting on the side because she enjoys casual sex after doing a decent amount of research into this in the 'punter' forums to find someone appropriate who does this because she wants to (girl is even a regular poster on the biggest one), so my ethical worries are pretty much not an issue here at all. The GAF thread on 'late virginity loss' got me thinking that it isn't necessarily such a bad thing to do, and if anything it will help me figure out that it's not A Big Fucking Deal after all. I just want to stop bothering about virginity anymore. Am I making a huge mistake here? I don't intend on paying for it any more than once or twice. Much rather meet a girl who's really into me.

I recommend that you go for it, though from what I've read of your trials and tribulations I'd expect you to do it more than once or twice because when the escort acts like she is into you (and she will) you'll get attached.

I disagree with you Miles, especially for this guy. He's so hung up on his virginity I think it'' hopefully chill him out a bit. Sure it might make sex even more of a big deal for him, but at least he won't be trippin' all the time about his lack of experience.

RP, after your experience let us know how it was.
 
So now on my 3rd "attractive girl who I have a lot in common with who ghosts me right as we start talking about meeting up".

We persevere.

Your post made me think "why don't I get ghosted/stood up"? Then I remembered that I do, fairly often. I just have so many feelers out there that a few ghosts doesn't break my stride. Have you been on a date yet with anyone? How many girls are you talking to? Are you only going out with attractive women who are into the same things you are? That might be a mistake - the things in common isn't necessarily a big deal.
 
Okay, so here's the deal. Your thought process is unattractive.

No matter how many great pictures you take, how many matches you get online, or how well you might hit it off with someone in the beginning, the thought process from the above post is what's holding you back. Right now, you're thinking and acting from a place of uncertainty and insecurity, and I wouldn't be surprised if you're unknowingly letting it manifest to a vibe women feel around you when they're with you in person.

When it comes to dating, the one thing you absolutely must become comfortable with is that everything doesn't always play out in black and white. What's more, you have to become comfortable with the 'not knowing.'

The minute you start trying to analyze, theorize, or create outlandish scenarios in your head, you're doing yourself a huge emotional disservice because it's causing you to develop early attachments to people that haven't even decided what they think about you yet. Even if that attachment isn't on a romantic, "have to have her" kind of way, you're still letting that person run laps around your mind. That's probably why you're analyzing calls and texts (or the lack thereof) with a fine-toothed comb, and why seeing women you used to talk to out with other men affects you.

That's also why you were dubbed as clingy, too.

In the early goings, especially with online dating, women don't owe you anything. They have lives, become busy, work, spend time with friends/family, and yes... they also go on dates with other men -- even if they're talking to you, dated you already, or still talk to you after the date. Now look, I'm sure you probably read that and thought "well, no shit." After all, nothing I said was mind-blowing about how women live their lives. However, those "well, no shit" points seems to become lost on you once you aren't getting the validation you want.

Ultimately, try to whittle your dating life into a more simplistic, easy-peasy form in your mind. Here's some examples:

  • Dude, it's just words in a chat bubble. Relax.
  • So what if she found someone else? Just means there's something better out there for me.
  • If she doesn't respond, no big deal. I'd rather focus on women that really are interested.
  • I'm not going to make excuses for her just because I like her. Couldn't hurt to get my name right.
  • I'm fine regardless.

Hope some of this stuff can be helpful, man.

Thanks, it makes a lot of sense, I know I am very insecure.

One thing that I don't really understand though... if you're not feeling attached to someone, how do you find the interest to date them? I mean I don't really feel the need to date a random person, it's kind of a repulsive thought to me.
 
Thanks, it makes a lot of sense, I know I am very insecure.

One thing that I don't really understand though... if you're not feeling attached to someone, how do you find the interest to date them? I mean I don't really feel the need to date a random person, it's kind of a repulsive thought to me.

There's a wide breadth between "random" and "attached," man. Maybe thats your problem. Dating is part of the "get attached" process where you go from someone you're interested in to someone you know more about. You want to be attached before you even date them? That's exactly your problem.
 
Great! That confidence will translate into being more laid back on dates and help you out a lot. I'm pretty cool on first dates nowadays, just because I've been on so many that it ain't no thang anymore. Only one way to get to that, and it's to keep doing it until it seems easy.


She replied with "sure that sounds like fun. I'm down with whatever"
 
Not sure if GAF is the best place for an answer to this, but I've wondered something for a while ever since I got Tinder. I've seen some examples on r/tinder and other places of people messaging sort of "let's skip the formalities", which I get, it's an app for hooking up. I'm just confused by how an actual meet-up unfolds after such an agreement?

When I've gone home with girls it has usually involved either drunkenly talking to them for 1 hour+, or gradually going from acquaintances to deciding to watch a movie or whatever, but the "directness" of such a Tinder-convo is fascinating to me. Do you just show up on their doorstep and jump in bed immediately? Share a drink while you both have a mutual understanding that you will be sleeping together in 10 minutes?

I mean, you can have that mutual understanding after a night at a bar as well, but it's less... pronounced?
 
Went out with friends last night and a buddy of mine were playing wingman for a third guy we didn't know very well. I wasn't really providing much value here, because I absolutely didn't care about meeting anyone and just plain wasn't interested, but man -- my friend oozes charisma and gives absolutely zero fucks. He's also short and not all that built, though he's conventionally bro-y attractive. Still, it's poetry in motion. It also gets easier each time you do it, even if I was chatting up a girl whose face and personality I don't even care to remember.

I can't imagine going back into the dating world. Godspeed, everyone.

On the other hand, if I used Tinder (which I don't and won't), I have the greatest opener: I'm going tandem skydiving the second week of July for the first time and need a partner.
 
I recommend that you go for it, though from what I've read of your trials and tribulations I'd expect you to do it more than once or twice because when the escort acts like she is into you (and she will) you'll get attached.

I disagree with you Miles, especially for this guy. He's so hung up on his virginity I think it'' hopefully chill him out a bit. Sure it might make sex even more of a big deal for him, but at least he won't be trippin' all the time about his lack of experience.

RP, after your experience let us know how it was.

Fair point. I do agree he's fixated on it and maybe losing it will allow him to move forward and actually be able to date without that cloud hanging over his head.

I just don't know about the method. At least go one of those escorts who pretend to be yout girlfriend or some shit rather than just someone from a card found in a telephone box...
 
Nah, it's not one of those random dodgy cards from a telephone box, lol, did my research on this and I get good vibes based on the 'punter' forums which quite a few escort girls frequent as well and post on, interestingly enough. Don't think I want to be one of those guys who just keep fucking escorts because it's easier than dating or something. I notice a lot of 'punters' are just normal people who 'don't have time' to date or can't be bothered to make the effort or something, instead of being sad and lonely people (like me, ayyy!). Part of me feels bad for even considering this because it's 'admitting defeat' or something and visiting escorts is the sign of a sad and lonely person (stereotypically). But if anything, this might be fun to try once. At least I can make my bastard brain focus on more important shit afterwards if I went through with it.
 
Nah, it's not one of those random dodgy cards from a telephone box, lol, did my research on this and I get good vibes based on the 'punter' forums which quite a few escort girls frequent as well and post on, interestingly enough. Don't think I want to be one of those guys who just keep fucking escorts because it's easier than dating or something. I notice a lot of 'punters' are just normal people who 'don't have time' to date or can't be bothered to make the effort or something, instead of being sad and lonely people (like me, ayyy!). Part of me feels bad for even considering this because it's 'admitting defeat' or something.

If you're going to do it (happy to hear some level of research has gone into it), don't do with that frame of mind.

It's not admitting defeat or anything of the sort. You're doing it for the sake of your mental health and sexual maturity. Do it with a mentality that once it's done, you'll feel more confident and hopefully be able to approach dating with a more relaxed attitude.

Good luck and report back. That might sound seedy, but don't leave us hanging...
 
After messaging her on fb, she ask if I want her number "it's easier to chat that way.". We set up a date for Wednesday night. She seems pretty cool so far. She works at the local zoo, she's big into marvel stuff, Star Wars, horror, and cosplaying.
 
After messaging her on fb, she ask if I want her number "it's easier to chat that way.". We set up a date for Wednesday night. She seems pretty cool so far. She works at the local zoo, she's big into marvel stuff, Star Wars, horror, and cosplaying.
Nice work man. Seems promising.
 
Not sure if GAF is the best place for an answer to this, but I've wondered something for a while ever since I got Tinder. I've seen some examples on r/tinder and other places of people messaging sort of "let's skip the formalities", which I get, it's an app for hooking up. I'm just confused by how an actual meet-up unfolds after such an agreement?

When I've gone home with girls it has usually involved either drunkenly talking to them for 1 hour+, or gradually going from acquaintances to deciding to watch a movie or whatever, but the "directness" of such a Tinder-convo is fascinating to me. Do you just show up on their doorstep and jump in bed immediately? Share a drink while you both have a mutual understanding that you will be sleeping together in 10 minutes?

I mean, you can have that mutual understanding after a night at a bar as well, but it's less... pronounced?

You'll know it when it happens. Doesn't really happen for me on Tinder - I think that most people don't see it like that anymore. Generally that will be a date/meetup which could lead to something, but it isn't a "let's meet for sex" app like it's rumored to be. Though maybe I'm just using it wrong.

In other apps, it's just been veiled language like meeting at your place to watch something or just hang out. That leads to more almost instantly.
 
After messaging her on fb, she ask if I want her number "it's easier to chat that way.". We set up a date for Wednesday night. She seems pretty cool so far. She works at the local zoo, she's big into marvel stuff, Star Wars, horror, and cosplaying.
As soon as you get her number, send her this:

Ok fine, so stay calm and listen to Me and you answer my questions Exatement as it has been laid Ok?

I swear if you made a bétisse I'm very hurt you rotten life then remains quiet and listens to me.
 
Thanks, it makes a lot of sense, I know I am very insecure.

One thing that I don't really understand though... if you're not feeling attached to someone, how do you find the interest to date them? I mean I don't really feel the need to date a random person, it's kind of a repulsive thought to me.

Great question, man!

At it's core, the dating process revolves around two all-important things -- discovery and potential. Now, here's why I'm saying that out of the gate.

When you first match with someone online, the only materials you have to work with are a couple of hand-picked pictures, a bio, and depending on the service you're using, some sort of questionnaire section that gives you a little more insight into the specifics of the woman. Chances are, you're obviously physically attracted to the girl, found a few common denominators in her bio, and picked up on a few things in your text exchanges that furthered your interest.

The reason why I italicized the word 'interest' earlier is because it's important to remember that at a fundamental level, what you're feeling is an interest in finding out more about her. You are not supposed to know whether the two of you are a good fit for each other yet, but you have seen and heard enough to have developed a willingness to find out. No more, and no less. That's when the first date happens.

From there, it's all about the elements of discovery and potential. You've made the choice to spend your valuable time with this person to discover more about who she is, how she engages with you, and if there's a possible naturally mutual connection that can form between you.

It's at this stage of dating where your initial issue of overthinking and insecurities ensued. You had a fine time with a woman, got the impression that she had a good time as well, and might have an opportunity to get together again if she's interested in getting more face-time with you. But, that insecure side of you yelled over your logical side, which triggered the detective work you were doing. Because you couldn't quite make heads or tails, you ran your mind into the ground trying to piece things together because you already decided you really wanted her. Snip all of that stuff out, cool your feel-jets, and dial yourself back to place of passive, but purposeful curiosity again.

If you keep that up, you'll start looking at her with the intent of seeing potential. What kind of potential? That potential usually starts off simple, with you seeing enough potential in her (based on your criteria, which I'll touch on in a moment) to be open to another date. Then, later on down the line, that potential might even shift into something deeper. That's when you start looking at her through the lens of 'relationship material' by way of the feelings you've each developed throughout the course of the dating process. How will you know if she has feelings for you? Don't worry. She'll tell you and show you.

That said, what I get the sense is happening with you is two-fold. You seem to have developed a misgiving about what being interested in a woman should mean during the dating process -- especially in the early goings. And secondly, you are far too focused whether you're on the cusp of being approved or rejected, when you should really be focused on letting your curiosity and subsequent discoveries determine whether those women are a good fit for you.

Let me let you in on a little secret. You're in control. You have the power to choose a woman that meets or exceeds your expectations. You can be selective. You can have criteria. You can let them get closer to you if they fit your tastes, or you can even break ties with them if they don't suit you quite right. You don't need to let yourself get strung along by anyone that isn't showing the same level of curiosity that you're showing them. You don't need to shrug off the fact that a girl can't remember your name, either. And best of all, you can live by those terms without having to adopt an arrogant or self-centered persona. You can still be yourself!

So, stop dwelling on whether you're what they want and if they like you, and start being an centered, modest, and upbeat advocate for yourself. You'll be surprised at the results, even if the results take time.

You don't have to arrive at a conclusion about someone after a few dates and a few text exchanges, only to play the waiting game until the girl feels the same way. Don't rush your way through it because you're lonely, and don't overanalyze because the answers aren't spelled out for you right away. Take your time, feel things out, have fun with it, and let the answers you seek regarding her interest come to you naturally. Remain curious to learn more about her to see if she meets your criteria, but only if you want to. Remember, this isn't just about her. It's your life, too.

Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with, my friend.
 
I'm jealous of that friend zone dude from that thread.

Enough of this nonsense. You post all the time about becoming friends in a DATING thread, you use DATING apps to try to find friends, and you don't seem to actually TELL these women that friendship is all you're looking for. What's your deal?

Finding female friends isn't difficult. But posting about it in here all the time just seems like you want attention. The post I quoted isn't a question, it has no room for discussion. Start a thread about finding friends of the opposite sex, if that's the discussion you want to have.
 
Gah I'm so frustrated with this social worker girl but all the same, I really like her.

I sent her a text this afternoon and never heard back but it's not the first time it's happened between us. Usually I get something the next day like "Just saw this". I'm gonna try and see if she wants to do our Bar Trivia night again this Tuesday.

I think I'm frustrated because I wanted to see her again before my vacation was over but now it's back to work and I'm just gonna have to make this work when it can.
 
Well Idk if anyone remembers my last/basically first post but uh things didn't go so "swell". She's in a relationship with someone else now and well, I'm just sad she couldn't be honest with me even when I asked her to be. And this is after she said she didn't want to be in a relationship anyway because she had too much on her plate.

I thought we were very close friends, I guess not.

Anyhoo, I'm on Tinder and a few other dating platforms, guess I'll update if I actually get successful. I'm not as down as I thought I'd be about all this, but I've really gotten better mentally this past year so it kind of feels nice to not be a wreck about this.
 
Just wear a wedding band if you're that desperate to fend off women throwing themselves at you.

Enough of this nonsense. You post all the time about becoming friends in a DATING thread, you use DATING apps to try to find friends, and you don't seem to actually TELL these women that friendship is all you're looking for. What's your deal?

Finding female friends isn't difficult. But posting about it in here all the time just seems like you want attention. The post I quoted isn't a question, it has no room for discussion. Start a thread about finding friends of the opposite sex, if that's the discussion you want to have.

Damn.

Although I tend to agree. It's really not that hard to find friends of the opposite sex and it's not that hard to make your intentions clear from the outset either.

What I feel is happening is that the Cobalt likes the attention he's getting from those women and is worried that by defining the relationship as purely platonic, that attention will disappear as the other party might decide it's not worth their time and move on. That's really the only conclusion I can come to for someone who wants female friends but refuses to actually say anything to them to make it happen.
 
Great question, man!

At it's core, the dating process revolves around two all-important things -- discovery and potential. Now, here's why I'm saying that out of the gate.

When you first match with someone online, the only materials you have to work with are a couple of hand-picked pictures, a bio, and depending on the service you're using, some sort of questionnaire section that gives you a little more insight into the specifics of the woman. Chances are, you're obviously physically attracted to the girl, found a few common denominators in her bio, and picked up on a few things in your text exchanges that furthered your interest.

The reason why I italicized the word 'interest' earlier is because it's important to remember that at a fundamental level, what you're feeling is an interest in finding out more about her. You are not supposed to know whether the two of you are a good fit for each other yet, but you have seen and heard enough to have developed a willingness to find out. No more, and no less. That's when the first date happens.

From there, it's all about the elements of discovery and potential. You've made the choice to spend your valuable time with this person to discover more about who she is, how she engages with you, and if there's a possible naturally mutual connection that can form between you.

It's at this stage of dating where your initial issue of overthinking and insecurities ensued. You had a fine time with a woman, got the impression that she had a good time as well, and might have an opportunity to get together again if she's interested in getting more face-time with you. But, that insecure side of you yelled over your logical side, which triggered the detective work you were doing. Because you couldn't quite make heads or tails, you ran your mind into the ground trying to piece things together because you already decided you really wanted her. Snip all of that stuff out, cool your feel-jets, and dial yourself back to place of passive, but purposeful curiosity again.

If you keep that up, you'll start looking at her with the intent of seeing potential. What kind of potential? That potential usually starts off simple, with you seeing enough potential in her (based on your criteria, which I'll touch on in a moment) to be open to another date. Then, later on down the line, that potential might even shift into something deeper. That's when you start looking at her through the lens of 'relationship material' by way of the feelings you've each developed throughout the course of the dating process. How will you know if she has feelings for you? Don't worry. She'll tell you and show you.

That said, what I get the sense is happening with you is two-fold. You seem to have developed a misgiving about what being interested in a woman should mean during the dating process -- especially in the early goings. And secondly, you are far too focused whether you're on the cusp of being approved or rejected, when you should really be focused on letting your curiosity and subsequent discoveries determine whether those women are a good fit for you.

Let me let you in on a little secret. You're in control. You have the power to choose a woman that meets or exceeds your expectations. You can be selective. You can have criteria. You can let them get closer to you if they fit your tastes, or you can even break ties with them if they don't suit you quite right. You don't need to let yourself get strung along by anyone that isn't showing the same level of curiosity that you're showing them. You don't need to shrug off the fact that a girl can't remember your name, either. And best of all, you can live by those terms without having to adopt an arrogant or self-centered persona. You can still be yourself!

So, stop dwelling on whether you're what they want and if they like you, and start being an centered, modest, and upbeat advocate for yourself. You'll be surprised at the results, even if the results take time.

You don't have to arrive at a conclusion about someone after a few dates and a few text exchanges, only to play the waiting game until the girl feels the same way. Don't rush your way through it because you're lonely, and don't overanalyze because the answers aren't spelled out for you right away. Take your time, feel things out, have fun with it, and let the answers you seek regarding her interest come to you naturally. Remain curious to learn more about her to see if she meets your criteria, but only if you want to. Remember, this isn't just about her. It's your life, too.

Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with, my friend.

This should be in the OP.

Good work, Rez.
 
Well Idk if anyone remembers my last/basically first post but uh things didn't go so "swell". She's in a relationship with someone else now and well, I'm just sad she couldn't be honest with me even when I asked her to be. And this is after she said she didn't want to be in a relationship anyway because she had too much on her plate.

I thought we were very close friends, I guess not.

Anyhoo, I'm on Tinder and a few other dating platforms, guess I'll update if I actually get successful. I'm not as down as I thought I'd be about all this, but I've really gotten better mentally this past year so it kind of feels nice to not be a wreck about this.

That's never, ever true in my experience.

She just didn't want to be in a relationship with you but it sounds like you're taking it well, maybe you knew deep down that you weren't really close friends...
 
Damn.

Although I tend to agree. It's really not that hard to find friends of the opposite sex and it's not that hard to make your intentions clear from the outset either.

What I feel is happening is that the Cobalt likes the attention he's getting from those women and is worried that by defining the relationship as purely platonic, that attention will disappear as the other party might decide it's not worth their time and move on. That's really the only conclusion I can come to for someone who wants female friends but refuses to actually say anything to them to make it happen.

That's exactly it really. When people are attracted to you, they more friendly. When not, it becomes very hard to be close friends. I constantly changed schools and move. Last person I asked about, the moment I suggested friends, radio silence. It sucks.

Anyway at least the person I'm going to date with today I'm interested in.
 
That's exactly it really. When people are attracted to you, they more friendly. When not, it becomes very hard to be close friends. I constantly changed schools and move. Last person I asked about, the moment I suggested friends, radio silence. It sucks.

Anyway at least the person I'm going to date with today I'm interested in.

That doesn't make any sense. Don't you think it's because you're starting the relationship with the expectation of a romantic relationship, and then pulling the rug out from under them? You need to engage in things that friends/non-dates do, rather than dating apps, which are generally for dating. When you invite a girl to watch Inside Out with you at your place, she's going to assume you want to get busy. So you need to establish friendship FIRST, rather than lure them in with dating.
 
That doesn't make any sense. Don't you think it's because you're starting the relationship with the expectation of a romantic relationship, and then pulling the rug out from under them? You need to engage in things that friends/non-dates do, rather than dating apps, which are generally for dating. When you invite a girl to watch Inside Out with you at your place, she's going to assume you want to get busy. So you need to establish friendship FIRST, rather than lure them in with dating.

Actually, more often then not, I'm just being polite and inviting to things. I've learnt my lesson though, it's always assumed to be a date.

Single people tend to want to date. Taken people don't tend to need new friends.
 
Actually, more often then not, I'm just being polite and inviting to things. I've learnt my lesson though, it's always assumed to be a date.

Single people tend to want to date. Taken people don't tend to need new friends.

You just seem to be making the act of finding friends into a Herculean task, which it most certainly is not, if you go about it the right way. I don't get it. Aren't you in school? I made a ton of female friends while I was in school, and had no intention of dating them. Maybe you're just not sociable (in a friendly way)? What do you think is the issue?
 
Needless to say, the date did not happen. First she meant to only watch the parade from the sidewalk because she was tired. When I asked for her location, she was suddenly on one of the party trucks. Instead of telling me her location, she kept saying that she was looking for me. And now she wrote that she went home, and she's asking whether I had fun today.
Oh, and at some point she started to use the word "we", so someone was with her anyway. So she didn't even consider it a date.

Minor correction: She asked how the pride had been for me. I was bitter as hell, so all I replied was: "Waste of time."

Now, two days later, she answered again, asking why I feel that way. Now I'm not sure whether to
a) ignore her and drop communication for good
b) tell her how shitty her behavior was without holding back, because I'm really, really bitter
c) politely explain my feelings about how that day went. Without sugarcoating, of course.

I guess c) followed by dropping communication would be the best course of action.
 
Minor correction: She asked how the pride had been for me. I was bitter as hell, so all I replied was: "Waste of time."

Now, two days later, she answered again, asking why I feel that way. Now I'm not sure whether to
a) ignore her and drop communication for good
b) tell her how shitty her behavior was without holding back, because I'm really, really bitter
c) politely explain my feelings about how that day went. Without sugarcoating, of course.

I guess c) followed by dropping communication would be the best course of action.

A. Move on, don't do B and C gives her the attention she's clearly craving because you will feel the urge to reply to her open ended reply.

Seriously, don't do B. There's no need for it. You might be angry but channel it through here if you need to get out of your system, just don't send an angry message.
 
A. Move on, don't do B and C gives her the attention she's clearly craving because you will feel the urge to reply to her open ended reply.

Seriously, don't do B. There's no need for it. You might be angry but channel it through here if you need to get out of your system, just don't send an angry message.

Yeah. I was just listing possible options.
 
A.

If you plan on dropping communication there's no point in doing B or C. She isn't gonna suddenly apologize for her behaviour and ask you out on a new date after a message like that.

Why put effort into typing a message to someone you never want to see again? Why even put thought into this person who stood you up and lied to you?
 
Yeah, I agree with A. From reading your prev posts, she did not respect you or your time, but didn't mind stringing you along because she liked the attention.

Take this as a good lesson in not putting up with BS behavior.
 
A few months ago I was this close to telling this girl I had a crush on her for almost 6 months after hearing that those feelings were mutual. ( I probably never saw signs she was into me ). Unfortunately, by then she had already gotten into a relationship. I kicked myself for not acting faster but went on with my life. During this time, we basically stopped having contact. This was around November.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago and we started talking again. This started off with just some talk about school stuff, but now it's back to talking a few times a day about personal or school related things. That connection we seemed to have last year is definitely still there. The main issue is, those feelings I thought were gone were apparently just dormant. I love hanging out with her but it's so annoying and painful not being able to tell her how I feel.

Just needed to vent a little. ^^'
 
Man, this dating game makes my head explode! This Saturday, 3 girls I date were at the same bar. Coïncidentally. Holy shit. Went home with one, another went home 'cause she wasn't feeling well mentally, and the last just popped by with a bunch of friends. On top of that, a girl I've been interested in for about 4 years is single again and started texting me out of the blue on Saturday night. While I was replying I walked into my local bar and there she stood. Right in front of me. Big grin on her face. Being cute as hell. We talked a bit and I asked for her number 'cause I told her I wanted to hang with her.

Due to all those other girls being there, I had to divide my attention and kinda did not spend enough time with the one I'm most excited about. Guessing I need to take it somewhat easier, right? Feels like I got too much on my plate atm. Luxury problem right there.

That said, browsing this thread and participating in the conversation now and then has really helped me step my game up. I'm not the most confident dude, but lately I've been doing really well, dating wise. Lot's a girls that asked me out as well! It's really cool and fun, but also very hard to keep up with everything.
 
A few months ago I was this close to telling this girl I had a crush on her for almost 6 months after hearing that those feelings were mutual.

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The main issue is, those feelings I thought were gone were apparently just dormant. I love hanging out with her but it's so annoying and painful not being able to tell her how I feel.

Don't tell her that you have a crush on her. That's usually not received well. If she's not in a relationship, then ask her out on a date.
 
Actually, more often then not, I'm just being polite and inviting to things. I've learnt my lesson though, it's always assumed to be a date.

Single people tend to want to date. Taken people don't tend to need new friends.

You need to take the advice given and wear a wedding band because all this rationalizing bullshit is getting old for something simple. You want friends? Do shit with them in groups. Go to movies. Play video games. Dont fucking ask them to dinner and movies at your place alone. Dont use dating apps. And if you cant handle that some people will not give you the attention you want without alterior motives you cant handle people. Because that's reality. You shouldnt string people along without honesty because you feel owed a friendship.

You seem to like attention too much given you ask the same question in the dating thread purely for attention.
 
Not gonna tell her, if she was single I would have asked her out, but she's still in a relationship.

You fucked up. Move on and don't wait so long next time. Plenty of fish, and all that.

Man, this dating game makes my head explode! This Saturday, 3 girls I date were at the same bar. Coïncidentally. Holy shit. Went home with one, another went home 'cause she wasn't feeling well mentally, and the last just popped by with a bunch of friends. On top of that, a girl I've been interested in for about 4 years is single again and started texting me out of the blue on Saturday night. While I was replying I walked into my local bar and there she stood. Right in front of me. Big grin on her face. Being cute as hell. We talked a bit and I asked for her number 'cause I told her I wanted to hang with her.

You're either Jack Tripper (maybe that's a dated reference) or in a small town. That's why I prefer staying in cities, but I'm still scared when I go to malls and such that I'll run into other girls on a date. It's the life of a playa. 😉

In other news, I got stood up the other night, but another girl ended up spending the night. I'll chalk that up as a success.
 
You're either Jack Tripper (maybe that's a dated reference) or in a small town. That's why I prefer staying in cities, but I'm still scared when I go to malls and such that I'll run into other girls on a date. It's the life of a playa. 😉

In other news, I got stood up the other night, but another girl ended up spending the night. I'll chalk that up as a success.

Yeah, had to google Jack Tripper...

And yes, it's Bruges. A capital of a province even, but a speck of dust compared to big cities, indeed.

That was instant karma right there, man!
 
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