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[Heckler456]

I don't believe all leave voters are racist, but there are some. Just like I don't believe they are all conspiracy theorists but there are a lot.

I don't think all leave voters are racist either, but I definitely believe that a very significant percentage are just afraid of immigration, if not a bit xenophobic. Racism caries with it a very strong connotation of hatred, and I'd like to believe that most people are deep down good people. But even the best of us can succumb to our very basic need to be loyal to our own social groups.

 

[phisheep]

It will affect them negatively (at least in the short term), but I very much doubt many of them will be sorry to see us go - even if not everyone here deserves their disdain.

I find the exact opposite. Everyone I know would be sorry to see us leave.

Is it bad that I partly want leave to win just to see the UK crumble by their own idiocracy?

Anticipating pleasure out of the economic suffering of millions? Yes, bad. You should not need me to tell you that.

EDIT: missed the smilie

 

[azyless]

A bit off topic but why is this election taking place in the middle of the week ? Is it always like that ? Aren't most people at work/school ?

 

[ShogunX]

This shit is what pushes me towards leave.

The idea from the remain that every leaver is a racist conspiracy theorist.

We all fucking know not everybody who wants to leave the EU is a racist scumbag, however like I've already said previous (had you read a but further) the whole Leave campaign is framed on immigration and fear. Rather than debating legitimate reasons for leaving the EU what we have been presented with is a campaign directly appealing to the lowest common denominator.

 

[liquidtmd]

I don't see how that's an applicable metaphor. There are many flavours of ice cream and limiting the choice to two shuts out a lot of views. There are not many states of membership to the EU, there are two.

But if 51% of the country say 'Yes we want Chocolate', why would the Ice Cream maker then after the election start offering Vanilla?

Hehe maybe it's not the best metaphor - bit of humour for the morning. I'm just not liking the reductionism of millions of peoples motivations.

 

[HazySaiyan]

Well, I just went and Broted. Bremain won out and I voted for us to Bray in the EU. Branks to Breveryone who made this thread so Brun and Brentertaining over the past month or two, and to Quiche for Brorganising it all!

We've laughed. We've cried. We've argued over mundanities and tangentially related irrelevancies. What do we have to fight about now?!

Brello Brian Badonde

 

[TheLegendOfMart]

A bit off topic but why is this election taking place in the middle of the week ? Is it always like that ? Aren't most people at work/school ?

I don't know but it's open from 7am till 10pm tonight and if for some reason you can't make it you can still vote by proxy.

 

[CCS]

Thanks, Bill.

Done rigging the Democrat primary, time to rig this

 

[Maledict]

I don't think it's the numbers necessarily that we need to control. I think the volume of immigration is fine. What we need a tighter grip on is NHS tourism aka people who come to our country to have a baby then go home. That's a massive net loss for the country especially when you consider the family would be eligible for child benefit due to the birth taking place in the UK.

This is incorrect.

Reciprocal charging means that European health care systems pay out more in health care costs for Uk nationals on the continent than we pay out for EU people here. Also the numbers are *tiny*. In 2013/14 the cost to the NHS of EU nationals using it was £30million - which is literally a rounding error when it comes to the NHS budget. On the other hand, it cost £155m for the EU to treat British tourists when they get ill.

Not even touching the child benefit thing because it's simply incorrect. We don't have guaranteed birthright citizenship in the Uk!

 

[azyless]

I don't know but it's open from 7am till 10pm tonight and if for some reason you can't make it you can still vote by proxy.

Ah okay, it opens early and closes late at least.

 

[MassiveNights]

A bit off topic but why is this election taking place in the middle of the week ? Is it always like that ? Aren't most people at work/school ?

Elections are always on a Thursday, the polls are open from 7am to 10pm so plenty of time to vote.

 

[phisheep]

A bit off topic but why is this election taking place in the middle of the week ? Is it always like that ? Aren't most people at work/school ?

It is a Great British Tradition that elections are always on Thursdays, and no damn Eurocrat is going to tell us otherwise.

 

[Ashes]

I understand that whatever the outcome of this is, the snp are demanding a new Scottish independence referendum (part of the "constant re-votes until we get the result we want!" strategy), as clearly Scotland wanted the other result from what England gets.

They are almost entirely Remain.

 

[Bananajama]

Voted Leave

I'm a gambler at heart and think we can do it.

London might face a little crap.
But I live up north and really couldn't care less about the city

 

[Matty8787]

Well funny you should mention that....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...oters-mi5-conspiracy-government-a7092806.html

Ah third of how many though? And where was the poll conducted? Insane asylum?

I will be voting leave and I have my reasons for doing so.

 

[nampad]

I find the exact opposite. Everyone I know would be sorry to see us leave.



Anticipating pleasure out of the economic suffering of millions? Yes, bad. You should not need me to tell you that.

EDIT: missed the smilie

I ninja edited the smiley^^

To be honest, after some transit visa of the UK some weeks ago I was a bit fed up with all the splendid isolation of the UK. Also, I might profit if the financial sector moves here.

But if 51% of the country say 'Yes we want Chocolate', why would the Ice Cream maker then after the election start offering Vanilla?

Hehe maybe it's not the best metaphor - bit of humour for the morning. I'm just not liking the reductionism of millions of peoples motivations.

These past days, ice cream in OT meant something else

 

[liquidtmd]

It is a Great British Tradition that elections are always on Thursdays, and no damn Eurocrat is going to tell us otherwise.

Friday morning, EU: "Congrats on voting Remain - we are now passing new regulation to make you hold Elections on a Monday"

 

[Protome]

A bit off topic but why is this election taking place in the middle of the week ? Is it always like that ? Aren't most people at work/school ?

A lot of the polling stations are set up in schools, so there are no classes. Was great as a kid.

 

[weekev]

This is incorrect.

Reciprocal charging means that European health care systems pay out more in health care costs for Uk nationals on the continent than we pay out for EU people here. Also the numbers are *tiny*. In 2013/14 the cost to the NHS of EU nationals using it was £30million - which is literally a rounding error when it comes to the NHS budget. On the other hand, it cost £155m for the EU to treat British tourists when they get ill.

Not even touching the child benefit thing because it's simply incorrect. We don't have guaranteed birthright citizenship in the Uk!

Wow I stand corrected, thank you. So immigration is a complete bullshit argument in its entirety, thanks.

Edit did some quick research and your wrong on the birthright citizenship. If someone is settled in the UK and gives birth, the child is automatically eligible for citizenship and all the benefits that go with it.

 

[MassiveNights]

I understand that whatever the outcome of this is, the snp are demanding a new Scottish independence referendum (part of the "constant re-votes until we get the result we want!" strategy), as clearly Scotland wanted the other result from what England gets.

The SNP are NOT demanding a new referendum, this is simply wrong.

It was barely even mentioned in their manifesto.

If the UK votes to leave as a whole and Scotland wants to remain, there os a case to re-evaluate the position.

Ultimately if another scottish referendum is held it will be because the scottish people want it to be held.

 

[Flintty]

Why?

Why is it the EU fault that this country didn't build enough houses, didn't invest in NHS and Doctors, let the bankers destroy our economy?

Our government is stripping the country piece by piece and now all of a sudden it's letting immigrants and refugees into the country that is the problem?

There's a difference between cause and effect.

We don't have enough houses or infrastructure in this country because the UK government has failed in that area - this is fact. However, an effect of that is that we simply do not have the resources/infrastructure for the current numbers of immigration (this is not the fault of EU). You can't change that fact. We need to stop/severely limit the flow now and build the infrastructure before upping the flow again. Brussels will not let us do this and we are overcrowded and can't house the people we already have (this is the fault of EU).

This is my last comment on the subject. Like I said, I knew better than to talk politics on GAF but sadly did it anyway and kind of expected the dog piling. We have different views, nothing will change that.

Good luck for today GAF, whatever your vote is - make sure you use it.

 

[BossDarkseid]

It bugs me that there are people, on social media and even outside my polling station etc, who are claiming you're only a patriot if you Vote Leave and its only democratic if Vote Leave gets votes. Hope there's no trouble and I wake up to the formation of Merkel's Glorious European Army tomorrow.

 

[azyless]

A lot of the polling stations are set up in schools, so there are no classes. Was great as a kid.

Haha I was mostly talking about university students. The polling stations are in schools here too but voting always happen on sundays so no missing school for us.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Voted Leave

I'm a gambler at heart and think we can do it.

London might face a little crap.
But I live up north and really couldn't care less about the city

I think you'll care when the North gets even more worse than it is now.

If London suffers, it's inevitable that the rest of the country will too.

 

[danowat]

My friend in London went to vote and his polling station was empty. Welp.
Lots of talk about it on my FB feed though so maybe people will get voting later?

I went to my local, rural polling station at 8am, and it was the busiest I have EVER seen it, had to queue for gods sake!

 

[Bananajama]

I think you'll care when the North gets even more worse than it is now.

If London suffers, it's inevitable that the rest of the country will too.

If you're from the area I'm from.

It really isn't possible

 

[CCS]

Going to have one eye glued to the markets today. Will likely be a better indicator than anything else until the actual results come in.

 

[A Huge Battleship]

Not really enamoured with either of the campaigns, but voted Remain. Largely because I have family in London whose work would be adversely affected by Brexit more than most.

 

[Matty8787]

If you're from the area I'm from.

It really isn't possible

Same here, where I live is a shit show regardless of what happens down south hah.

 

[Kabouter]

Friday morning, EU: "Congrats on voting Remain - we are now passing new regulation to make you hold Elections on a Monday"

If they could, they'd probably force us (in NL we normally vote on Thursdays as well in European elections at least) to vote Sunday like most others. Thankfully, it'll never happen . Christian fundamentalists here will never stand for an election on Sunday, and I think turnout would take a pretty serious hit if you held elections on a Saturday here. On weekdays everyone is out and about anyway going to work or school, so easy to just vote on the way there (or if you're lucky, when you're there).

 

[fanboi]

If this would happen in the US of A, let us say California vote to leave, wouldn't tanks be rolling in?

 

[Miles Quaritch]

If you're from the area I'm from.

It really isn't possible

Liverpool? Who would want to live there anyway?

Nah, but seriously, whereabouts?

 

[ferrasvansen]

Ah third of how many though? And where was the poll conducted? Insane asylum?

I will be voting leave and I have my reasons for doing so.

It was a normal yougov weighted sample, see you just proved my point.

 

[phisheep]

Voted Leave

I'm a gambler at heart and think we can do it.

You are supposed to gamble with your own money, not with everybody else's.

 

[Matty8787]

If this would happen in the US of A, let us say California vote to leave, wouldn't tanks be rolling in?

Eh? This is not Sheffield voting to leave England. This is a country deciding to leave or remain in part of a union.

The two are nothing alike.

 

[Stuart444]

A bit off topic but why is this election taking place in the middle of the week ? Is it always like that ? Aren't most people at work/school ?

It's pretty normal and some places even close school because the school is used as a polling place on the day (ie my fiancee's little sister's primary school is closed on polling days since the school is used for the polls)

 

[kavanf1]

A bit off topic but why is this election taking place in the middle of the week ? Is it always like that ? Aren't most people at work/school ?

Schools are used as polling stations for LE/GE and referendum voting.

Voted Leave

I'm a gambler at heart and think we can do it.

London might face a little crap.
But I live up north and really couldn't care less about the city

That's a staggeringly naïve position to take.

 

[Bananajama]

You are supposed to gamble with your own money, not with everybody else's.

It's called spreading the risk ^-^

Schools are used as polling stations for LE/GE and referendum voting.



That's a staggeringly naïve position to take.

Go outside London, head up north. Most people are exactly the same. Not many care about London.
And when you have campaigners up north talking about London....

Yeah try talking about the city you're campaigning in mate.

Liverpool? Who would want to live there anyway?

Nah, but seriously, whereabouts?

Stoke

 

[SomedayTheFire]

kinda wondered this, what do leavers that aren't a fan of immigration think of all the Irish in Britain?

 

[SuperEpicMan]

Voted Leave

I'm a gambler at heart and think we can do it.

London might face a little crap.
But I live up north and really couldn't care less about the city

I suspect places in the North East and Midlands will end up losing the most if we leave. The EU has funded a lot up in Newcastle and the surrounding areas especially.

 

[Cindres]

Can somebody explain something to me.

I hear all this stuff about the EU being non-democratic, we didn't vote for its leaders, etc.

Then what was the purpose of the EU Parliamentary Elections back in 2014?

 

[Mr Cola]

I have a feeling tonight is going to be very very anti climactic

 

[ferrasvansen]

Right bags of popcorn ready for tonight, alongside a healthy supply of Irn Bru. Going to be a long night waiting for results.

 

[Tak3n]

it is pretty amazing that despite the talk that is should not be about the Tories.... we are about to see a vote that will make or break 2 peoples careers

Cameron and Johnson must be crapping it

 

[QuicheFontaine]

If this would happen in the US of A, let us say California vote to leave, wouldn't tanks be rolling in?

Would they? Whatever happened to Posse Comitatus?

 

[fanboi]

Eh? This is not Sheffield voting to leave England. This is a country deciding to leave or remain in part of a union.

The two are nothing alike.

Well in size and economy it is the same (yes I know it isn't but they have the possibility to leave I think?)

 

[Pixieking]

Is it bad that I partly want leave to win just to see the UK crumble by their own idiocracy?

I'm sure there's a word we have borrowed from our European neighbours that is quite appropriate here. From Germany, I think?

 

[CCS]

Can somebody explain something to me.

I hear all this stuff about the EU being non-democratic, we didn't vote for its leaders, etc.

Then what was the purpose of the EU Parliamentary Elections back in 2014?

People don't know about them.

I'm serious, as I posted yesterday, IPSOS MORI found that only 60% of people know MEPs are elected.

 

[Matty8787]

Well in size and economy it is the same (yes I know it isn't but they have the possibility to leave I think?)

I think such a thing would make great tv.

 

[fanboi]

Would they? Whatever happened to Posse Comitatus?

But if they voted to leave, they are an independent nation, hence that act isn't valid?