Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016

Did you vote for the side that is going to win?


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Quit the bullshit salt comments, this is the path for people's lives for the next thirty years that is being decided tonight.
 
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The Sunderland result is not a surprise at all.

The Newcastle one is why I've become really quite worried. If Remain are to win it'll be unbelievably tight.
 
I am a labour voter and have been left leaning the majority of my life, I am middle class and my background is British and Greek Cypriot.

I lean towards leave, I am not xenophobic or racist or any other number of insults I have seen pitched around, this is half the problem, I also find it ironic that people claim that people who vote out are "uneducated" when surely making statements such as that are rather uneducated or at best naive don't you agree?

Not everyone voting out believes Farage is the second coming of a fictitious Christ or has a British bulldog tattoo on their bollocks and writes for the sun newspaper.

Some of us actually are very well educated and believe that the risk is worth taking because of the numerous issues with the EU that will never be remedied whilst we remain because if that was going to be the case it would have been done long ago.
Yup yup. don't know how well I'd consider myself 'educated' on the matter but I've done some digging about before coming to my decision and I have no issues with immigration. I was actually initially a remain voter even after watching a bunch of propoganda pieces from both sides. It was some debates and some people pointing out some worrying acts by the EU that changed my mind.

Your position is that the EU pillow police are curbing your freedom with their 109 regulations oh wait that's just a thing you heard that wasn't right and you never bothered to look into it, so maybe I'm not the one with the strawman problem.
Using a bad source that turns out to be wrong isn't a strawman, it's called being stupid. I was silly to use a propaganda film as a source and someone else pointed it out in a more useful way, which I thanked them for. None of that is strawmanning :/
Just throwing this out there, but if you want to convince someone they're wrong, it pays not to be condescending or insulting, that's just a good way of making someone ignore you, much like I have been doing up until now. Then again, I'm sure you don't need a lecture from me on how to debate with someone, right? :P
 
Another panic call by my boss:

If Brexit happens we will lose about 30% of our income and might have to lay off people.
Fuck that. The bookies are almost never wrong, I still trust them.
 
It's kind of sad how one can guess results like that just based on a region's financial status..especially considering leaving will probably not going to help them.
But being part of the EU hasn't helped them either so why not try something different?
 
Quit the bullshit salt comments, this is the path for people's lives for the next thirty years that is being decided tonight.

This decides the entire direction our continent is heading in. We learned nothing from all the loss of life in both world wars.
 
The knife in the back scenario is Scotland vote Leave to get the UK out of the EU than separate from the UK in the next referendum so they can rejoin the EU.
 
So, watching from the US, but is the assumption that if Leave wins, Scotland will hold another independence referendum?
No, the two are entirely separate. What is likely is if Scotland votes to remain and the UK as a whole votes to leave, the SNP will use this as a basis to say another referendum should be called.
 
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