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[Smokey_Run]

would you expect a different result?

I mean.. it could work, right? You now get people off their ass after watching their economy and currency tank in hours. People just assumed Remain would win and now they know better. Not saying it'd change anything, but I guess there is a slight chance it could.

 

[Last Hearth]

Just proving my point. You don't actually have a rational position to back up what's currently happening to the GDP, justifying the countless people even on this very forum who's lives have gotten fucked over from this, justifying Scotland and likely Northern Ireland breaking off from the U.K., and the countless other catastrophic events to follow. If you actually cared about how much consequence is going to unfold, you would be articulating why it's all worth it, but instead all of you leave voters just say stuff like this. "Can't convince you!"

Whatever help you sleep at night.

 

[Bedlam]

Just woke up to the great news!

The British people have told the Prime Minister and most of the country's MPs, not to mention most of the world's leaders to go fuck themselves, and it is glorious.

No arguments besides "fuck politions!" I see your position is well thought out. As expected.

Enjoy your economic depression and isolation.

 

[Brinbe]

Anyone making a connection the US election and Trump are pretty off the mark. I think the attitudes towards immigrants/immigration is markedly different and bigots aren't as big of a factor. And you're talking about an electoral college vs a direct vote and leave polled much better than Trump ever has so far.

There is a real danger in complacency but US political campaigns have very sophisticated GOTV technology making sure that likely voters get out to the polls.

 

[Audioboxer]

Idk man 62 - 38 is a pretty wide gap

Precisely if this vote went 62 - 38 across the whole of the UK people would be going ape shit. Point is 62% was enough to win in every location. 100% coverage. That is what cannot be ignored.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Welp

Expect to see a lot of this in the coming hours

Well, no one's gonna call for a referendum right away. If a year from now the UK is doing really shit economically with rising unemployment, then no way France goes "oh yes, we want that."

And hell, if the UK stabilises, the Lion roars, the clouds part and the sun shines on England, then leaving isn't that bad.

So the UK is the canary in the coal mine over what happens when someone exits the EU.

 

[Madness]

The EU just lost its third biggest contributor. Which ever way you cut it thats going to mean a smaller EU project going forward in rescources anyway.

People still have their head in the sand. The EU just lost their future strongest economy, strongest military, and one of their largest exporters. Going forward the EU will struggle as well. In a globalized world, numbers and size matter. Against a 1.3 billion people China, 1.2 billion people India, 340 million people USA, UK needed an almost 500 million EU to be represented.

 

[Cromwell]

Yes the majority of the U.K. and the large majority England just want to fuck shit up. Yup. More than half the voters. Couldn't be anything else and they couldnt have their own valid reasons. Nope.

Bigotry, idiocy, racism, ignorance, nihilism... some reasons besides fucking shit up. Take your pick.

 

[Souldriver]

I'm pretty sure they don't. They almost universally voted remain, it would make no sense for them to stay. Scotland joined the U.K. to be a part of the EU, and Northern Ireland shares the sentiment.

Well then, I'm kind of hoping some pro-EU parts of the UK get to rejoin the EU again soon.

 

[Vampirolol]

I'm very disappointed by all this. Far right in Italy will be so pumped now.

 

[Dunkers92]

What a sad day, really can't believe this outcome.

But hey, I'm going out tomorrow, will at least forget about it for a few hours

 

[Sarcasm]

Hope the EU is stronger for this. Leave the UK by the side of the road, it's what they wanted, go forward stronger than ever and more united as one.

In all honesty them leaving won't affect the EU that much as they didn't really do much for EU in the first place.

 

[Jimbob Smalls]

Ohhhh jesus.

Market speculation was always going to happen. They speculate on far less.

 

[sikkinixx]

This makes me appreciate how politics can become so polarized.

Civility goes out the window when the other side is literally voting to potentially ruin your life.

Yeah I've always been puzzled when people are like "it's just politics!", it's just politics when deciding to remove "sons" from the national anthem, it's quite another when decisions have major, life altering impacts on your life.

 

[Pandy]

I really don't know what to say.

On the plus side, I'm somewhat proud that my own region, and indeed Scotland as a whole, voted 'Remain'.

Beyond that, the shit has only just hit the fan. Where it flies from there is anyone's guess.

 

[Dehumanizer]

People here just think in the immeadiate consequences. You need to look in the long term. The markets will adjust and everything will go back to normal. Volatility now is just the result of an unexpected outcome. I don't understand why some people think UK need EU to have economic success, as it never have needed during all it history before the last twenty years. Of course will be an unstable period of adaptation, but this is normal. Changes cannot be done without causing instability.

 

[Mr.Mike]

I heard its non binding so it could be rejected. If not...I assume UK is fucked for awhile?

The instability and uncertainty will drive capital flight anyway, regardless of what happens in the long term.

 

[Freeza Under The Shower]

If the pro-leave posts in this thread have shown me anything. It's that basically they wanted to give a giant finger to everyone and all other consequences be damned? Is that the deal here or what? Because ignoring the immediate aftermath seems kind of fucked up right now.

I'm over here on the other side of the world watching market futures nervously because 1 million people wanted to say fuck you to David Cameron and some other politicians? Really?!

Yes, this iconoclasm has been in vogue in Europe for the last decade, it's just gotten louder in recent ones. But the first person to voice it here was Pim Fortuyn back in 2004-05. Similar parties and sentiments have been a part of European politics for a while now.

I mean, the absurdity of this 'politics against politics' phenomenon is that there is in fact an anti-EU party block within the EU parliament. Sure, it's representation, but a representation of what exactly? Our ability to repeat the mistakes of previous World Wars (disbanding democracy)?

And that might sound fear-mongerish, but unlike the US with its singular overriding identity, Europe is, and has always been, a barrel of gunpowder with a tiny fuse. The peace of Westfalen did not fix that, it delayed it (thankfully, because that's why we had a scientific revolution to begin with). The collapse and subsequent horrors of former Yugoslavia illustrated that all too well, unfortunately. Without the EU, Europe is nothing less than a nationalist nightmare. If that is where we're going, I'm outta here.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Just odd to me that someone can rationally believe the vast majority of their country is voting purely spite other people. Hint: you are in the minorty, maybe your opinions arent the valid for the majority of your fellow contrymen

It's ignorance, racism, xenophobia, or spite.

Pick one.

 

[darkwing]

based on that mind graph, tackle immigration?

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

The rest of the list we've told to fuck themselves :
The NHS
Scientists
People with Jobs
The Environment
Universities
The Film industry
Etc,

Glorious indeed!

Now all your old people can have their tea while watching glorious Britannia flags in the walls, without worries since the welfare system will feed them, while economy crumbles and young people loses their jobs.

 

[gamechanger87]

This post makes no sense. Also, you still haven't explained the "immigration problem". If it's so major, it should be real easy to do, right?

Just google it. It's not a one second explanation. I posted this video before, but this is a video of a trucker trying to drive from Calais to the UK. Those are economic migrants trying to get on trucks to drive through the Chunnel. These types of videos drive the Leave movement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-amDKfV5Hdw

 

[Mr Cola]

People are losing their fucking jobs because of this. Real people, and not some mythical bogeyman conjured up by Nigel fucking Farage. I think the leave people should realise that regardless of what they want, people in GAF are fucked because of this and give them the space to vent a bit.

On the other side of the coin (And I didnt vote Leave) calling people stupid, racist, idiotic or any other variation for not agreeing with you is not exactly the best route forward. The people who voted leave did not vote for anyone to lose their jobs and to assume they did it out of malice is just naive.

If you want to be angry its better directed at the people who influenced their decisions, if you so think they were influenced, people get their information from somewhere and their arguments were obviously more persuasive, be they good or bad.

 

[Mimosa97]

I have family in France et Belgium. What is the likelihood of Le Pen and Le Front National winning? I know Hollande is practically in the toilet, but I don't know who will likely win between Juppe and Sarkozy.

In 2017 ? Very unlikely. In 2022 ? Maybe.

She's hit a glass ceiling at 30-35% of votes but most right-wing voters agree with her on everything (immigration, conservative values etc..) except her stance on the Euro ( she wants us to dump the euro and go back to our old currency) so they'll vote for Juppé/Sarkozy and 35% of voters won't be enough to make her president (it's a 2-rounds election)

 

[2700]

This surely has to be one of the biggest missteps a country has ever taken. We are going to go through a long period of self-inflicted stagflation. Scotland will call for second referendum. Far right groups across Europe will be galvanised.

I cannot believe David Cameron did not put a turnout threshold and require a supermajority for the referendum. The young have had their future thrown away.

BoE won't be able to stop the collapse today.

 

[nubbe]

next step is civil war when Scotland declare independence, good times ahead

 

[jabuseika]

England has gotten over worst.

People crying doom look hysterical.

There is time to go back.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

I love this country so much and I fear for it today.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

Congratulations England. What a wonderful day.

Forget the scaremongering. 6 months from now, there will be little difference.

Failing markets, crashing currency and lost jobs mean nothing to you I presume?

 

[Faustek]

2001.

Round about 9/11

I would say it has always been. Since we discovered the sun at least.

 

[Joni]

You have to get permission to hold a referendum officially from Westminster, but you can't just "leave".

You could however declare independence, which would be suicide typically unless you want to enter a group of nations that don't have a good bond with your former country.

https://twitter.com/pzf/status/746195604397662209
*sad trumpet sound

Fantastic news.

 

[Jimbob Smalls]

Bigotry, idiocy, racism, ignorance, nihilism... some reasons besides fucking shit up. Take your pick.

Your thoughts are in a minority. At least our exporters get a break for a bit.

 

[Syder]

When did the world became so racist?

Britain is incredibly racist. It's just rarely expressed. For every young progressive person, they have two parents, 4 grandparents and countless family members that may harbour racist sentiments. Just because they aren't donning KKK hoods doesn't mean they're happy about the Indian restaurant that opened up down the road.

 

[googleplex]

Sigh. https://twitter.com/Balloon_Fish/status/746198266342060032

Christ..... Whats the Hell...

 

[FieryBalrog]

Currency literally losing tons of value and markets crashing worldwide and you're crying about hysteria.

Currency losing value has multiple overlapping effects. Also it's been 2 hours after an unexpected result, which is exactly the kind of result that would impact the market. Since, you know, markets incorporate expected results.

Markets are not "crashing".

 

[Chinese Cartoons]

At least those filthy foreigners will now stay out of the country, amirite?

Says it all

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

'Stay in or we'll fucking kill you' isn't much of a union though.

Welcome to today EU, brought you by Merkel.

 

[KingBroly]

I mean.. it could work, right? You now get people off their ass after watching their economy and currency tank in hours. People just assumed Remain would win and now they know better. Not saying it'd change anything, but I guess there is a slight chance it could.

Yeah, you COULD. If you cut the margin in half as a starting point, it'd be probable. But you'd need a lot of people to change their minds.

 

[Sianos]

Lol

Ah, so this was step 2.

 

[javac]

Ignorance really is bliss.

 

[Lightning Count]

Woke up at 5 am literally couldn't sleep. Turned on the news, I'm just in disbelief, this is a major setback, it's a disaster.

I am honest enough to say this, I am actually crying right now, I feel dead inside seeing how this turned out.

 

[dealer-]

Bristol voted 62% remain so I'm proud of my home city. Sad we have to face the consequences now but we move forward.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

'Stay in or we'll fucking kill you' isn't much of a union though.

It held the fledgling United States of America together between 1861-1865

 

[ferrasvansen]

England has gotten over worst.

People crying doom look hysterical.

England? Fucking typical it's not just England here.

 

[Cromwell]

Nothing is currently happening to the GDP. The British pound is not the GDP. A bit of basic knowledge might lead to a little less hyperbolic fear on your part, so I encourage it.


How many people in this thread, exactly, and how have their lives been fucked over in the past 2 hours? Did a voting booth fall on someone and kill them because it had too many Leave votes cast inside it?

Typo. GBP. And people in this thread are losing their jobs. I love it when people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about try to sound like they do.

 

[Starwolf_UK]

So is this going to get worse or stay where it is right now?

Tough to say really. Markets tends to initially over react but all the big players have been armed and ready to act since the early hours of this morning so who is left to change it.

But I can't see it reaching $1=$1.50 for the years...you want to talk saving 10 billion a year, you just lost 200 billion on the exchange rate.

Now the FTSE opening in just less in 2 hours time...that has potential to be a bloodbath.

Just woke up to the great news!

The British people have told the Prime Minister and most of the country's MPs, not to mention most of the world's leaders to go fuck themselves, and it is glorious.

How is it glorious? It shows us once again that Simplicio wins the debate and you can run a campaign on par with Homer Simpson's one from Trash of the Titans and win as well. It just makes me think fuck democracy is stupid because ultimately the people have "incorrigible stupidity".

 

[nephilimdj]

Well, no one's gonna call for a referendum right away. If a year from now the UK is doing really shit economically with rising unemployment, then no way France goes "oh yes, we want that."

And hell, if the UK stabilises, the Lion roars, the clouds part and the sun shines on England, then leaving isn't that bad.

So the UK is the canary in the coal mine over what happens when someone exits the EU.

Who says the EU will be all rainbows in 1 year? How exciting is Turkey, Albania and Kosovo

I mean wasnt so long ago like ~25% of Croatians voted to join EU and it passed, which was against there own voting laws.

 

[rodvik]

People still have their head in the sand. The EU just lost their future strongest economy, strongest military, and one of their largest exporters. Going forward the EU will struggle as well. In a globalized world, numbers and size matter. Against a 1.3 billion people China, 1.2 billion people India, 340 million people USA, UK needed an almost 500 million EU to be represented.

Agree. Bad news all around I am afraid.

 

[Jimbob Smalls]

Failing markets, crashing currency and lost jobs mean nothing to you I presume?

Exports are cheaper and markets are volatile.

 

[BlueTsunami]

England has gotten over worst.

People crying doom look hysterical.

Fight the good fight lmao