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[Interceptor]

You mean the Sun and the rest of the right winged hysteria news media?

This attitude caused your country to leave the EU. God i love the irony.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

When did the world became so racist?

It's always been. There have been attempts at reining it back throughout the course of history, but that stopped dead in its tracks in 2001.

 

[aliengmr]

So, do people that are adamant that Trump has no chance to win still feel that way?

Not being a smartass, legit asking.

Well if you are asking if Brexit has altered my feelings about Trump leaving then the answer is no.

Immigration fears, while they do exist here, are just not on the same level. Not sure how much power immigrants have in the UK, but in the US, they've become a group of voters you simply can't win without.

Is a Trump Presidency a threat? Sure, but not because of Brexit.

The thing about Trump is, so far, he's only won over like minded people. We Americans can reach epic levels of stupidity, but the general electorate needs more than just barking at a mic for a couple of minutes and calling it a speech.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Shit is so depressing that I'm having a hard time getting to sleep.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

When did the world became so racist?

It's always been.

 

[Envelope]

I was really hoping that this wouldn't pass. My condolences to UK GAF; I sincerely hope this doesn't end as catastrophically as it's shaping up to be, and that after the older generation starts to die off, the UK can join up with the EU again.

if there even is an EU in the future! but no, we can't blame #leave because they were just exercising their democratic rights to be absolute fuckheads :^)

 

[Shaneus]

Australia i think

Close! It's 3pm.

But it's a Friday, so make of that what you will.

 

[ferrasvansen]

Ohhhh jesus.

And this is just the start but ofc, in 40 or 50 years when I'm dead it will all be fine.

 

[gamechanger87]

I just don't get how little grasp you can have on your own fucking electorate. How can you not get down reliability figured out yet?

Insane.

Likely oversampled London just like last year. Also, polls only really work if the turnout between groups are equal. If you have one group more motivated to vote it doesn't matter what the polls say.

 

[Machina]

wouldnt be the first time and will not be the last time.

Now this is some blind optimism. The British economy just copped an arrow to the heart

 

[barybll]

If you can assure that UK only leaves the EU on paper by replacing the UK membership with treaties (EEA and EFTA etc) I see no reason why Brussels wouldn't mind.

The thought that EU would somehow try to nail UK as a punishment/warning example is alien. That would just push UK even further away from the EU, something Brussels would want to avoid. Cooler heads will prevail and I mean even now UK has tons of exceptions from the EU, a sign of flexibility rather than formalities.

And what is stopping all the minor countries who went through a lot of pain to adequate for EU standards from complaining and threatening to leave?
UK is getting all the good stuff without any of the penalties, the other members of the EU would never accept it

 

[Warm Machine]

When did the world became so racist?

When the Middle East became a flashpoint for world wide conflict and began spilling out of its own borders. I can't blame people for being scared, but I can blame politicians and policy for not helping and not controlling it.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Sigh. https://twitter.com/Balloon_Fish/status/746198266342060032

Jesus fucking Christ this makes me depressed. Mr. prime minister , please do right thing and save this country.

 

[dalin80]

40% of Scotland voted 'leave'? Was *not* expecting that.

 

[Mimosa97]

Yes, asking for a French referendum to "import democracy". Expected, and she actually has a point, that was what everybody feared about the Brexit, it will push all Eurosceptics to ride the wave.
Unfortunately it means most EU leaders will try to make UK's life as miserable as possible to show everybody what a bad idea it is to leave the Union. Sorry guys, nothing personal. :/

We'll never have a referendum and even if we do it will be a non-binding one.

Remember the lisbon treaty referendum ?

 

[stan423321]

If you can assure that UK only leaves the EU on paper by replacing the UK membership with treaties (EEA and EFTA etc) I see no reason why Brussels wouldn't mind.

The thought that EU would somehow try to nail UK as a punishment/warning example is alien. That would just push UK even further away from the EU, something Brussels would want to avoid. Cooler heads will prevail and I mean even now UK has tons of exceptions from the EU, a sign of flexibility rather than formalities.

The tricky part is that if EU will play nice with UK this would be major boost to other EU leaving movements if any.

 

[E_Darkness]

 

[exmachina64]

Yep, that's numbers alright, 52 is bigger than 48. Either way, it's a major problem that needs to be addressed when half the country is at war with the other half, this Government has caused such a major rift and divide that in a sense, Britain needs chaos, things need to be rough so SOMEONE will actually start to get shit together.

You can have Trump if Boris doesn't take over.

 

[Kolx]

So is there any hope now of something that can reverse this or it all hope is gone?

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

The sheer volume of hysteria in this thread is really something to behold.

I urge you all to remember that pretty much none of us have any real idea what the net consequences are, especially over a timeframe longer than 2 hours since the referendum was called.

For most of you this is largely an emotional matter.

As an outside observer I find it odd that that the net consequences weren't fully realized by people before they took drastic and irreversible action.

 

[Officerrob]

When did the world became so racist?

Always has been, just been bubbling under the surface

 

[BanGy.nz]

When did the world became so racist?

The beginning of time.

 

[Mrbob]

Leave skewed heavily towards older people and the uneducated.

Could see something similar happen in the US election.

I'm actually shocked older people wanted to leave. This will affect their retirement accounts much more than younger people. Younger people have time to make the losses back.

 

[fester]

Really? Did you watch any news during the last 12 months?

Really? Answer the fucking question with some facts. I look around and I see racists fueled by ignorant fear. Where's the immigration problem?

 

[Davilmar]

I'm French. We'll never have a referendum.

In France all the powers are in the hand of the president. Unless Marine Le Pen becomes president, we won't be leaving the EU anytime soon.

Remember that there's no western country in the World where the president has as much power as in France.

I have family in France et Belgium. What is the likelihood of Le Pen and Le Front National winning? I know Hollande is practically in the toilet, but I don't know who will likely win between Juppe and Sarkozy.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

If the pro-leave posts in this thread have shown me anything. It's that basically they wanted to give a giant finger to everyone and all other consequences be damned? Is that the deal here or what? Because ignoring the immediate aftermath seems kind of fucked up right now.

I'm over here on the other side of the world watching market futures nervously because 1 million people wanted to say fuck you to David Cameron and some other politicians? Really?!

Democracy.

People are fucking morons.

 

[Donos]

Can't believe they are out. I hope the "leave" ppl know that there is no "can we come back in?" later when they see the it was rather a mistake...

 

[Lion Heart]

Nope, gold is going to remain a worthless commodity good with limited industrial and artistic uses.

It went up relative to the pound, but to be fair, so did literally everything in the world, so you probably won't get much benefit from that.

I don't care about its long term appeal, I need it high by the time the market opens so I can cash out.

 

[wildfire]

Brexit pros and cons:

I've been avoiding these Brexit discussions since I didn't believe it would actually happen.


Trade is way more better by staying in due to the EU being such large trading partner.
It's not like Britain was incapable of making products that didn't appeal to nonEU countries already who probably preferred the streamlined trading rules.


EU budget is questionably better staying in. It really depends on how tangible these $3000 in overall savings can be felt (which probably wasn't because they voted to leave :| )



Regulation point is a wash. Neither is really better than the other.

Immigration is clearly better when leaving the EU.

Influence isn't a benefit either way. Staying in or out of the EU wasn't the problem.

 

[Az987]

So is this the tipping point for the next financial crisis?

 

[Easy_D]

You won't get an acknowledgement from those people on people losing their jobs, losing money, and everything else that is the sad reality of something like this. It's basically a bunch of people shit posting, which no doubt says plenty about the kind of people that voted to leave, not that it's particularly shocking.

From now on we shall refer to it as shit-voting.

 

[Bubblicious]

:O Wow did not expect the "Leave" campaign to win!

I thought polling indicated a strong chance for "Remain" to win? Another case of bad polling for a UK election it seems?

Stay strong UK-GAF (well the ones who voted to stay in the EU). I want to hope that the global markets aren't badly affected but I think that might be a futile wish

 

[TheRealTalker]

BREAKING NEWS: ITV reporting that Sinn Fein calling for new vote on united Ireland. Brexiters were adamant that this wouldn't happen - WSJ

https://twitter.com/pzf/status/746195604397662209
*sad trumpet sound

 

[7threst]

Just woke up to the great news!

The British people have told the Prime Minister and most of the country's MPs, not to mention most of the world's leaders to go fuck themselves, and it is glorious.

Can you explain what's so glorious about this? This will likely have a serious (negative) impact on a lot of people in the UK. Not sure if 'glorious' is the right way to describe the outcome of this.

 

[Syder]

If the pro-leave posts in this thread have shown me anything. It's that basically they wanted to give a giant finger to everyone and all other consequences be damned? Is that the deal here or what? Because ignoring the immediate aftermath seems kind of fucked up right now.

I'm over here on the other side of the world watching market futures nervously because 1 million people wanted to say fuck you to David Cameron and some other politicians? Really?!

That's exactly the reality of the situation.

 

[Burgess_101]

I've never been so disappointed in this country.

 

[Rich!]

I hope to fuck the government ignores this or calls for another referendum (as it is so close).

It is such an unmitigated disaster that something has to be done.

No. I voted remain too, but lets stop the denial and bargaining. The vote was made as a final decision. Leave won. Article 50 will be declared imminently.

We are leaving the EU and you need to accept that. That's all there is to it. We have to deal with it for better or worse - this is the bed we have made to lie in. 52% of the country made their voices loud and clear and took their chance to tell the world that they are not happy. Not all of the people who could have voted remain did vote - they just assumed remain would win by default. It didn't. The chance is gone. It's over.

 

[SymbiantXenos]

Close! It's 3pm.

But it's a Friday, so make of that what you will.

I'll give it a pass lol. Hangover wouldn't be worth it.

 

[Saucy_XL]

It's the same reason people would vote for Trump. They have nothing to lose and would rather fuck everyone else over out of spite.

Yes the majority of the U.K. and the large majority England just want to fuck shit up. Yup. More than half the voters. Couldn't be anything else and they couldnt have their own valid reasons. Nope.

 

[fallengorn]

Wow... kinda shocked that it passed. Uh, congrats UK, you just played yourself?

 

[Maledict]

I like you, Mr Cola. Great post. Too many Gaffers shitting on voters for not voting their way. Gaf has been leaving a bad taste in the mouth all night.

People are losing their fucking jobs because of this. Real people, and not some mythical bogeyman conjured up by Nigel fucking Farage. I think the leave people should realise that regardless of what they want, people in GAF are fucked because of this and give them the space to vent a bit.

 

[Ark]

So is there any hope now of something that can reverse this or it all hope is gone?

The UK is mostly done now.

Scotland will inevitably hold another referendum and leave.

 

[MLH]

What awful news to wake up to, we're in deep shit now, people don't even know full implications of their vote for leave, the loss of decades of work by the EU & Britain for workers rights, trade, freedom of movement and globalisation. It's so sad people have voted in fear of immigrants, so sad that the older generations have selfishly voted instead of thinking of future generations.
The future of this country is now in the callous hands of the conservative party, a party probably now shifting even further right, Cameron & remain conservatives won't last.

 

[Andrefpvs]

Wondering about this:

In theory, if general elections are called, would it somewhat work as a repeat of the referendum if some of the major parties promise not to pass the referendum results if elected?

 

[ShipTheCheese]

I like you, Mr Cola. Great post. Too many Gaffers shitting on voters for not voting their way. Gaf has been leaving a bad taste in the mouth all night.

I appreciate the freedom to vote as much as the next person, but when weighing up the arguments, I fail to see a cohesive point as to why Leave is the better option of the two.

Hearing a Gaffer's thoughts who voted Leave would be interesting to hear, and you shouldn't feel afraid or anything to post your thoughts. It would, however, be much appreciated if you can illustrate this beyond a statement to the likes of "fuck yeah freedom".

I am honestly curious.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The up side of all this is that normally you need to have a UK IP address to actually watch the domestic BBC's stream. For this referendum, they've allowed worldwide streaming and I've been watching BBC One for the last 4 hours from the US.

 

[Putzweg]

The sheer volume of hysteria in this thread is really something to behold.

I urge you all to remember that pretty much none of us have any real idea what the net consequences are, especially over a timeframe longer than 2 hours since the referendum was called.

For most of you this is largely an emotional matter.

Exactly! People need to calm down because everyone freaking out is the least the economy needs.

 

[RoyalFool]

Jesus, didn't expect to win.

So much negativity and ashamed so many of you guys are calling 16m people xenophobic.

I voted for democracy and accountability, I'm sure things will get worse before they get better but if the EU stays in its current course you lot might be thanking us at some point.

Plus farage can now fuck off

 

[KZObsessed]

Just woke up. Can't believe Leave has won. This is just so damaging.

 

[Thornton Reed]

Cameron and corbyn will surely loose their jobs over this