Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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I wonder if if the police as a group together comes out for gun control after this event, if that will have any affect at all on the lawmaking clusterfuck in congress.
 
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Rich! said:
Right, let's not start this. How many people have been gunned down in America by civilians or police this month alone? It's not even comparable.

If you can't see the issues America has compared to the rest of the developed world, I don't know what to say.
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Sure, but the it's not so weird for the poster to express a feeling of despair at the state of the world.
 
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Lime

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Watch the system and the police force acting swiftly and immediately in response to this, while not single finger moves when a Black person is killed.
 
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Rich! said:
I don't see any of the shit happening in America this week happening in the UK. Ever.

Brexit hasn't got anyone killed or gunned down en masse, neither are our police shooting innocent civilians without recourse (what like, 5 recorded incidents here in the past twenty years?!)
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Protip: It's all the same issue, rampant racism. I've been watching you for a few days over this coverage, your nose thumbing is astounding given what country you come from.
 
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Fallout-NL said:
Sure, but the it's not so weird for the poster to express a feeling of despair at the state of the world.
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The world has always been fucked. History is gruesome. Humans have carried out atrocities against each other from the start and will continue to do so until we destroy everything including ourselves.
 
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Roberto Larcos

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Rich! said:
Right, let's not start this. How many people have been gunned down in America by civilians or police this month alone? It's not even comparable.

If you can't see the issues America has compared to the rest of the developed world, I don't know what to say.
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They were just correcting a factual error on your part.
 
Honey Bunny

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Diffense said:
I felt bad after the Sandy Hook shooting.
I felt bad after the Charleston Church shooting.
I felt bad after the Orlando massacre.
I felt bad after bombings half the world away in Turkey.
I felt bad when a man still in his seatbelt was executed before girlfriend and child.

Yet I have been following this thread for news and I must admit I've experienced a surprising lack of empathy here. Even I did not expect this. I don't really feel for the deceased officers at all. I can only muster a bit of empathy if I think of the children left without a parent. However, this has been a revelation to me: how can some people be utterly unmoved by the dead bodies of POC?

I had to feel it to know it. Especially if you're not white, you'll probably experience some degree of discomfort, even fear, when detained by the police. Can you truly mourn the death of that which has the potential to make you uneasy, uncomfortable, or in fear for your life? Now I understand all perspectives. I get why so many people DGAF when others talk about unwarranted killings of minorities by police. That's just one more dangerous "thug" off the street never to return. Their actual personhood does not matter, just what they represent archetypically to the beholder: an object of fear...gone. Is that an occasion for mourning or a stimulus to agitate for reform?

With these thoughts it basically just dawned on me how deep the problems are and why it's so hard to get collective momentum towards the changes that would make for a more peaceful society. But that'll take another paragraph and I'm tired.
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I think this is a bit nuts. I feel empathy in this case because the officers were human beings shot and killed without justification, as happens to so many American civilians. I think anybody who cant distinguish the individual from the group has a problem.
 
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obin_gam said:
I wonder if if the police as a group together comes out for gun control after this event, if that will have any affect at all on the lawmaking clusterfuck in congress.
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It won't. Those useless tools only care about Hillary's emails.

I don't even know what to say about things like this anymore. It's infuriating. Violence doesn't accomplish anything to solve a problem, all it does is make things worse.

My thoughts go out to families of everyone who lost their lives this week.

This country needs to have a serious discussion with itself in regards to guns, sadly, it's something that'll never happen.
 
entremet

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Rich! said:
The world is significantly less fucked right now than it was during World War 2, that's for sure.
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Yep and violent crime is at historic lows and this with even a bigger population.

What's really going on is that these tragedies are more personal due to smartphone recordings, 24/7 news cycles, and social media.

This creates cognitive biases. We're basically story telling apes, so the more personal these tragedies become the more woe the world is falling apart attitudes prevail.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava

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It's kind of insane how precisely police were targeted in crowds of humanity like this. You would have to be really deliberate to not hit civilians in such scenes, it's shocking.
 
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SquishLiz

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I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in a very long time.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
 
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Waking up to this was devastating. My thoughts are witbh DallasPD, the families of Philando Castile and Alton Sterling, the Hughes, all those affected by these recent tragedies, everyone and anyone with enough humanity to be sickened by this mindless violence.
 
entremet

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SquishLiz said:
I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in many years.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
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No way.

The 80s were pretty horrible many minorities, way more than now. Forget about before then.

You're only seeing more of it due to social media/smartphones. But it was always there. Back there it was way worse.
 
guggnichso

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SquishLiz said:
I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in a very long time.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
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I (as a german) asked the same several threads ago, and basically the point was made that this was always there in the US, it just gets more exposure now due to the rise of the Internet and social media specifically.

Also, a bit off topic, I recently googled a "keep save in traffic" show that I remembered watching as a kid, even if it was aimed mostly at adults. I was quite shocked that they had multiple shows from 75 trough to the beginning of the 80s titled: "DANGER: Women driving", specifically detailing the perceived dangers imposed by women driving cars. We've come a long way since then, even if we're not yet there.
 
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SquishLiz said:
I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in a very long time.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
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2 biggest attacks since 9/11, I think that's something. One can say the violence is becoming more sensational and calculated for maximum effect.
 
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SquishLiz said:
I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in a very long time.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
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you probably dont "remember" because you are white and live in the suburbs.
 
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SquishLiz said:
I feel like racism, sexism and bigotry in general are the highest they've been in a very long time.

Maybe I was too young to remember, but I genuinely don't recall anywhere near as much hatred back in the early to mid 2000s.

Somebody please feel free to correct me
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It was higher in the 90's, and prob higher before.

The only thing that changed is that everyone carries a camera with them now.
 
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Lime

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My uninformed position on this thing is that the response should be a matter of gun laws, and less about race or police brutality or further militarization of police
 
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GorillaJu

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Are the people on my Facebook posting thinly veiled justifications for this the left wing equivalent of people congratulating murderers like the guy who killed Trayvon Martin?
 
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