Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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Cesare Borgia

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Aikidoka said:
Why are people so quick to say BLM are done? This not the first time in the U.S. that black Americans have formed peaceful protest groups when others formed more militia type groups.
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Where are most of those groups now? Gone after government and law enforcement stumped them out. It's over for them, and it's over for criminal justice reform.
 
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klonere

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It's like Jon Stewart shat all over Crossfire and how harmful it is and the media's takeaway from that was MAKE EVERYTHING LIKE CROSSFIRE.

Look where we fucking are now.
 
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Bubba T said:
First and foremost, I am black American who was born from Nigerian immigrants, so please get out of here with that ignorant ass comment.

I spent a good portion of my life living in Nigeria. I know all about how life is there. People are literally killed in the street and the day just goes on like normal. The police are carrying AK-47s around like a standard pistol. You keep your words short with strangers because you don't know whether or not they are trying to rob and murder you. When the rolling blackouts start to happen you wake up and watch the windows because you don't know if someone is going to try to loot you tonight. You don't know shit about how me and mine lived fam.

I'm watching the news and I'm seeing the same violence I saw in my time there. Yes, it is better, but it's not that much better when we still have people killing each other in the street in broad daylight.
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Who the fuck is this, someone tell me. Get the fuck out of here with your ignorant ass, i was born and raised in Nigeria, in one of the worst cities in the country at the time (Onitsha, 10-15 years ago). I lived through some horrible shit, Igbos killing Hausas, Mass Armed robberies, Bakassi Boys e.t.c, so there is no one more qualified to know how full of shit you are. When was the last time you went to Nigeria? or are you stating your experiences from 20 years ago? because i went home ending of last year and things have drastically changed, you do know change occurs right? So please bugger off with this nonsense. Nigerians spent too much time yapping with each other, aint nobody afraid of their neighbor robbing them. There is constant black out (hopefully to change with the single largest oil refinery being built in the world) and no one is afraid of someone breaking in because of a blackout. And the police do carry AK-47s, because its the fucking standard issue weapon.
 
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Big Baybee said:
Well, the issue of blacks being targeted, over policed, and murdered in the streets is now going to be fully dismissed instead of almost fully dismissed. Thanks dumb crazy asshole.
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Yep. I have remorse for those slain yesterday by these idiots. But any attempt at progress is now probably over and things are in fact going to be worse off now. There was a chance to sway the public and cultivate tremendous support and that's wiped away.

The actions of this selfish idiot has set back progress for years.
 
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Hubbl3 said:
I think when people say BLM is done, they're referring to their credibility / legitimacy. The media will crush their image and if the suspects turn out to be black, they will immediately be tied to BLM regardless of whether or not they had any affiliation.
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BLM survived the police revenge murders in NYC and they will survive this
 
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Aikidoka said:
Why are people so quick to say BLM are done? This not the first time in the U.S. that black Americans have formed peaceful protest groups when others formed more militia type groups.
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Because people are upset.

BLM isn't "done," but the deaths of five police officers at a BLM protest is going to unfortunately dent the movement's national profile, as many people will just ignore all of the context around it and hone in on whatever narrative they want.
 
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Big Baybee said:
Well, the issue of blacks being targeted, over policed, and murdered in the streets is now going to be fully dismissed instead of almost fully dismissed. Thanks dumb crazy asshole.
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And if we thought police officers were trigger crazy, now that this happened, we can be damn sure this is gonna be highly dangerous for ANYONE interacting with police at this point. I'd highly suggest anyone interacting/getting stopped by law enforcement keep their hands clearly visible, listen to the officers-COMPLY(if you were wronged, sue. That's why we have a court system), do not make sudden movements that can be seen as hostile and speak loudly and clearly.

All lives matter. We all bleed red. We are human beings. We can be better. :(
 
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Aikidoka said:
Why are people so quick to say BLM are done? This not the first time in the U.S. that black Americans have formed peaceful protest groups when others formed more militia type groups.
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Not to mention that two Nyc police officers were ambushed and killed last year by a black man who claimed it was for revenge.

So many hot topic issues are going to be debated because of this.

- gun control
- BLM
- police militarization
- racism
 
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Cybit

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TheLostBigBoss said:
I am confused, so there was only one gunner? Or do we have a group of people + a lone wolf who acted after the fact?

Is this the same dude that we saw kill the cop in the video?
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It looks like there were multiple people who coordinated an attack based on the number of shots in that time frame. The deceased shooter claimed they were acting alone, but could have been lying. Or multiple people came up with the same idea at the same time.
 
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Bubba T said:
Yeah, I thought that was strange too. They usually have a name and a photo and a background with cherry picked facts within minutes.
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Chief said there might still be more suspects out there, so they don't want to give away everything so the suspects have to keep guessing.
 
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Aikidoka said:
Why are people so quick to say BLM are done? This not the first time in the U.S. that black Americans have formed peaceful protest groups when others formed more militia type groups.
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I'm not sure most Americans are capable of or want to differentiate between the two. They probably just see 'black people' as a homogenous group.
 
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Doc Holliday said:
Not to mention that two Nyc police officers were ambushed and killed last year by a black man who claimed it was for revenge.

So many hot topic issues are going to be debated because of this.

- gun control
- BLM
- police militarization
- racism
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I don't have much hope for the debate being civil or productive in the Age of Trump.
 
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Doc Holliday said:
Not to mention that two Nyc police officers were ambushed and killed last year by a black man who claimed it was for revenge.

So many hot topic issues are going to be debated because of this.

- gun control
- BLM
- police militarization
- racism
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The problem with this one is that it was specifically at a BLM protest. As false as it may be they can now be linked with this in a way unlike the NYC killings.
 
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...........OK, wow, yeah---I know there was the whole thing where a neighborhood block got firebombed to hell from the sky some decades back as per the thread we had on here for forgotten moments in Black History that I can't find at the moment....but holy hell I never would've imagined to see something like this employed with a bomb defusing robot!

I mean, good god this has gone from bad to worse on top of how the media is already lining up to craft and massage the worst kind of narrative to an unbelievable degree.
 
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SG-17 said:
The tactics used suggest to me ex-military or some kind of militia. Honestly it seems like an anarchist group, separatist group, or other kind of domestic radical group is responsible. As such, they are likely white. White people killing cops doesn't fit any oppression-serving agenda nicely.

That's me being cynical. A less cynical idea is that they are worried about further attacks.
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Or the guy is a vet, and you tread carefully around that. You don't want to piss off the vet groups.
 
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Brinbe said:
Yep. I have remorse for those slain yesterday by these idiots. But any attempt at progress is now probably over and things are in fact going to be worse off now. There was a chance to sway the public and cultivate tremendous support and that's wiped away.

The actions of this selfish idiot has set back progress for years.
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It only "sets back progress" because people are waiting for any excuse to push that progress back.
 
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Sayad said:
It's how you deal with situations where the suspect is willing to die and any direct interaction with others could be risky, usually to deal with suicide bombers. Was just used against suicide bombers in Saudi Arabia few days ago.
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Yeah I meant I never heard of it being used in the US before.
 
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Just saw an interview on Good Morning America saying the police were taking pictures with the protestors, talking to them, supporting their movement right before being gunned down. Crazy. This gonna stir up too much shit, no one wins.
 
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Hubbl3 said:
I think when people say BLM is done, they're referring to their credibility / legitimacy. The media will crush their image and if the suspects turn out to be black, they will immediately be tied to BLM regardless of whether or not they had any affiliation.
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If media still has some hint of public responsibility and accountability they should stress very well the difference between a peaceful civil rights movement and a deadly act of someone that on surface could have the same goals but using a radically different strategy to achieve them. Failure to do so only will result in even more radicalisation. Hence all the care authorities are showing on releasing info on the suspect to the public. They need to have all the details right before doing so.
 
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The all lives matter morons are out of the woodwork now. Fucking maddening.

And no, BLM is not done by any means. But we're in a very different and more divisive world than we were two days ago. Instead of coming together, people will be more steadfast and divided. There's zero room for nuance with the majority of people out there, sadly.
 
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The other thing is; every future BLM protest is going to be necessarily militarized going forward.

By all accounts Dallas PD had a good relationship to the group, purposefully took a more relaxed stance, wore their summer casual uniforms, took pictures with the protestors. Those days are over.
 
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Guevara said:
The other thing is; every future BLM protest is going to be necessarily militarized going forward.

By all accounts Dallas PD had a good relationship to the group, purposefully took a more relaxed stance, wore their summer casual uniforms, took pictures with the protestors. Those days are over.
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Dallas police chief said they weren't going to militarize in response but yeah I can see some other communities responding in that manner.
 
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Guevara said:
The other thing is; every future BLM protest is going to be necessarily militarized going forward.

By all accounts Dallas PD had a good relationship to the group, purposefully took a more relaxed stance, wore their summer casual uniforms, took pictures with the protestors. Those days are over.
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Yep they said they were going to double down on efforts to keep officers safe. And this is going to happen all across the country if the protests weren't already militarized
 
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