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[Mahonay]

You say absurd gun power, but it's not. It's real. People are going to have realize that the firepower that lets one (assuming at this point this guy was alone because that's the most likely scenario) person shoot ten+ cops without any successful return fire is in fact commonplace and not out of the ordinary. But you're supposed to feel safer when you have one. You know, just like all those cops were supposed to be safer.

Hopefully people realize this dichotomy after this event. But I'm not hopeful.

 

[Jackpot]

I lose sympathy for people who spit and stomp on a flag.

People don't care about the flag or this country anymore.

Well some people don't, it's disturbing I know

It's just a flag.

 

[Forearms]

Has it been confirmed that the person was black or is it still implied?

Still implied.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

We were raised in different era friend, I was taught to respect it, my family in the military respects it, you don't have to, just like I can chose not to respect people or chose to burn it and spit on it.

So, blind support no matter what, no actual thought or introspection. Got it.

 

[BSsBrolly]

You say absurd gun power, but it's not. It's real. People are going to have realize that the firepower that lets one (assuming at this point this guy was alone because that's the most likely scenario) person shoot ten+ cops without any successful return fire is in fact commonplace and not out of the ordinary. But you're supposed to feel safer when you have one. You know, just like all those cops were supposed to be safer.

Seriously, this is where the "if only there was a good guy with a gun there, this would never have happened" argument falls apart.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

We were raised in different era friend, I was taught to respect it, my family in the military respects it, you don't have to, just like I can chose not to respect people who chose to burn it and spit on it.

How could you conflate human lives with a flag?

 

[Krejlooc]

We were raised in different era friend, I was taught to respect it, my family in the military respects it, you don't have to, just like I can chose not to respect people or chose to burn it and spit on it.

I doubt we were. My dad is military. I grew up in Texas, we said the pledge of allegiance and the pledge of texas every day before school, all the way until I graduated.

What you are spouting has nothing to do with eras, and everything to do with critical thinking. The flag is nothing sacred.

 

[The Jackdog]

Its so monumentally depressing that the loud minority shoots to the top of these discussions, forcing people to PICK A SIDE.

Its completely and 100% possible to sympathize with BLM, understand why they are upset, to be sad for the families of the people needlessly killed by police, while at the same time feeling solidarity and support for the police who lost 5 officers and to feel sad for their families.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

I truely believe most people feel that way. but you don't hear from them. You hear from the loudest, most hateful, on either side, trying to pull people apart.

 

[BokehKing]

How long do you think before we get an all clear on the supposed IED's?

How could you conflate human lives with a flag?

Because to me the flag represents everyone who lives here?
White, black, Asian, Mexican

 

[soxinthebox]

They blew up the guy with a bomb on a robot? Is that a tactic people use nowadays?

 

[Hip Hop]

people who spit and stomp on a flag.

It's disgusting when that happens, speaking as someone that became naturalized in this country. It isn't just a piece of cloth to me either.

 

[Mahonay]

Why exactly are we talking about the flag right now?

 

[dave is ok]

Its so monumentally depressing that the loud minority shoots to the top of these discussions, forcing people to PICK A SIDE.

Its completely and 100% possible to sympathize with BLM, understand why they are upset, to be sad for the families of the people needlessly killed by police, while at the same time feeling solidarity and support for the police who lost 5 officers and to feel sad for their families.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

I truely believe most people feel that way. but you don't hear from them. You hear from the loudest, most hateful, on either side, trying to pull people apart.

Yep.

 

[sflufan]

I lump them in with the same people celebrating cops getting killed though.

This could very well be one of the most imbecilic things I've read in ages.

Congratulations.

 

[FyreWulff]

I don't know if it's just me, but I feel strange that most articles are referencing 9/11 in headline like this is a high score.

I saw CNN refresh in real time to it's black-background page with super caps letters "WORSE DAY FOR POLICE SINCE 9/11" and it looks like everyone else is running with that

 

[TyrantII]

Is there any truth to that I just woke up?

Yes, even the mods are saying don't do it.

This is a news thread.

 

[Zeta Oni]

We were raised in different era friend, I was taught to respect it, my family in the military respects it, you don't have to, just like I can chose not to respect people who chose to burn it and spit on it.

Putting people who cheer at innocent lives lost in the same category as people mistreating a flag, regardless of what it represents, its ridiculous. Regardless of what "era" you were raised in.

 

[Bubba T]

Why exactly are we talking about the flag right now?

My guess because it is supposed to be a representation of a united nation, something which some seem to doubt right now.

 

[tkscz]

They blew up the guy with a bomb on a robot? Is that a tactic people use nowadays?

With a sniper I can see them doing it this way. It's easier to sneak a robot grenade in there rather than a person.

 

[Particle Physicist]

I'm a little confused. Last night it seemed like there were multiple people doing this but today try are only talking about one suspect. Am I missing something?

 

[The Albatross]

I'm disgusted with how fucking petty so many people are being in this thread. So many people are so caught up with winning internet arguments that they can't take a step back and consider what they're arguing over.

Its so monumentally depressing that the loud minority shoots to the top of these discussions, forcing people to PICK A SIDE.

Its completely and 100% possible to sympathize with BLM, understand why they are upset, to be sad for the families of the people needlessly killed by police, while at the same time feeling solidarity and support for the police who lost 5 officers and to feel sad for their families.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

I truely believe most people feel that way. but you don't hear from them. You hear from the loudest, most hateful, on either side, trying to pull people apart.

This is exactly my feeling, thank you for stating it.

 

[Ray Wonder]

I doubt we were. My dad is military. I grew up in Texas, we said the pledge of allegiance and the pledge of texas every day before school, all the way until I graduated.

What you are spouting has nothing to do with eras, and everything to do with critical thinking. The flag is nothing sacred.

The flag represents the USA. Stomping on it isn't stomping on a cloth, or they would've stomped on a cloth. They wanted to make a point, so they chose the US flag.

It's not the physical foot on a colored cloth aspect. It's the message that it's supposed to convey.

 

[Nappuccino]

People don't care about the flag or this country anymore.

Well some people don't, it's disturbing I know
I lump them in with the same people celebrating cops getting killed though.

Hope the people of Dallas show support to officers today

Our flag and country aren't nearly as important as the people living and dying in it every day. Maybe you should lose sympathy for those taking other's lives and marginalizing others, not those tarnishing some fabric made in China.

 

[TheOfficeMut]

We were raised in different era friend, I was taught to respect it, my family in the military respects it, you don't have to, just like I can chose not to respect people who chose to burn it and spit on it.

You may have been born in a different era but perhaps you should expand your thought process and understand why someone would do that right now.

 

[bchamba]

People don't care about the flag or this country anymore.

Well some people don't, it's disturbing I know
I lump them in with the same people celebrating cops getting killed though.

Hope the people of Dallas show support to officers today

lol sounds reasonable

 

[NoblesseOblige]

People don't care about the flag or this country anymore.

Well some people don't, it's disturbing I know
I lump them in with the same people celebrating cops getting killed though.

Hope the people of Dallas show support to officers today

It's disturbing to you that people recognize that this country has issues and make a display of their grievances? Sorry, but you sound more disturbing.

 

[Raylan]

It's just a flag.

It isn't 'just a flag' for me.

It's disgusting when that happens, speaking as someone that became naturalized in this country. It isn't just a piece of cloth to me either.

Amen

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

How long do you think before we get an all clear on the supposed IED's?


Because to me the flag represents everyone who lives here?
White, black, Asian, Mexican

What about the actual human beings who are asking not to be murdered as their killers constantly get off scot free? A representation that you can buy at a store for five bucks has a higher priority than that?

 

[Gattsu25]

I'm a little confused. Last night it seemed like there were multiple people doing this but today try are only talking about one suspect. Am I missing something?

4 suspects. - only 1 confirmed to be part of the shooting so far from what I can tell

1 male was holed up in a parking garage and was killed by a bomb-carrying bomb-defusal robot - this is the only suspect that the police have released statements on regarding a motive - also claims to be a lone wolf from what I understand
1 female was near the parking garage
2 males were trying to escape the city on a highway and were captured after a car chase

 

[Arrowgigantic]

I'm a little confused. Last night it seemed like there were multiple people doing this but today try are only talking about one suspect. Am I missing something?

You're missing how much people wanted it to be more than one person.

 

[BokehKing]

I'm disgusted with how fucking petty so many people are being in this thread. So many people are so caught up with winning internet arguments that they can't take a step back and consider what they're arguing over.



This is exactly my feeling, thank you for stating it.

That was the tone shared last night while this was happening, I don't know what happened this morning in but those people disappeared. And got replaced with the "pick a side" crowd.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I saw CNN refresh in real time to it's black-background page with super caps letters "WORSE DAY FOR POLICE SINCE 9/11" and it looks like everyone else is running with that

There's no need to invoke 9/11 here. It's sensationalist and irresponsible if you ask me.

 

[Mahonay]

My guess because it is supposed to be a representation of a united nation, something which some seem to doubt right now.

Can we just be united against people who are fucking insane and willing to mow down human beings? Who the fuck cares about the flag right now. This is more just general sanity. We are all humans first, nations second.

 

[CrocMother]

Its so monumentally depressing that the loud minority shoots to the top of these discussions, forcing people to PICK A SIDE.

Its completely and 100% possible to sympathize with BLM, understand why they are upset, to be sad for the families of the people needlessly killed by police, while at the same time feeling solidarity and support for the police who lost 5 officers and to feel sad for their families.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

I truely believe most people feel that way. but you don't hear from them. You hear from the loudest, most hateful, on either side, trying to pull people apart.

Good post.

 

[old manatee]

Somebody just murdered a bunch of police officers and then they executed him with a robot, and this guy want to take a stand against flag burning :/

 

[Silent Chief]

Anyone asked the chief of police about the absurdity of civilians owning assault rifles yet?

 

[Nappuccino]

It isn't 'just a flag' for me.

And human beings mean more to me than whatever this flag means to you.

I would love to go back to an era when the flag can be something we all unite around, but when so many are marginalized and disenfranchised, it's difficult for me.

 

[BokehKing]

What about the actual human beings who are asking not to be murdered as their killers constantly get off scot free? A representation that you can buy at a store for five bucks has a higher priority than that?

You act like I don't care about innocent people being executed?

Still no reason for people to cheer for police officers death. Like this is some "we even now for this week" shit.

 

[inner-G]

For me, it isn't 'just a flag' or 'just a piece of cloth'. Sorry

Well, it is, regardless of how you feel about it.

It's also not as important as our constitutional rights. Limiting free expression because of the flag is just stupid, sorry.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Seriously can you people take this bickering over a goddamn flag to another thread or PMs? This isn't the thread to fucking bicker over this shit. Goddamn it.

 

[backbreaker65]

Can someone explain

1. They posted a pic of Mark Hughes as a "Suspect" POI.
2. But they will not post pics of the so-called "Suspect" perpetrators of the crime?

 

[Bear Force One]

Any sort of patriotism is a trap and soley divisive.

The country lines aren't real. They're made up. You're here most likely because you were born here. Luck of the draw.

Flags don't MEAN anything.

 

[Violet_0]

They blew up the guy with a bomb on a robot? Is that a tactic people use nowadays?

this is some videogames-level of craziness, but on the other hand, with all the modern technology available, I think it's only a matter of time until weaponized drones will become commonplace in police operations

 

[TyrantII]

We were raised in different era friend, I was taught to respect it, my family in the military respects it, you don't have to, just like I can chose not to respect people who chose to burn it and spit on it.

Not to go OT, but you do realize Texas flys their state flag higher than the Stars and Stripes.

People use it to protest because of it symbolism and because of our awesome first amendment rights. Get over it.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Its so monumentally depressing that the loud minority shoots to the top of these discussions, forcing people to PICK A SIDE.

Its completely and 100% possible to sympathize with BLM, understand why they are upset, to be sad for the families of the people needlessly killed by police, while at the same time feeling solidarity and support for the police who lost 5 officers and to feel sad for their families.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

I truely believe most people feel that way. but you don't hear from them. You hear from the loudest, most hateful, on either side, trying to pull people apart.

Correct.

 

[Diffense]

So is it confirmed that it was a lone shooter?

 

[SaganIsGOAT]

Yes, even the mods are saying don't do it.

This is a news thread.

I meant to it being done by BLM sorry for lack of clarity. I'll start reading the thread and find out. I assume that guy was spewing bullshit

 

[Corronchilejano]

It isn't 'just a flag' for me.
Amen

But it is just a flag. You can honor it if you like, but it won't change the fact that it's just a symbol.

 

[ColdPizza]

Its so monumentally depressing that the loud minority shoots to the top of these discussions, forcing people to PICK A SIDE.

Its completely and 100% possible to sympathize with BLM, understand why they are upset, to be sad for the families of the people needlessly killed by police, while at the same time feeling solidarity and support for the police who lost 5 officers and to feel sad for their families.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

I truely believe most people feel that way. but you don't hear from them. You hear from the loudest, most hateful, on either side, trying to pull people apart.

Thank you.

 

[fixedpoint]

Nope. Stomping and spitting on a flag is stupid behavior.

For me, it isn't 'just a flag' or 'just a piece of cloth'. Sorry.

Nope. Because the issue is well known. Protesting is they way to go. People have to wake up and face the truth. I'm all for it. Stomping and spitting on a flag isn't the way to go... and backfires.

If it "isn't just a piece of cloth" to you, then it's safe to assume that you treasure the ideals its intended to represent, right? Including the first amendment no doubt?