PS4 Neo presentation might have leaked
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DomsPlaying
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Nothing like a good PowerPoint, amirite? :-/
Love the CONFIDENTIAL on top right. Also, no date but seems like you folks deduced already that it's the document from a couple months back when GB confirmed its existence.
Love the CONFIDENTIAL on top right. Also, no date but seems like you folks deduced already that it's the document from a couple months back when GB confirmed its existence.
vpance
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With a VCR sized PS4, yes!
neo mode is required but there aren't requirements on what the neo mode actually does. dev could either do a lot or not much
IceDoesntHelp
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can I get an ELI5?
Have no idea what I'm reading.
Have no idea what I'm reading.
Maybe.
Colonel Nasty
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You can it just might be the exact same game.
you can play it, it will just look and run exactly like the regular PS4 unless they patch in neo mode
Presentation has the confirmation that game's main "exe" file [eboot.bin] can be run on both base PS4 and Neo. So the CPU compatibility is there, all previous PS4 games will run fine on Neo.
Also, there is a confirmation that devs could target a single res that is between 1080p and 4K and then upscale/downscale that depending of the display that user has.
Every game ever released for PS4 [both retail and digital] will run fine on Neo. If devs/pubs want, they can patch "full Neo" support for those "old" games [that will enable those games [like Witcher 3] to access full Neo hardware and render things faster/prettier]. Games that are released after this fall must come with Neo support [for full HW] already present.
Also, there is a confirmation that devs could target a single res that is between 1080p and 4K and then upscale/downscale that depending of the display that user has.
Every game ever released for PS4 [both retail and digital] will run fine on Neo. If devs/pubs want, they can patch "full Neo" support for those "old" games [that will enable those games [like Witcher 3] to access full Neo hardware and render things faster/prettier]. Games that are released after this fall must come with Neo support [for full HW] already present.
family_guy
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Most will overlook that, but at least Xbox fans will have that bragging point again. However the power difference will keep shifting every 3 years or so if that's the new hardware cycle.
Caayn
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It's onQ123, he's long since been obsessed with the idea that the Neo will "uprender" games to 4K. I don't understand his posts as I don't see anything in the presentation that points to anything else than upscaling or native rendering.
How did you arrive to this conclusion? It will be playable, Neo upgrades will be up to the developer if the title was released prior to October 2016 though.
Samurai G0SU
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So we're closer to getting 100% confirmation then?
This NEO is going to sell a lot during the holiday. This will be the PS4 to get. Can't wait to see the bundles and prices. (also i want to know about their UHD/4k-streaming/AudioCodec support, i bet it will be amazingly good)
This NEO is going to sell a lot during the holiday. This will be the PS4 to get. Can't wait to see the bundles and prices. (also i want to know about their UHD/4k-streaming/AudioCodec support, i bet it will be amazingly good)
Backfoggen
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No mention of reduced HDD bottlenecks is a bummer. Please. Shit load times have to go.
This also confirms what I've been talking about which some here didn't realize and that is that sub 4K resolutions will likely be used a lot. Resolutions between 1440p and 2160p. Some people here think it's either 4K or 1080p.
Also interesting is no higher clocks in base mode, so unpatched games can't benefit for example with a more stable framerate which is a bummer.
This also confirms what I've been talking about which some here didn't realize and that is that sub 4K resolutions will likely be used a lot. Resolutions between 1440p and 2160p. Some people here think it's either 4K or 1080p.
Also interesting is no higher clocks in base mode, so unpatched games can't benefit for example with a more stable framerate which is a bummer.
You can play it, but it's not going to take advantage of the increased power (unless CDPR patches it).
OdysseusVA
Banned
You can, but it may not perform better if CDPR declines to patch in NEO support.
No, it means Witcher won't get a bump in performance, unless it gets an update/patch. While all games after that date will have it.
there's some wording in there about returning prototypes in 2017 or something like that is confusing people
Game of the Year Edition is coming out after October, so possibly it will get an upgrade patch.
mocolostrocolos
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Old document for 3.5 SDK.
Might have improved specs.
Might have improved specs.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
It seems to me that it could go either way at this point.
dead monkey uk
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Here we go again, 100 page thread incoming!
Windows 10 Xbox fans you mean.
Yeah, if it's between $399-449 I might actually think about it and relegate my current PS4 to a Fighting games machine.
CDPR is pretty good about post game support. I would def expect a neo patch for Witcher 3
Could very well be the case. They have been great with updates. Game is much better then when I first bought it.
It's over 4Tflops
MilkyJoe
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My dude says they already have the QA consoles in house. This and think manufacturing contracts and I'd be amazed if this was even possible.
tales from people's asses
Well... I was at a FFXV Roundtable at E3 and some people asked asked about DLC and PS4 Neo features. The answer was pretty the same for both questions:
"Fans are waiting for too long, we just to finish the game and then we can think about other stuff".
Since FFXV will be released at the LAST DAY of September, it makes sense that maybe this is the release date so they doesn't need to care about another version (PS4Neo).
Usually PS4 games are released on Tuesdays, right? Sept 30th is Friday.
"Fans are waiting for too long, we just to finish the game and then we can think about other stuff".
Since FFXV will be released at the LAST DAY of September, it makes sense that maybe this is the release date so they doesn't need to care about another version (PS4Neo).
Usually PS4 games are released on Tuesdays, right? Sept 30th is Friday.
THE:MILKMAN
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If only any console was just a GPU+RAM....
Not sure why everybody seems to forget about all the other power consuming stuff inside the box that contributes to a consoles power budget (in this case ~150W at the wall).
That rumour smells like dinosaur poop.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Be shocked if Uncharted 4 didn't get a patch too, especially with a chunky DLC on the way.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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People expected Neo to be a beast still this far in? Hahaha.
I bet the Uncharted 4 patch is already done
dead monkey uk
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Lets split the difference 2016 in Tier 1, 2017 in Tier 2.
you can play all games. they will look exactly the same without a patch
It won't enhance them unless the developers release a patch, but it will still play every PS4 game the same as a regular PS4.
geordiemp
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Yup, Bloodborne and witcher 3 good frame rates be damned.
Also dont give a shit about 1440p down sampled, so its PC or scorpio. I was a 360 gamer anyway...maybe its time to go back.
Sony used to be quite good at making decisions and listening to gamers past 3 years, what the fuck happened recently ?
Listen sony, 60 FPS at 1080p, excellent LOD and lighting..... or just go away and I will just keep my OG Ps4 as a Destiny machine.
Peterthumpa
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What? Jesus, reading comprehension is absurdly low in this thread.
Karspankey
Banned
Just give me a good chunk of change for my PS4 somehow and I'm there, Sony!
Caayn
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It'll run them similar to how a PS4 will run them. It'll require a patch (if made available by the dev) to run them with increased graphics.