The Democratic National Convention OT |2016|: The One With the Policy

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Watching the DNC with my mom and my brother today I learned that my brother is an "AllLivesMatter" supporter who believes that hillary is going to turn everyone gay, and that feminism is a cancer and women were better off when they were "protected" before the right to vote.

But he hates trump, and believes the Illuminati is controlling the world.
 
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Dan said:
Someone capture that Anderson Cooper reaction shot to Jeffrey Lord complaining about Republican women not getting credit, and that Palin was wrongfully portrayed as dumb.
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Cooper secretly (or not so secretly) despises him.
 
joe2187 said:
Watching the DNC with my mom and my brother today I learned that my brother is an "AllLivesMatter" supporter who believes that hillary is going to turn everyone gay, and that feminism is a cancer and women were better off when they were "protected" before the right to vote.

But he hates trump, and believes the Illuminati is controlling the world.
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I sincerely hope your brother never votes. Ever. Sorry but fuck him.
 
Jeff Lord: Donald Trump told me to tell you that the RNC was superb.

Panel: Ugh....

Jeff Lord(minutes later): Trump wants you to know that the RNC was great!

Panel: ....

Ekai said:
You mean Fox News Lite? CNN has been basically Fox News for years now.
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Uh, no.
 
Different time zone, stuck at work now.

What are the speeches from Day 2 that I need to watch?

Obviously Bill Clinton's but who else stood out today?
 
joe2187 said:
Watching the DNC with my mom and my brother today I learned that my brother is an "AllLivesMatter" supporter who believes that hillary is going to turn everyone gay, and that feminism is a cancer and women were better off when they were "protected" before the right to vote.

But he hates trump, and believes the Illuminati is controlling the world.
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Your brother doesn't sound stable.
 
so:

1. Annoying BoB people try to protest, get locked out, aren't able to shit up a bunch of good speeches with boos

2. DNC e-mails backfiring hilariously, the Dems are still unified and Trump is going to get slammed with questions about his Russian connections in the near future

3. Michelle and Bill slaying everyone, followed by Obama, Biden, Kaine, Hillary, and Chelsea over the next two days

bonus: media is butthurt about things going so well, desperately trying to go negative like the "disarray and disunity" of yesterday or other insignificant crap like the losers on MSNBC tonight trying to criticize Bill's speech (all failing at their goal btw)

how everyone isn't high as fuck on hopium right now is beyond me

edit: and Bernie! I'm sorry I forgot
 
The media is a fucking joke.

Bill's speech was a big deal, but NO ONE on NPR even, has mentioned the speech by the NY firefighter or the 9/11 survivor or anyone lesser than a big name.
For fucks sake, it's just on and on about the status of the booing and 'where is Hillary's big promise like Trump's wall?'

No one is going to hear these speeches if all you want to talk about is mending party unity and bullshit. Talk about ANY of the factual events that show who Hillary has been this whole time, stop using crap phrases like "the new Hillary" you assholes. This is the old Hillary. The same Hillary.
 
Steel said:
Jeff Lord: Donald Trump told me to tell you that the RNC was superb.

Panel: Ugh....

Jeff Lord(minutes later): Trump wants you to know that the RNC was great!

Panel: ....



Uh, no.
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Loved that line Axelrod dropped on Lord about the GOP loving the 19th century.
 
Vire said:
Cooper secretly (or not so secretly) despises him.
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Oh, no doubt. Pretty sure everyone there can't stand him. The looks they give while Lord is talking... "fucking hell, why do we have to let him talk? Wait, is my contempt showing? Hold it in, try to look civil."
 
Was the speech good? I missed it. If anyone knows where I can watch it I would appreciate it. I imagine these things get uploaded immediately
 
Steel said:
You think just because they have trump pundits are to get shot at by dem(and sometimes even pub) pundits that they're on the same level of fox news?

They're ratings whores, not party whores.
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No. This has nothing to do with Trump. Their right-wing bias has been around for years. Hence why I call them FN Lite. They aren't nearly as far right as Fox is but they've been very much leaning right for a long time now.
 
hipsterpants said:
so:

1. Annoying BoB people try to protest, get locked out, aren't able to shit up a bunch of good speeches with boos

2. DNC e-mails backfiring hilariously, the Dems are still unified and Trump is going to get slammed with questions about his Russian connections in the near future

3. Michelle and Bill slaying everyone, followed by Obama, Biden, Kaine, Hillary, and Chelsea over the next two days

bonus: media is butthurt about things going so well, desperately trying to go negative like the "disarray and disunity" of yesterday or other insignificant crap like the losers on MSNBC tonight trying to criticize Bill's speech (all failing at their goal btw)

how everyone isn't high as fuck on hopium right now is beyond me
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You forgot about Bernie. Dude has been a champ these last two days.
 
cdyhybrid said:
I didn't need to go through your post history - it just happened last night.

So, yes or no?
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To say I "gave up" would suggest that I started something. I made one post. Someone responded with a Politifact article, I responded by saying that the article did nothing to undermine said post. That's it. I left the thread after that because I have no desire to argue when I know most of the responses will be curt nonsense like "we really want to go down this road" or "there's always one, isn't there".

Now I'm abandoning this thread. You want to sling mud over petty bullshit, PM me. We're not doing it here.
 
Dan said:
Oh, no doubt. Pretty sure everyone there can't stand him. The looks they give while Lord is talking... "fucking hell, why do we have to let him talk? Wait, is my contempt showing? Hold it in, try to look civil."
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Kinda wish they had someone more reasonable than that moron to get some insight from the opposite side of the coin, because it's literally 7 liberals vs 1 idiot conservative.
 
hipsterpants said:
so:

1. Annoying BoB people try to protest, get locked out, aren't able to shit up a bunch of good speeches with boos

2. DNC e-mails backfiring hilariously, the Dems are still unified and Trump is going to get slammed with questions about his Russian connections in the near future

3. Michelle and Bill slaying everyone, followed by Obama, Biden, Kaine, Hillary, and Chelsea over the next two days

bonus: media is butthurt about things going so well, desperately trying to go negative like the "disarray and disunity" of yesterday or other insignificant crap like the losers on MSNBC tonight trying to criticize Bill's speech (all failing at their goal btw)

how everyone isn't high as fuck on hopium right now is beyond me
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Last week I was praying my hearts out for something to combat last weeks week of heralded death and destruction. This week has been an absolute up swelling.

We needed this.
 
Rachel is still kind of salty about a good chunk of Bill's speech.

I understand where she's coming from. On the other hand, it's humanizing as well. Checking my white cis male privilege, but I still think the story makes them more relate-able to some people, even though that slant might not have been present in a perfect world.
 
rjinaz said:
You forgot about Bernie. Dude has been a champ these last two days.
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Haha oh wow I completely forgot. He absolutely nailed it the last two days. It's a shame about some of his delegates being so awful. Even if I had issues with his campaign he has done everything he needed to do.
 
Ekai said:
No. This has nothing to do with Trump. Their right-wing bias has been around for years. Hence why I call them FN Lite. They aren't nearly as far right as Fox is but they've been very much leaning right for a long time now.
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We're gonna have to agree to completely disagree on this. They definitely like making a big deal out of everything and their policy of "every side having a voice" lowers the discussion, but they're not right-leaning.
 
HylianHistorian said:
That is their choice. Honestly, I find nothing wrong with changing positions, better someone change for the better than to remain static.

As for the connections, people have been unable to provide any proof she's been in any way influenced by big money outside of speeches she made after her time as SoS. She was a private citizen at the time.
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It is indeed their choice and they might exercise it.
Here is an example of Clinton's long list of questionable positions she is reconsidering:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/hillary-clinton-says-its-_b_9825650.html

For years Hillary Clinton promoted fracking while she was Secretary of State, but now she regrets her support.

She was, and still is, personally invested in the Keystone XL Pipeline, but now she says she wants to review this project.

For decades she was adamantly opposed to gay marriage and LGBT rights, but now she supports them.

She believed the intelligence George Bush and Dick Cheney provided about the supposed “weapons of mass destruction” in Iraq, but now she regrets her credulity.

She supported the Iraq War itself and spoke out repeatedly in support, but now she says this too was “a huge mistake.” Bernie Sanders looked at the same intelligence,
listened to the same pro-war speeches, and yet came out strongly against the war, led the opposition to it in Congress, and repeatedly called out Bush and Cheney for deliberate misinformation.

She set up a private server in her home and sent official email through this server, possibly to conceal (from oversight) or to divulge (to private individuals) official business. The FBI is investigating. She has cautiously acknowledged an error in judgment.

She pushed for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and referred to it as the “gold standard” of international business agreements many times. Now she says she needs to “take another look” at this job-crushing deal.

She supported the “free trade” deal with Panama, although now she says the deal was a mistake. Bernie opposed this deal from the beginning, saying it was a ruse to enable billionaires and giant corporations to move their profits overseas and avoid paying taxes. He was ridiculed for this view then, but he was proven right with the leak of the Panama Papers in March.

Hillary called some African Americans “super-predators” when attempting to drum up support for a harsh crime bill, but she now says she regrets her words and the bill.

She is for the death penalty, and she still supports for-profit prisons, even though the privatization of prisons has resulted in mass incarceration and vast, documented racial injustice.

She came out against a 15 minimum wage, saying it was unfeasible and “too high,” but her opinion shifted once the15 wage became a reality in two states in April. Bernie Sanders has been supporting the Fight for Fifteen all along, has maintained that a15 wage is the minimum “living wage,” and has made it one of his top goals.

Hillary has accepted millions from Wall Street, although she regrets some of her decisions on banking deregulation. Her top contributors include Citigroup,891,501; Morgan Stanley,765,242; Lehman Brothers,362,853; JP Morgan Chase,801,380; Goldman Sachs,831,740; and Credit Suisse,318,120. Bernie’s top donors are rank-and-file labor unions, teacher unions, and nursing unions, and the vast majority of his funding has come for over six million individual contributions from ordinary Americans throughout the country, averaging27.

Hillary opposes restoring the Glass-Steagall Act, which for decades prevented regular banks from making risky investments with people’s savings deposits. Bernie wants to bring back Glass-Steagall and break up any banks that are “too big to fail” so that we never again have to provide7 trillion in taxpayer funds to the banks as a bailout.

Hillary participated in Republican campaigns as an enthusiastic young conservative. Bernie has always been an independent and has always caucused with Democrats.

Hillary campaigned for Republican Barry Goldwater, who opposed school integration, voted in the Senate against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and campaigned actively to repeal integration. Bernie Sanders marched with Martin Luther King and was arrested for repeatedly protesting segregation.

The Clintons celebrated “Confederate Flag Day” every year when Bill was governor of Arkansas. Bernie led a “progressive revolution” in city politics as Mayor of Burlington, VT, and set aside a Gay Pride Day every year.

Hillary says she’ll consider “loosening” Marijuana penalties, but she maintains that it’s a “hard choice.” Bernie wants to completely abolish the federal prohibition of Marijuana.
Bernie has over 30 years of experience fighting for working Americans, and even Republicans call him an honest person. Hillary has concealed countless official emails, personal servers, transcripts of speeches, sources of PAC money, and much more, and is considered one of the more secretive politicians.
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That's from Huffington Post not Fox News.

If know there will be a lot of finger pointing if Trump wins in November but don't be too quick to blame BernieOrBusters, independents etc. HRC was selected as the Democratic candidate for the presidency (even with some underhandedness as leaked emails suggest) despite her problematic political history.
 
Well I really enjoyed the DNC today. I especially enjoyed the roll call, which I found to be quite beautiful and uplifting. The speeches were what you'd expect, some great moments, some obvious plugging (yes, that's the point).

More than anything, today served as a reminder that intelligence, maturity, and reason are still very present in America no matter how hard the RNC tries to convince us otherwise.

The crossroads this country is at is just unreal. One leads us forward (perhaps slowly), the other... who the fuck knows where (the Republicans sure don't). But right now I feel hopeful that this country can still make the right choice.
 
Valjean Lafitte said:
To say I "gave up" would suggest that I started something. I made one post. Someone responded with a Politifact article, I responded by saying that the article did nothing to undermine said post. That's it. I left the thread after that because I have no desire to argue when I know most of the responses will be curt nonsense like "we really want to go down this road" or "there's always one, isn't there".

Now I'm abandoning this thread. You want to sling mud over petty bullshit, PM me. We're not doing it here.
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Bye.

sangreal said:
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LMAO.

Anderson is far more patient than I.
 
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