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Trump's ties to Putin and other Russian Oligarchs

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Surely at this point we should get some Republicans saying: "We can't support this."

Way past the point for it to matter and the people who give him votes literally don't give a about what the fuck goes on in the world, only that there's a guy that talks like them and sounds as angry as them is running for president.
 
I don't intend to thwart the direction of conversation here, but I shared this amongst my friends because it is pretty damning. For me, it cemented even further that I have to vote for Hillary versus Trump.

But then my friends who dislike Hillary shared this exceptional piece, and now I'm not convinced this Russia flirting is uncommon for these politicians in general.

http://nyti.ms/1DkztP8
 
I don't intend to thwart the direction of conversation here, but I shared this amongst my friends because it is pretty damning. For me, it cemented even further that I have to vote for Hillary versus Trump.

But then my friends who dislike Hillary shared this exceptional piece, and now I'm not convinced this Russia flirting is uncommon for these politicians in general.

http://nyti.ms/1DkztP8

Oh man, I totally forgot about that Uranium One purchase by the Russians.

In a post fossil fuel age where nuclear powers everything, we're going to wish we had shut down the sale of Uranium One to the Russian government...
 
I don't intend to thwart the direction of conversation here, but I shared this amongst my friends because it is pretty damning. For me, it cemented even further that I have to vote for Hillary versus Trump.

But then my friends who dislike Hillary shared this exceptional piece, and now I'm not convinced this Russia flirting is uncommon for these politicians in general.

http://nyti.ms/1DkztP8

First, the State Department did approve of Russia’s gradual takeover of a company with significant U.S. uranium assets, but it didn’t act unilaterally. State was one of nine government agencies, not to mention independent federal and state nuclear regulators, that had to sign off on the deal.

Second, while nine people related to the company did donate to the Clinton Foundation, it’s unclear whether they were still involved in the company by the time of the Russian deal and stood to benefit from it.

Third, most of their Clinton Foundation donations occurred before and during Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential bid, before she could have known she would become secretary of state.

The bottom line: While the connections between the Clinton Foundation and the Russian deal may appear fishy, there’s simply no proof of any quid pro quo.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-inaccurately-suggests-clinton-got-pai/

So yea, while it might seem a bit shady (and maybe it actually is), considering the fact that it was well before the sale, that she wasn't even Secretary of State at the time and had no idea that she would be, that multiple agencies, including independent ones have to approve it as well seems unlikely that this was bribe money. Getting her to agree certainly doesn't get all the other people to agree.

Moreover, we can see from Putin's propaganda television channels and his hack of the DNC that he is actively trying to hurt her campaign and favors Trump by a wide margin. If she could be influenced at a remotely similar level to trump then this really wouldnt be necessary. It is pretty obvious that Putin thinks that a Clinton presidency would be bad for Russian and Putin's interests.
 
I don't intend to thwart the direction of conversation here, but I shared this amongst my friends because it is pretty damning. For me, it cemented even further that I have to vote for Hillary versus Trump.

But then my friends who dislike Hillary shared this exceptional piece, and now I'm not convinced this Russia flirting is uncommon for these politicians in general.

http://nyti.ms/1DkztP8

One of the confusing things about this entire thing is why are these kinds of transactions being cleared if powerful people in these countries don't like each other.
 
I don't intend to thwart the direction of conversation here, but I shared this amongst my friends because it is pretty damning. For me, it cemented even further that I have to vote for Hillary versus Trump.

But then my friends who dislike Hillary shared this exceptional piece, and now I'm not convinced this Russia flirting is uncommon for these politicians in general.

http://nyti.ms/1DkztP8

Putin wants Trump to win, and are apparently negative towards Clinton in their state media, so these ties to Russia narratives in regards to Clinton don't fly in the slightest.

Only one of them defends Putin, admires Putin, and continues to say things that would make Putin a very, very happy man. (and of course, would love for them to continue hacking Americans)
 
I don't remember any outrage back in 2004 when a foreign newspaper made a blatant attempt to influence a US election.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/13/uselections2004.usa11

And they clearly stated you can legally give money as a foreigner:

What? What does this have to do with anything? A newspaper saying hey you foreign people can legally influence campaigns through legal loopholes, even encouraging it, Is not on the same level as a current presidential candidate encouraging an unfriendly forcing power to attack and steal from their opponent for their own gain.
 
WASHINGTON ― Just days before Republicans adopted a new, more Russia-friendly plank into their party platform, one of Donald Trump’s top advisers visited Moscow in July to deliver speeches criticizing decades of U.S. foreign policy.

Page’s financial interests in Russia include investments in the Russian state oil conglomerate Gazprom, as well as consulting work advising companies on how to do business in Russia. Page told Bloomberg News this spring that he still attends Gazprom shareholder meetings, and that U.S. sanctions against top Kremlin officials and state-owned Russian companies have hurt his consulting business and the value of his Gazprom shares.

“Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption, and regime change,” Page said last month during a commencement speech at a Moscow economics graduate school.

Trump and his top campaign aide, Paul Manafort, both denied that they were behind the change. But delegates at the Platform Committee meetings and officials with the Republican National Committee said that not only was the Trump campaign behind the new language, but that it was, in fact, the only major revision the campaign demanded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carter-page-trump-russia_us_57a0f329e4b0693164c2fb41?section=&

Interesting...
 
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