Thank you. Symm x junkrat in particular makes no sense, as with her upper class snooty nature she'd probably think hes creepy gutter trash.
Overwatch has developed quite a fan art following....
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Ragnorok64
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Most of the popular pairings I see in this thread make no sense. There's no dialogue, that I'm aware of, that would indicate that Marcy and Phara are lesbians, there's an almost thirty year age gap between Jack and Mercy, and do Symmetra and Junkrat even have any dialogue queues that interact with each other?
Honestly Ana and Reinhardt have the only dialogue I can think of that could imply feelings when you consider he uses a totally different tone, when remarking that he thought she was dead, than he uses anywhere else in his dialogue.
Honestly Ana and Reinhardt have the only dialogue I can think of that could imply feelings when you consider he uses a totally different tone, when remarking that he thought she was dead, than he uses anywhere else in his dialogue.
Welcome to fandoms. Pairings don't have to make sense, if the artist wants to draw a lesbian couple because that's their fetish they'll try to make some head canon for it and use that in their drawings.
Here's the bigger question: Why does it matter?
Seriously. Why does history or in-game dialog or whatever else matter? Why isn't the part that matters "these are two characters people want to see together"? If we're talking about a hugely fleshed-out storyline for a long-running series where it makes no sense for those two characters to pair up, sure, maybe you've got an argument. But Overwatch's lore and backstory, at this point, are paper thin, and the game provides little of anything to go on in terms of what relationships these people have, romantic or otherwise.
You know why I like Pharmercy? Because they're cute together and they make a hot couple. That's all I need. You're asking for sense to be made of the pairings that fans come up with in a game where a human being can propel himself through the air by detonating a highly-powerful explosive under his feet, and where a girl can heal herself by encasing her body in ice. There are far bigger issues of things that aren't logical than who fans want screwing each other.
Well, to be fair, it isn't just "fetish" but also possibly "sexuality". When you're gay/lesbian/bi, it's unsurprising that those are the kinds of ships you'd want to see. Not just because of it being a fetish, but because that's who you are.
Seriously. Why does history or in-game dialog or whatever else matter? Why isn't the part that matters "these are two characters people want to see together"? If we're talking about a hugely fleshed-out storyline for a long-running series where it makes no sense for those two characters to pair up, sure, maybe you've got an argument. But Overwatch's lore and backstory, at this point, are paper thin, and the game provides little of anything to go on in terms of what relationships these people have, romantic or otherwise.
You know why I like Pharmercy? Because they're cute together and they make a hot couple. That's all I need. You're asking for sense to be made of the pairings that fans come up with in a game where a human being can propel himself through the air by detonating a highly-powerful explosive under his feet, and where a girl can heal herself by encasing her body in ice. There are far bigger issues of things that aren't logical than who fans want screwing each other.
Well, to be fair, it isn't just "fetish" but also possibly "sexuality". When you're gay/lesbian/bi, it's unsurprising that those are the kinds of ships you'd want to see. Not just because of it being a fetish, but because that's who you are.
SinCityAssassin
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More like 15 years probably, but who's counting? (No one because they haven't revealed his exact age yet.)
Ragnorok64
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Probably closer to 20 now that I think about it.
SinCityAssassin
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if we were going with the general 55 range, that'd be a good 18 year gap yeah.
Is there a way to buy just this print? I don't want to do a patreon, but I wouldn't mind just getting this print.
theSlacker
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Same place all the other parings come from.
Tales from the ass.
Just enjoy the art.
I also thought that Mercy's age was an under estimate/weirdly low.
Breh, upper class girl x streetwise lower class boy with bad hygiene is one of the oldest pairings there is in fiction
SinCityAssassin
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Order vs. Chaos, that's the simplest reason. You can have that same dynamic with Lucio too.
Ragnorok64
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The things you listed adhere to the internal logic of the universe. They aren't issues. The Overwatch world is cartoony in nature and a charcter like Junkrat who runs around on a peg leg and constantly smoldering hair are especially silly. Same with Torb pretty much straight up being a fantasy dwarf that can drink molten metal and burp fire, and Rein having Warcraft proportions. And then there's Winston... yeah.
Interpersonal relationships, in-universe, though, are depicted as being fairly normal. So nonsensical pairings absolutely stand out a utterly out of character. Which is why comics of D.Va guzzling Mountain Dew, and McCree learning to ride a horse are funny to me, but Junkrat and Sym, or Mercy x (litterally everyone under the sun) make me roll my eyes.
SinCityAssassin
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Why do you hate D.Va's family? Jack and Angela work hard to provide her the dewtrients a growing goblin needs.
Professor Beef
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But, canonically, D.Va doesn't guzzle mountain dew and whether McCree can ride a horse is unknown, and that comic your referencing doesn't have any of the relationships in it based in the game either. McCree and Soldier aren't friends or close, D.Va doesn't have any relationship with McCree.
The thing about fan created content is that they are fan creations. D.Va liking Doritos and Mountain Dew is as much an external addition to the game as a romantic relationship between anyone.
And you haven't answered her question. The entire point of fan created content is that they add, alter, and generally mess with what is considered the canonical world. If you have preference for what is canonical (which is doubtful, since you cited enjoying the McCree learning horseriding comic), that's fine, but what right does that give you to be judgmental of different preferences?
SinCityAssassin
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Some people just can't stand to see people happy.
We already did that Scrubs reference.
Professor Beef
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SinCityAssassin
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Well no, it mostly means put the discord orb on Mercy easier.
Ragnorok64
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You're splitting hairs. McCree has a cowboy motif, the same with D.Va as a gamer. In those cases I'm enjoying art that acts as an exaggeration and/or parody of the actual charcter, thier traits, and/or design.
Also I'm not sure where the notion of having to earn a right to judge is coming from. By nature, anything involving art is subjective. As soon as a picture enters your eyeballs you're making a value judgement on it. If random pairings make me roll my eyes, they make me roll my eyes, I don't need to somehow earn that right.
SinCityAssassin
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What are your thoughts on Dad76 and Mom Mercy taking care of a gamer gremlin child, is that a fun parody?
SinCityAssassin
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Ragnorok64
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I'm semi-torn. It makes no sense, obviously. I also don't like the Mercy and 76 pairing considering the afformentioned 20~ish year age gap coupled with Jack likely having been her commanding officer. Actually, as I think about it, no I'm not torn. I don't like it.
76 as a parody father to D.Va can work; in the same wholey ridiculous way Reaperfield works. Introducing Mercy to the equation takes me out of it.
Professor Beef
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Maybe you just don't like Mercy
SinCityAssassin
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You're tearing this family apart, Rag.
Cannon Goose
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I did a quick gremlin d.va doodle.
Professor Beef
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I did a quick gremlin d.va doodle.
TO THE GROUND
Ragnorok64
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The only reason that Mercy x 76 exist is that, until the introduction of Ana, she was the oldest woman in the roster. Nothing from thier interactions or back story (that I know of) lends itself to a pairing.
D.Va has no father. The unholy spawn from hell.
To answer your question tho, it's not lore. It's fanfic turned fantastic for once.
I have to kill fast but bullets too slow
Go watch the movie Gremlins, that should give you a good idea where D.Va comes from.
Someone poured Mountain Dew on a bunny?
SinCityAssassin
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For additional info look up Reapfield: A Tale of Two Guns.
Of course, I'm sorry if that came across as offensive/rude, I thought it was clear I was talking about one of the possible cases.
No, not at all! Was just adding that to make sure people reading your comment didn't think it was only about fetishes (which there's nothing wrong with).
But we know almost zero about the characters' sexual preferences, attractions, relationship statuses, and so on. You can't say Junkrat x Symmetry wouldn't work with any more authority than I can say Mercy x Pharah would, because we've got not data to support either option. We know that one of the Overwatch characters is gay, and really, that's it. What if, say, Solider: 76 is the gay one? That then completely throws out every piece of Mercy76 fan art in some people's eyes.
Then again, it doesn't. As has been said constantly, the fan shipping stuff is about having fun with the pairing that you like. Who cares if it makes sense? If it doesn't to you, then don't download the art, and scroll past it when it's posted. I have zero interest in Mercy76, yet every bit of protesting I've said about it in here has all been in good fun, and I think some of the art that comes from that ship is pretty damn good. If people enjoy Mercy76, then more power to them, because their fun isn't in any way stopping me from getting Pharmercy art—and neither of those sides is doing anything to impact the game and people who don't care about shipping period.
If Blizzard starts catering to the shippers and making the game officially recognize certain pairings, then I think there's room to complain about what's been done. Even then, though, we also don't know that Blizzard doesn't already have plans to make any of the characters romantically involved as more of the actual story is revealed. And it wasn't me who put a Weekly Brawl into the game that featured nothing but Pharah and Mercy pairings.
The only canonically related characters so far are Genji and Hanzo (brothers), and Ana and Pharah (mother and daughter).
Wyndstryker
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I've literally seen that whole Mercy getting boosted instead of Genji scenario today.
Thankfully it was on the other team. But it was a mercy boosting a genji but something blasted the mercy into the way of ana and she got the ult.
Thankfully it was on the other team. But it was a mercy boosting a genji but something blasted the mercy into the way of ana and she got the ult.
Poodlestrike
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That's exactly what makes it fun tho. Opposites attract and all that.
theSlacker
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Honestly the thing that bothers me about when things cater to shippers isn't when they do that. It's when they intentionally leave everything vague forever as to not sink anyone ship. That is what I think about when someone has a problem with catering to shippers.
Also, do you have proof that it wasn't you behind that weekly brawl? I'm awfully suspicious.