JrBaconCheeseburger
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What is the real reason Apple is dropping the headphone port? Seeing as how the note 7 can have audio jack and be submerged in water tanks?
Is it purely DRM-Agenda?
Is it purely DRM-Agenda?
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There is no reason to remove the headphone port on an iPhone or any phone.
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Your Entertainer
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You tell us Mr Phone Engineer
With your intimate knowledge of the internals of phones that haven't released yet
With your intimate knowledge of the internals of phones that haven't released yet
hydrophilic attack
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They want to sell you adapters
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Doesn't it use rubber inserts?
Copying Lenovo/Motorola.
Kill Your Masters
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Dongle money, cost reduction, lightning beats monopoly...could be anything anti-consumer related.
Definitely nothing pro consumer.
And as long as there are no decent Bluetooth buds/cans that don't cost twice the amount of a similar wired solution (quality wise), don't even bring it up.
Definitely nothing pro consumer.
And as long as there are no decent Bluetooth buds/cans that don't cost twice the amount of a similar wired solution (quality wise), don't even bring it up.
The Technomancer
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Look on paper you can maybe sell me on a "new technology" replacing 3.5mm and make us put up with adapters for a few years while headphones catch up
But its moronic to have it pull double duty with the charging/transfer cable
But its moronic to have it pull double duty with the charging/transfer cable
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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How would anyone know?
infiniteloop
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- they want the space for something else (battery?)
- they want dual speakers instead
- they want people to buy Beats wireless headphones
take your pick
- they want dual speakers instead
- they want people to buy Beats wireless headphones
take your pick
Dr. Feel Good
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The entire industry will follow suit. Bluetooth technology will advance. Audiophiles will be the only ones left kicking and screaming years from now.
Move on already. Wireless is the future. Battery will only be an issue in the short term.
Move on already. Wireless is the future. Battery will only be an issue in the short term.
Kill Your Masters
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The 7 probably isn't even that thin. There are phones out there with a 3.5 jack which are thinner than the Moro Z which only has USBC.
Um, so how do I move on if the industry hasn't followed suit yet?
I am not very good in technical stuff, so I don't understand:
Will there be a different port? Or nothing at all?
So you can't use standard headphones anymore?
Do you have to buy wireless ones?
I would never buy a phone like that, headphones are very important part of my phone usage.
Will there be a different port? Or nothing at all?
So you can't use standard headphones anymore?
Do you have to buy wireless ones?
I would never buy a phone like that, headphones are very important part of my phone usage.
Modest Mauser
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There's no point in dual speakers when they're both crammed together on the bottom of the phone.
minor effort
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If the increasing number of leaks are to be trusted, the 7(?) doesn't look any thinner than the 6/6S.
Alligatorjandro
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Why
Fuck us that's why
And we'll be like ok
Fuck us that's why
And we'll be like ok
metareferential
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No jack no buy.
But I can see it working out perfectly for many users. I see a lot of older adults never using headphones. It's mostly a younger demographic thing (except for people working out).
I only use headphones at home, and certainly not with my phone. Only time I use them is if I have to walk somewhere. Since I commute to work with my car, no need for headphones.
So yeah, despite the backlash, they'll be banking again.
But I can see it working out perfectly for many users. I see a lot of older adults never using headphones. It's mostly a younger demographic thing (except for people working out).
I only use headphones at home, and certainly not with my phone. Only time I use them is if I have to walk somewhere. Since I commute to work with my car, no need for headphones.
So yeah, despite the backlash, they'll be banking again.
yanipheonu
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I just wonder if it'll catch on.
Apple gonna apple, but I'm not really seeing headphone manufacturers changing their chosen ports anytime soon.
Gonna suck for the Apple faithful for a while, but I guess that comes with the territory.
For anyone outside of Apple, it seems like a death sentence for a phone.
I don't think Motorola, for example, has the brand strength to pass up the headphone jack.
I certainly want a headphone jack. And this is from someone whose phone's headphone jack has broken on two consecutive phones, and I use bluetooth because of it. I STILL don't see a good reason to give up that jack.
Apple gonna apple, but I'm not really seeing headphone manufacturers changing their chosen ports anytime soon.
Gonna suck for the Apple faithful for a while, but I guess that comes with the territory.
For anyone outside of Apple, it seems like a death sentence for a phone.
I don't think Motorola, for example, has the brand strength to pass up the headphone jack.
I certainly want a headphone jack. And this is from someone whose phone's headphone jack has broken on two consecutive phones, and I use bluetooth because of it. I STILL don't see a good reason to give up that jack.
I'm listening to music on my iPhone right now, using wired headphones without the 3.5mm jack and the phone is charging. One port. Charging and music.
Powered USB adapter.
I was going to be nice and not mention wireless nonsense, but fuck that. Wireless headphones are still no where near as convenient as ordinary wire until you manage to make it plug-and-play across multiple devices
Unknown Soldier
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The iPhone 7 will be the real test of headphone jack removal. If it gets widely criticized and sales crater, the headphone back will be back next year. If everyone buys it anyways and just gets used to horrible adapters which break all the time and provide Apple with extra money, then Apple users are doomed.
On the Android side, I expect Samsung to keep headphone jack forever so I'll be fine.
On the Android side, I expect Samsung to keep headphone jack forever so I'll be fine.
Except battery life has continued to be one of major downfalls of these mobile devices for years now. I don't want yet another device I have to remember to charge. I just want to plug in my headphones and play. And that's not an uncommon attitude.
This isn't a floppy drive, some standard that everyone had already mostly abandoned by the time Apple catalyzed the trend toward removing it. People still own and enjoy their traditional headphones. It's a bummer that we're at a point where we have to go "well that's just how things are now" instead of the industry actually caring about what their customers want to remain.
JrBaconCheeseburger
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Okay Futurist.
I own wireless earbuds/headphones and i bought these with my iPhone having an audio jack.
Still not a reason to remove it, Everyone will now have to buy an adapter to use headphones they already own.
Very anti-consumer no matter how hard you try to defend it.
Dr. Feel Good
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We're at a level where range, battery, and quality are all perfectly acceptable for the general consumer. That's all Apple cares about. If it pushes various industry to create a better standard across the board it's not only good for them but the rest of the companies involved in the industries.
Greatest Ever
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Thin phones.
That being said, I don't mind. My $15 Bluetooth headphones have become my go-to pair, and they don't sound like shit. For podcasts and all especially, I don't mind this one bit.
That being said, I don't mind. My $15 Bluetooth headphones have become my go-to pair, and they don't sound like shit. For podcasts and all especially, I don't mind this one bit.
Beats headphone sales and to stand out from the crowd, just think of the attention good or bad they will get, couldn't buy that. People are too locked in with Apple, they'll take it probably.
I'm sure there will be a breakdown of what it allows going forward but I doubt an extra speaker or bigger battery is the reason, I think they'll probably extend the screen down and remove the home button.
I'm sure there will be a breakdown of what it allows going forward but I doubt an extra speaker or bigger battery is the reason, I think they'll probably extend the screen down and remove the home button.
-Pyromaniac-
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It probably has something to do with their future iphone designs. Maybe the design they're planning next year with the edge to edge display and built in home button and whatnot has to do with it. Maybe it's something else.
Or 50% that and 50% the fact that apple has shown time and time again that they believe the future is completely wireless. The new macbook was a glimpse into that future, removing the headphone jack will propel the wireless earphone market into stepping up their game on that front. They've also not included wireless charging because it's not truly wireless anyway and they are working on actual wireless charging. Pretty obvious that it's the future they envision. Whether you want to climb aboard is up to you.
People who say thinness don't know what they're talking about. This will be just like Flash. Apple will remove it, then there will be a year or two where some OEMs advertise in commercials and stuff that they still have it and all your earphones work with it!! Then a year after that everyone will have gotten rid of it when it's shown that most consumers don't give a shit and will just use what comes with their phone.
Or 50% that and 50% the fact that apple has shown time and time again that they believe the future is completely wireless. The new macbook was a glimpse into that future, removing the headphone jack will propel the wireless earphone market into stepping up their game on that front. They've also not included wireless charging because it's not truly wireless anyway and they are working on actual wireless charging. Pretty obvious that it's the future they envision. Whether you want to climb aboard is up to you.
People who say thinness don't know what they're talking about. This will be just like Flash. Apple will remove it, then there will be a year or two where some OEMs advertise in commercials and stuff that they still have it and all your earphones work with it!! Then a year after that everyone will have gotten rid of it when it's shown that most consumers don't give a shit and will just use what comes with their phone.
SynthFetish
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Regulus Tera
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The reason is money
The reason is always money
The reason is always money
Really, seems like the most rock solid port of all. The lighting connection is going to get wrecked.
juliushandle
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Yup, save money by removing components. Make money by selling adapters and wireless headphones.
WaterAstro
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Of course there's a reason.
wesleyshark
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I'd get the removal if the phone was much thinner. But from the leaks... It doesn't look like it's thin enough to justify removing the jack. I'd imagine whatever iPhone is out next year will be the newly designed one. The removal is to get people used to it earlier maybe?
And also to sell people adapters lol.
And also to sell people adapters lol.
Zantetsuken
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This is why Apple will continue to do what they want. People will camp outside their stores regardless. I'm sticking with my 6s+ for as long as I can.
Lightning Count
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Money.
Now they can sell you a different spec model later with a built in headphone jack for an extortionate price.
For everyone else they will sell adapters and do everything they can to sabotage/undermine any third party who attempts to sell anything similar.
Now they can sell you a different spec model later with a built in headphone jack for an extortionate price.
For everyone else they will sell adapters and do everything they can to sabotage/undermine any third party who attempts to sell anything similar.
-Pyromaniac-
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you're prettttay delusional if you think they will put it back in after taking it out
They haven't done this with anything they've removed and it's dumb to anyway.
The amount of money you guys think apple is going to make from selling adapters is pretty funny. Shit is chump change for them. The vast majority of consumers just use what comes with their phones or will just buy wireless.
The Artisan
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i ain't buying no fuckin beats. Are those the only Bluetooth headphones that'll work with it?
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