No Man's Sky - Early Impressions/Reviews-in-progress Thread

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Riding dinosaurs was an expectation?


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When.... Is it not?
 
Love Jim, but he had a bone to pick with NMS since years ago. Hes not very fond of the game well before playing it.

Love him too, but yeah, when I saw this tweet, I figured it might be something like that:

https://twitter.com/JimSterling/status/762861290696179712

Yeah, Jim, pretty much. But I mean, that's fine, opinions and all. Still agree with the dude most of the time.

Also, Alex Navarro seems to be enjoying the game quite a bit and also looks to be doing the review for GB. Haven't seen much mention of his opinions here.

https://twitter.com/alex_navarro/status/762863789712683009

Someone threatened to kill a jurno who announced the delay, I don't think he means the game is bad I think he means that people got a little too worked up over something we knew was a small team indie game.
 
Ars "Pseduo Review in Progress"

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/08/the-first-dozen-hours-of-no-mans-sky-soaring-past-disappointment/?comments=1

I had to post the comments link because the main link doesn't load for me. Just scroll up.
And, in very bad news, NMS has already proven itself a major content recycler. Every planet I go to has the same "settlement" and "mural" structures, right down to the north-south-east-west positioning of iron-built buildings in a mountain's pit. The dynamic content generators have their limits, and it didn't take me long to find them.

Expected, never been a fan

And it's not like the reviewer has been playing for that long
 
I don't doubt the game has its faults (and won't be for everyone) but I think trying to portray this game as "just another survival game" like the millions of shitty clones on Steam is pretty lame.

It's already proved over the last week it transcends shit like that, in interest alone.
 
I mean damn, why talk like that. As someone said he almost seems to do things to provoke a reaction.

Well he is English, and they all seem to talk like that when criticizing something lol.

IMO, Jim Sterling works best as the role of an attack dog for the injustice of the gaming world... And dancing to Chains of Love.
 
Expected, never been a fan

And it's not like the reviewer has been playing for that long

I wonder how much play testing and focus groups had to do with this. I remember before it was mentioned that one-in-ten planets would have life. Now it seems much greater than that. Having bases and outposts on every planet sounds like the same thing.
 
I feel the same.

Yet I still want to buy it to try it myself lol. It just looks like one of those games I want to at least experience, but not at $60. I can probably pick it up in a year when it hits rock bottom on a PSN sale and will likely be a much improved experience after the patches.

You are a space explorer. Everyone discovering unique worlds and life and sharing their discoveries is pointless? I understand that a sim is not everyone's thing, but the game is far from being a whole bunch of nothing.
 
Well he is English, and they all seem to talk like that when criticizing something lol.

IMO, Jim Sterling works best as the role of an attack dog for the injustice of the gaming world... And dancing to Chains of Love.

I know he is always trying to stir things up, but he often comes out kinda like a "douche" one too many times. I remember recently he made a video calling pretty much all video game producers "fucking idiots"...

I mean... yeah... looks like he is aiming at immature 15 year old "rebels"...
 
I see we're now in the, "discredit contrarian opinions" phase of the Review thread.

LOL, It's okay if someone doesn't like the game.

I can't wait to play it myself as I'm in it for the Euro Truck Simulator in Space vibe. But man, I hate when dissenting opinions are character assassinated.

Watched Jim's short video preview and his complaints were completely justified in a "not every game is for every gamer" kind of way. That's just how it goes, and if you're not in it for the exploration & discovery, it's not going to be a game for you.

And that's...okay.

lol seriously this why is I hate these threads, if someone is hyped for a game, they write off bad impressions as not relevant..
 
So has there been any full details of what exactly you see of other players? Like I remembering hearing people could mine out a planet and it would effect your game? There been anything on that now that it's out?
 
You are a space explorer. Everyone discovering unique worlds and life and sharing their discoveries is pointless? I understand that a sim is not everyone's thing, but the game is far from being a whole bunch of nothing.

It's just an opinion.

An analogy for me would be someone that jumps into their car and just goes for a drive. I jump into the car to go to somewhere specific. There is no right and wrong, I can totally understand someone with a convertible wanting to go for a drive on a summers evening just for the sake of it, the same way I can understand how some people enjoy discovery in games and not being told what to do.

It was obvious that this game was not linear, infact it's main selling point is the exact opposite, the fact that there's so much to potentially see. But for me the things to see just don't seem that interesting. I know there's a goal as such, to reach the centre, but from what I've seen on the videos I ask myself how long the novelty of discovering new planets will last.

Especially as apparently some of the planets being discovered are already similar (according to a few comments from reviews)
 
Every dot is a star with it's own solar system

https://youtu.be/jXAi3wbSMco

I think you probably just saw a single solar system and assumed it was the whole game lol.
I'm relieved. I was worried you'd just be going from colorful planet-filled debris cloud to debris cloud simply represented by stars if you zoom out, and it would never get really pitch-black dark. I want to look into the night skies of countless planets and see countless stars and galaxies I'll probably never visit, but know I could, see countless smaller and bigger suns set and rise.
 
So has there been any full details of what exactly you see of other players? Like I remembering hearing people could mine out a planet and it would effect your game? There been anything on that now that it's out?

I thought it wasthe opposite. Someone could mine out a planet, but it wouldn't affect you. You'd just see stuff that the other player had discovered and named.
 
lol at the people going for jim's throat because he doesn't like a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aLNKkjzoWQ;t=21m46s

so yeah, that's No Man's Sky basically. it's alright so far. I'll be honest, I'm not that excited about it. I mean, fair play to you if you are and you end up playing it and adoring it and finding it encapsulating but so far it hasn't grabbed me by the bollocks. it hasn't really grabbed me at all. just kind of a bit ehh on it. oh well.

how dare he

/s
 
lol seriously this why is I hate these threads, if someone is hyped for a game, they write off bad impressions as not relevant..

If Jim Sterling had said it was the best game in a decade, there wouldn't be one word here discounting his opinions, or talking about how he just makes up fake opinions to get clicks etc. It'd all be about what a tough, knowledgeable reviewer he is, and how they've always trusted him.

I get it, people spent $60 on a preorder, it's human nature to want to prove yourself right after the fact.
 
Isn't that his schtick these days?

Hates everything everyone else loves?

I sorta get those vibes from his "let's play" videos.

I think Jim is just very adverse to hype. I get the sense that he's cynical enough that he doesn't get hyped for games anymore and doesn't let hype cloud his judgment when it comes to covering a game. I don't think he hates popular games, it's not like he gave Uncharted 4 a 3/10 or anything.

As for why he hates a lot of stuff in his YT vids, just look at the shit he's playing.
 
Can anyone confirm if HOTAS is supported? Would love to use my X55 for flying and then switch to KB+M for walking around.

Well I guess because the PC version isnt out, and we have heard nothing on the version excpet that its coming and will feature 21:9 and FOV sliders, nope.
 
What is important/remarkable about the discoveries?

Discovering unique and actual planet-sized worlds that nobody else has seen is pretty amazing to me. Same goes with a new life form or the mystery of the alien artifacts. It is about the sense of discovery and the awe of traveling in space. If that is not your thing, then you would probably be better off playing something else.
 
I feel the same.

Yet I still want to buy it to try it myself lol. It just looks like one of those games I want to at least experience, but not at $60.

I can probably pick it up in a year when it hits rock bottom on a PSN sale and will likely be a much improved experience after the patches.

I have not played it, but I this is pretty much the way I feel. Someone earlier mentioned exploration like in Fallout 3 or 4 which I very much enjoyed. But at the same time, I always had the narrative that drove me through the game, all the while if I saw something off in the distance that was interesting I would take a side turn to check it out. This "seems" like all side turns with a hint of narrative/story. Being an older gamer with a family, it is rare I can take the time to "get lost" in a game just for the sake of getting lost.

Rarely do I get a chance to get lost in games so for me, I will probably have to wait till its dirt cheap.
 
I thought it wasthe opposite. Someone could mine out a planet, but it wouldn't affect you. You'd just see stuff that the other player had discovered and named.

Yeah:

You won't really be able to leave a physical mark on the game, however, at least not on the universe at large. As you travel to new planets, they are generated around you, and when you leave them, they degenerate. So, if you use a mining tool to blast a section of a planet, perhaps to draw a giant penis on the ground (I will just assume that is what you will do), once you leave that planet and fly away, the game will once again disassemble the planet behind you.

These types of changes (digging caves, drawing dongs) will not be visible to other players if they happen to visit that planet. As Murray told Game Zone:

“Changes the player makes are saved locally,” Murray explained. “So if you start destructing the terrain, that’s saved on your own machine. And if you try and make -- what we would consider -- really significant [changes], some of those [changes] are stored on the server, along with the discoveries that you make. But in general, a lot of what you’re doing is considered insignificant. If you kill a creature, we scratch that, we save that that’s happened, but we don’t feel the need to like, kill that creature for everybody.”
 
If Jim Sterling had said it was the best game in a decade, there wouldn't be one word here discounting his opinions, or talking about how he just makes up fake opinions to get clicks etc. It'd all be about what a tough, knowledgeable reviewer he is, and how they've always trusted him.

I get it, people spent $60 on a preorder, it's human nature to want to prove yourself right after the fact.

Bullcrap, either way he'd lose -- people would attack his position because of the nature of this game. Stop pretending that the wind only blows one way with this game. There have been haters and supporters from the beginning -- neither side having played the game.
 
To be honest, I don't think this game is for me, I know I'd get bored and feel instant regret if I bought it.

But that Jim Sterling does seem to go over the top. Like when he summed up Black Ops 3 by saying

I mean damn, why talk like that. As someone said he almost seems to do things to provoke a reaction.
Sterling is playing a role. It's his job to make crazy statements that have hints of truth in them, like the COD statement. That's his shtick but at least he's honest. That BLOPS3 campaign deserves every insult thrown at it too.
 
Discovering unique and actual planet-sized worlds that nobody else has seen is pretty amazing to me. Same goes with a new life form or the mystery of the alien artifacts. It is about the sense of discovery and the awe of traveling in space. If that is not your thing, then you would probably be better off playing something else.

Sure I get that, even though I've personally not seen anything remarkable discovered yet, but then you're just taking that away from someone by sharing it.
 
Discovering unique and actual planet-sized worlds that nobody else has seen is pretty amazing to me. Same goes with a new life form or the mystery of the alien artifacts. It is about the sense of discovery and the awe of traveling in space. If that is not your thing, then you would probably be better off playing something else.

Yep yep.

People get the same giddiness with Fallout 4 running around discovering shit that is even more meaningless in comparison, even Jim Sterling. ;)

(inserts - my opinion as the deflection to criticism that seems to be a narrative on both sides)

Bullcrap, either way he'd lose -- people would attack his position because of the nature of this game. Stop pretending that the wind only blows one way with this game. There have been haters and supporters from the beginning -- neither side having played the game.

Agreed.

Sure I get that, even though I've personally not seen anything remarkable discovered yet, but then you're just taking that away from someone by sharing it.

No you are not, because the chances of someone discovering the same thing is far less than winning the lottery, or getting bit by a shark on land.

That is part of the fun, sharing these experiences/discoveries with others, seeing the different places, fauna, flora, in which you more than likely will never see in your lifetime's experience with the game. People are still failing to grasp how massive this universe is.
 
I've been trying to keep myself in the dark about this game as much as I could. So let me ask you, is there any sort of "base building" element in the game? Besides improving your ship, that is. Can I make a planet my "base", build structures in it and turn it into my HQ? Or does the gameplay loop consist on finding a new planet, extracting resources, finding another new planet?

Edit: If you want me to be more blunt: can I play this like I play Minecraft, but in space?
 
What is important/remarkable about the discoveries?

One of my favorite games last gen was an import called Aquanaut's Holiday for the PS3. You were a diver. You went into the ocean and photographed/discovered fish. That's all. There was a weird story involving the disappearance of...something. I don't even remember because it wasn't that important to me. I just wanted to go into the ocean and discover shit. It didn't even have the ability for me to name and upload things to a centralized database; it was entirely single player. What was important/remarkable about them was that I found them.
 
No you are not, because the chances of someone discovering the same thing is far less than winning the lottery, or getting bit by a shark on land.

That is part of the fun, sharing this experiences with others, seeing the different places, fauna, flora, in which you more than likely will never see in your lifetime's experience with the game.

So you're not taking it away from someone because no one will ever find the same spot but sharing discoveries is awesome because ____?

One of my favorite games last gen was an import called Aquanaut's Holiday for the PS3. You were a diver. You went into the ocean and photographed/discovered fish. That's all. There was a weird story involving the disappearance of...something. I don't even remember because it wasn't that important to me. I just wanted to go into the ocean and discover shit. It didn't even have the ability for me to name and upload things to a centralized database; it was entirely single player. What was important/remarkable about them was that I found them.
that doesn't answer the question, that says discovering shit is fun not why discovering what you discovered is remarkable.
Heck I get a kick out of finding a cave with lava in Minecraft.
 
Seems as though every planet is just one biome? No variation within a planet? I guess that encourages you to move on to the next planet since you basically see everything a planet has to offer in a very short time.
 
As someone excited to play this on Friday I really don't see the problem with what that Jim dude is saying, or what most here are saying. If you like what you see of the game, you can't expect everyone else to like it as well and if you don't like what you see then don't act all superior because others do.

Yes it looks pretty shallow, I am disappointed the flight controls aren't simulation style like Elite but it looks like the type of game I put on for an hour or two to relax and unwind. I don't have an issue with the resource collection thing as the last game I played like that was Terraria close to its release.

I'm just going to put some music or a podcast on and go exploring. That's all I really wanted from this game.
 
I've been trying to keep myself in the dark about this game as much as I could. So let me ask you, is there any sort of "base building" element in the game? Besides improving your ship, that is. Can I make a planet my "base", build structures in it and turn it into my HQ? Or does the gameplay loop consist on finding a new planet, extracting resources, finding another new planet?

Edit: If you want me to be more blunt: can I play this like I play Minecraft, but in space?

Sean Murray said just this weekend that they are adding Base Building and Personal Freighter Ships to the game in a future update, but they won't be available at launch.

http://www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/update-1-03/

Next up we’re adding the ability to build bases and own giant space freighters. Temporal AA and my new cloud rendering tech should be coming soon too. It will really change the game again, and enhance it visually.
 
Been playing it a ton.

There's not a lot remarkable to discover and the planets are very samey.


And yet I love it - you have to be able to enjoy really small discoveries to get down w this game.
 
The whole premise of the game has always been flawed to me. The game is mainly about exploration, but exploration needs to be rewarding to be compelling. I just don't see the reward or the draw here. The landscapes you discover are not even beautiful to look at. The game isn't really pretty and the generated planets are very dull and samey looking to me, very few screenshots or videos have captured my imagination. Why should I care to go to the next dull and empty planet?
The whole immersion factor just isn't working, all I see is randomly generated terrain with the same elements assembled slightly differently or with a new color, not actual and interesting places.
 
Isn't that his schtick these days?

Hates everything everyone else loves?

I sorta get those vibes from his "let's play" videos.

There in lies your issue. A perception issue.

Everyone never loves everything.

I'm holding off buying this as retail prices for physical have been shit in the UK. Paying over £40? lolno.
 
I've been trying to keep myself in the dark about this game as much as I could. So let me ask you, is there any sort of "base building" element in the game? Besides improving your ship, that is. Can I make a planet my "base", build structures in it and turn it into my HQ? Or does the gameplay loop consist on finding a new planet, extracting resources, finding another new planet?

Edit: If you want me to be more blunt: can I play this like I play Minecraft, but in space?

From what I understand nothing like that is possible, though apperantly there are some base building elements planned for the future.

The gameplay loop is find planet, extract resources, find new planet until you reach center, with some trading and combat now and then.
 
As someone excited to play this on Friday I really don't see the problem with what that Jim dude is saying, or what most here are saying. If you like what you see of the game, you can't expect everyone else to like it as well and if you don't like what you see then don't act all superior because others do.

Yes it looks pretty shallow, I am disappointed the flight controls aren't simulation style like Elite but it looks like the type of game I put on for an hour or two to relax and unwind. I don't have an issue with the resource collection thing as the last game I played like that was Terraria close to its release.

I'm just going to put some music or a podcast on and go exploring. That's all I really wanted from this game.


65daysofstatic dude...
 
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