Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I hope he loses in the widest margin imaginable so the very idea of following in his footsteps will be seen as political suicide.
Donald Trump suggests 2nd Amendment Folks do something about Hillary
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Republicans will only have themselves to blame if they lose the House and/or Senate because of Trump.
Not many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
Almost half of them claim to have seen a video that doesn't exist holy shit
Brainwashed doesn't even begin to describe it
The Lamonster
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I do think there will be violence in November. Whether it's someone blowing up polling places or enraged Trump supporters after he loses...something is inevitably going to happen.
I don't think it will be organized in any way, though.
I don't think it will be organized in any way, though.
water_wendi
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If violence is coming it will be after the election. My guess is the inauguration.
That is a concern of mine. To be frank, that principle has been dashed for decades. The Republicans are way too far right wing for there to be any sense of compromise with them. Not that I like compromise. I very much don't in the first place when we have submitted fully to the right-wing for way too long to the detriment of the people.
There's maybe still time to invent and construct a time machine to travel back and distract Trump from ever running, but they've ended up wedged in a truly unwinnable situation now where the best they can hope for is downticket politicians figuring out the most efficient way to pander to voters in their area.
Trump's base won't win him the election, but a substantial part of the US is leaping at the chance to vote for the outsider man of the people The Establishment is trying to keep down. Replacing him as the nominee would turn those voters against the party and likely have wider and longer-lasting implications than just losing the election. The GOP can't win without them. Keeping him is pushing away the saner moderate voters. So you end up with individual politicians siding with or ditching Trump depending on what their constituents think of him (some for moral reasons, but as we get closer to the election I think you'll see more and more GOP figures from Trump-hostile areas denouncing him), but the party as a whole is at this point powerless to do anything to fix the situation they created by building the future Trump base over the past couple decades. The absolute best they can hope for is figuring of a nominee for 2020 that can reach Trump's diehards without being Trump level crazy.
Yeah I hope we don't see vigilantes at polls to try to dissuade "voter fraud".
Also anyone who claims Hillary is literally the devil is a follower of his and no Christian.
Lys Skygge
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This is terrifying. I usually like to think the best of people...but this is discouragingNot many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
echoshifting
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Absolutely, it's huge.
This is terrifying. I usually like to think the best of people...but this is discouraging
I've been discouraged by these people for years now. They're just revealing their true nature more openly.
ElectricBlanketFire
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It's the lead story on the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc...
It's very bigly.
CopperPuppy
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Not many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
Yeah, this is chilling stuff.
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For what it's worth, I live in the UK and they were talking about it on the radio this morning
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Not many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
Holy shit
Not many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
My question is, Is Donald Trump aware what he has created and the dangers of this?
Aaronology
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America survived the Presidency of a black man named Hussein and one who many in the GOP accused of being foreign born. I think you two are being more than a little alarmist without much perspective. America is not headed for a "Civil War" or anything like it; we're far too integrated and apathetic a society. A huge swath of this country doesn't even bother to vote but you think there's going to be a mass uprising...?
Nah.
My buddy is an exchange student and just came back from vacation in his home country. He said the entire time people were asking him WTF was going on since he goes to school here and has a bit more insight.
NealMcCauley
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This is terrifying. I usually like to think the best of people...but this is discouraging
I guess it's because of where I grew up, but this is same old same old. Some people are proud of ignorance.
There's one guy on Facebook that I went to school with who's gay as a rainbow but hates the Democrats for destroying the coal industry and his family's way of life.
RustyNails
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This is a true confederacy of the dunces.Not many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
He has a history of fanning racial tensions, violent mob justice and participating in conspiracy theory nonsense. He's not only aware, he's probably glad to have united like-minded morons.
If you think about it, it shouldnt really surprise anyone. White identity politics and white nationalism is pure tribalism. If you consider someone part of your tribe and they are being 'attacked' by someone who is not then you will believe what your guy says.
Bad things happen when that tribe's media has been spouting bullshit, hatred and conspiracy theories for a long time that has now found a voice in their presidential candidate.
Bad things happen when that tribe's media has been spouting bullshit, hatred and conspiracy theories for a long time that has now found a voice in their presidential candidate.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I don't give a shit about what his core supporters think. Trump could force someone to eat a bowl of dog food on TV at gunpoint and they wouldn't care. I'm talking about the more moderate parts of the Republican party that's bothered by his behavior but is too bitch made to speak out against it directly.
water_wendi
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There doesnt need to be a mass uprising. There just needs to be a couple dozen armored men to crash the inauguration to plunge the nation into complete chaos for weeks. You may think things are just going to simmer down.. i am not confident of that.
QuantumZebra
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This is 100% true.
SporeCrawler
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Not many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
In other words trump voters will believe trump no matter how factually wrong the statement is
yet? it's all over the place. front page news on major news sites.
balladofwindfishes
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Not many people seem to see things like this but i agree with you. For those that are unconvinced here a snippet from the Public Policy Polling press release from yesterday:
People better start to get hip to whats coming or else they are going to get blindsided in a bad way.
This is why his "joke" about assassinated Hillary or her justices is so dangerous. These people are completely delusional.
RustyNails
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The entire Republican party is undergoing stockholm syndrome at the moment. Out of 54 senators 2 said they wont vote for him. Both from hippy blue liberal states. John McCain is still happy with Trump's nomination.
SporeCrawler
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Because you dont want to be associated with someone who suggest you would resort to
Violence if you cant reach your goal with political means?
Aaronology
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"Complete chaos for weeks" is not the same as civil war, though, nevermind how unlikely I think a militia storming the inauguration would be.
While I'd hope that such an event never comes to pass, I feel that the possibility of some form of insurrection might be somewhat possible. We've already seen what people like Timothy McVeigh and the Bundys can do by themselves. The threat of Sovereign Citizens and other militia groups has been latent and largely ignored in the US for decades, and like so many other things, it could easily come back to bite us if we don't take precautions.
Though if worst does come to worst and full on conflict erupts, there won't be any single line of battle drawn like in the 1860's. Instead, the fight will be between the rural and the urban all across the country. There's plenty of sentiment similar to the Southern states in the backwoods of Pennsylvania, New York, and pretty much anywhere else with a low population density. If they really do hear the call for blood, they'll be more than happy to target those Gun Free Zones they always decry, especially if it instills the same fear of education in youth that Trump supporters already have.
Good. It's pretty clear that Trump has his 30-35% cult that is locked in for him, but everyone else seems to be growing disgusted with him.
Even that what he is doing could actually make people killed?, or he is too far gone to even blame his base in case some atrocity is committed by his suporters?
This is the point whee a good Wife and Good family come in, is her wife just just an ornament,or does she really stand for behind what his word say? does his kids to? I just find it hard to believe people could be so far lost to not notice that this is basically cartoon villany.
This is just ugly, the damage is already done even if Trump doesnt win, he mobilized and empowered the wrong group of people, who knows maybe Donald Trump os really a Klans member, you know just saying, I hear things...
RedAssedApe
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Happy to see trump tweeting about Dan bongos. Now more people get to see another trump surrogate get savaged on air.
100% agree. Nothing happened during Obama's presidency and no Trump's dumb supporters are going to start killing people if he doesn't win? Doubt it. I really believe a large swath of his supporters hate politics and will tune out after he loses until the next presidential election.
AngmarsKing701
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Time to make a list of all the Republicans who have endorsed him and vote them the fuck out.
Angelus Errare
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Nothing will happen I feel. Like had a black man elected and nothing happened. I doubt a white woman being elected will result in anything.
Now if Obama had run against Trump with this much crazy, racism, xenophia, transphobia? Yea I definitely could see white riots breaking out the country over.
Now if Obama had run against Trump with this much crazy, racism, xenophia, transphobia? Yea I definitely could see white riots breaking out the country over.
banefirelord
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Some of Clinton's convention bump fading and between the Khantroversy and yesterday Trump had a relatively calm week or so, so it's to be expected. I imagine this whole shitshow won't do him any polling favors in a week or two.
LegendofJoe
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There's some evidence that Donald's father was a klan member, so I wouldn't be shocked if he was too.
http://www.vice.com/read/all-the-ev...-fred-trumps-alleged-involvement-with-the-kkk
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
At least the GOP knows Trump talks like a 4th grader.
At least the GOP knows Trump talks like a 4th grader.
I've seen people with smartphones and I presume the internet (based off the amount of friendly folks on facebook), why don't people ever bother google searching stuff?
Is it weird to want to do some quick searches about anything that comes out of any politicians mouth?
Heck why did people even start trusting Trump in the first place? Thought the rich are the least trustworthy folks, no matter what your class or ethnicity is, is pretty universal?
Is it weird to want to do some quick searches about anything that comes out of any politicians mouth?
Heck why did people even start trusting Trump in the first place? Thought the rich are the least trustworthy folks, no matter what your class or ethnicity is, is pretty universal?
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"I'm having a hard time following your logoc"
Given Trump's lack of motivation to tell the truth or concede when he's wrong and his "blind to all but him" base, there's very little that can be done.
If he was arrested violence world inevitably ensue.
If he was assassinated he'd become a martyr and even greater violence would follow
If he lost the election, then given the wonderfully woven narrative of "rigged" election, local pockets of violence will likely erupt
If he won the election, then well...
The man is quite untouchable at this time.
If he was arrested violence world inevitably ensue.
If he was assassinated he'd become a martyr and even greater violence would follow
If he lost the election, then given the wonderfully woven narrative of "rigged" election, local pockets of violence will likely erupt
If he won the election, then well...
The man is quite untouchable at this time.
538's model is extremely sensitive to individual polls. A couple of polls (new ones that haven't polled anything in awhile) came out last night that "only" had Clinton up by like 5-6% rather than 8-10% which hits their models pretty hard.
A day or two ago, I think the Marrist poll that had Clinton up by 13% moved their model like 4% in her direction.
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