NYT: Republicans close to Trump say he's "exhausted, frustrated and bewildered"

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kevin1025

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Gotta be honest. He came off deflated for the last couple of weeks. His desperate attempt at establishing "founder of Isis" as a thing similar to Crooked Hillary, Dishonest Media or Little Marco, clearly shows he is running out of ideas as to how to stop his free fall in the polls.

Yeah, on Thursday I believe, he did two "speeches" and came off as exhausted and almost depressed. Since then, he's fallen into displaying weird graphs and charts, waving them emphatically to the point no one could possibly read what they are about, especially beyond fifteen feet. He even said, last night during a rally, "I wanna get the hell out of here. I want to go home!" That's definitely how you make a crowd feel loved.

He's going on and on about cheating, and even accepting the possibility of losing, something Donald Trump could never in his life fathom.

I think the bombardment approach has finally hit its mark on him.
 

Rubenov

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Not that it would've made much of a difference, but Trump should've kept his focus on Hillary. Every political opponent Obama has ever had has ended up defeated, usually through self-inflicted wounds.
 
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GOOD.

may the downfall be sobering and unpleasant. Fool of a man.
 

danm999

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The dawning he's going to lose badly on Trump is likely why he's going on about the election being rigged recently. But that is likely to also depress his turnout of his base thinks there's no point.
 
Hillary doesn't even have to say anything, Trump just beat himself up. Of course, most of Hillary's news are not good news either.
 
I believe all these stories are made up, so many republicans want him out, republicans are in dissray, distraiahxtnews stores.

They are just publicly of you ask me. These threads pop up like every four or five days and you see trump did or said this every three days. I bet we have more trump threads than anything else period.

It's what people are hearing.
 

Chittagong

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To this day I can not understand how the two candidates United States of America was able to produce for its next president are Trump and Clinton. I mean, holy shit, it's hard to imagine a worse lineup.
 

Sydle

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Hillary doesn't even have to say anything, Trump just beat himself up. Of course, most of Hillary's news are not good news either.

I think she could bait him into a tantrum just by glancing his way with a smirk on her face.

I cannot wait to see her play with him over the next few months.
 
Is it truly too late to right the Trump ship? I mean it's only August and he still has a few months left. You think people's negative perception of Trump is pretty baked in at this point?
 

kevin1025

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Not that it would've made much of a difference, but Trump should've kept his focus on Hillary. Every political opponent Obama has ever had has ended up defeated, usually through self-inflicted wounds.

There was a rally right after the Clinton Foundation news came out two days back, and he said "I won't get into it" after mentioning it. This is just guessing, but the way he mentioned it and phrased was almost like he didn't want to get into it because he didn't fully understand it.

Is it truly too late to right the Trump ship? I mean it's only August and he still has a few months left. You think people's negative perception of Trump is pretty baked in at this point?

I think if they stuck a teleprompter to him, he would be okay for a few days, but he would see dwindling crowds and would break off script and do something crazy. If you watch the crowd behind him at his rallies, it's almost like he isn't really the main draw. A lot of the crowd is scanning around like they're waiting for protestors so they can go nuts. If he stuck to his message, those people would walk out.
 

Inuhanyou

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This is why i always thought trump was just a distraction to the more important issues. He was never going to win when push came to shove, regardless of who was the democratic challenger because he was never going to pull himself together to gain enough of the electorate, his GOP numbers were nothing to the general electorate.
 
Gotta be honest. He came off deflated for the last couple of weeks. His desperate attempt at establishing "founder of Isis" as a thing similar to Crooked Hillary, Dishonest Media or Little Marco, clearly shows he is running out of ideas as to how to stop his free fall in the polls.

The fact he's throwing out so many random accusations is a sign to me that he knows he's losing. He's trying to find something, anything, that will stick, because that's how it worked in the primaries; he would say something outrageous, everyone would complain, his base would love him for it, and he then be carted off to victory.

Now he's doing the same thing in the general, but the effect is the complete opposite; he's losing support rather than gaining it and his gaffes and remarks are being treated with much more criticism and derision than he ever got in the primary.

He can't (or won't) comprehend that what worked in the primary won't work in the general, and that just because his base loves him doesn't mean everyone else will. For better or worse a number of people treated his behavior in the primaries as either showmanship or exaggerations for the sake of the base. Then the convention happened and those same people saw that who he "pretended" to be turned out to be who he actually was.
 

Link

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To this day I can not understand how the two candidates United States of America was able to produce for its next president are Trump and Clinton. I mean, holy shit, it's hard to imagine a worse lineup.
I always have an amused smile on my face whenever someone throws this gem out there.
 

Toparaman

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Is it truly too late to right the Trump ship? I mean it's only August and he still has a few months left. You think people's negative perception of Trump is pretty baked in at this point?

Most people have short-term memory, so no, it's not too late. If he does well in the debates his numbers will go up. By and large, public figures are judged by the last thing they did.
 

Apathy

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No...no...this is just a bad comparison. Trump's actually entertaining...

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made me laugh at least
 

User1608

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I always have an amused smile on my face whenever someone throws this gem out there.
Indeed. It bears repeating: that type of comment shows one has absolutely no idea and perspective when they think both Hillary and Trump are equivalent or even close to being as such.
 
Most people have short-term memory, so no, it's not too late. If he does well in the debates his numbers will go up. By and large, public figures are judged by the last thing they did.

Trump literally has no platform or policies. He's stupid. He's a stupid man with almost no grasp on any actual real world issues. How in the world do you expect him to do well in debates against a pro like Hillary?
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
To this day I can not understand how the two candidates United States of America was able to produce for its next president are Trump and Clinton. I mean, holy shit, it's hard to imagine a worse lineup.
You don't know what you're talking about if you'd compare the two. Might as well compare Steph curry and Bobby from the JV team
 
Trump literally has no platform or policies. He's stupid. He's a stupid man with almost no grasp on any actual real world issues. How in the world do you expect him to do well in debates against a pro like Hillary?

He just needs to buckle down and spontaneously generate the patience, work ethic, and intellectual curiosity necessary for intense study and practice that, by all indications, he has lacked for his entire adult life as a result of his overly-privileged and insulated upbringing.

I'm sure it won't be a problem. Lots of 70 year old men do it.
 

4Tran

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To this day I can not understand how the two candidates United States of America was able to produce for its next president are Trump and Clinton. I mean, holy shit, it's hard to imagine a worse lineup.
Clinton was the strongest of the potential Democratic candidates. Her only competition was Biden, and he didn't want to run. None of the other prominent Democrats ran either; largely because they didn't think that they could beat her. From the outside, Clinton may look weak because she has high negatives, but she also has a lot of advantages over just about everyone else.

Trump is a different story; he got there by being a nativist and by leveraging strong populist messages. His candidacy is the end result of all the propaganda that the Republican power brokers have spouted for the last two decades.

Is it truly too late to right the Trump ship? I mean it's only August and he still has a few months left. You think people's negative perception of Trump is pretty baked in at this point?
The only way for Trump to change his campaign is for Trump himself to change. How likely do you think that is? :)
 

Man God

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Trump does not have a good ground game. Barely functioning in a lot of battle ground states. He didn't even get his funding straitened out until right around the RNC, though he should be okay on that, might have to pay out the nose for ads though.

The media, which was his strongest edge in the primaries, is now his worst enemy. Well, his worst enemy besides his twitter account.
 

Biske

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Trump does not have a good ground game. Barely functioning in a lot of battle ground states. He didn't even get his funding straitened out until right around the RNC, though he should be okay on that, might have to pay out the nose for ads though.

The media, which was his strongest edge in the primaries, is now his worst enemy. Well, his worst enemy besides his twitter account.

Seems Trump really isn't going to go for ads.

Haven't seen any Trump ads. Ever, not a single one.

Seen tons of Hillary ads during the Olympics.
 
Trump does not have a good ground game. Barely functioning in a lot of battle ground states. He didn't even get his funding straitened out until right around the RNC, though he should be okay on that, might have to pay out the nose for ads though.

The media, which was his strongest edge in the primaries, is now his worst enemy. Well, his worst enemy besides his twitter account.

Barely functioning is the most generous possible comment you could make about his ground game. He's actually building nothing. He put it all on the GOP, and they've done shit, because it's too much work. Like, even if they build the best thing in the world, if the campaign won't coordinate or stay on script, it's useless.
 
To this day I can not understand how the two candidates United States of America was able to produce for its next president are Trump and Clinton. I mean, holy shit, it's hard to imagine a worse lineup.

There is really nothing wrong with Clinton except two, fake scandals and maybe some shady but relatively par-for-the-course shit with the Clinton foundation and State Dept thing and that hasn't even been proven.

This notion that Clinton is such a terrible candidate is absolute horseshit based on mostly lies and a media that decided to go along with the narrative. She's made mistakes but she is intelligent, reasonable, and possibly one of the most qualified candidates in history.

The other factor is that people feel obligated to say she's "as bad as Trump" to try and look impartial. Fucking nonsense.
 

gaugebozo

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Most people have short-term memory, so no, it's not too late. If he does well in the debates his numbers will go up. By and large, public figures are judged by the last thing they did.
You're forgetting that Donald Trump is Donald Trump. He's been acting like this for decades. The last thing he did is always going to be a Donald Trump thing. The debates in particular are going to be a mess. He can't learn decades of policy experience in a month, so he has to fall back on stuff like, "Obama founded ISIS, gun owners can stop Hillary, etc..."
 

Sheroking

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Most people have short-term memory, so no, it's not too late. If he does well in the debates his numbers will go up. By and large, public figures are judged by the last thing they did.

You think there's a snowballs chance in hell that Trump is going to do well in a debate against Clinton?

They're going to make the Biden/Palin debate look competitive by comparison.
 
Most people have short-term memory, so no, it's not too late. If he does well in the debates his numbers will go up. By and large, public figures are judged by the last thing they did.

There's no way he can do well in a debate. And short term memory won't help Trump when he consistently says stupid things multiple times a week.
 

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It's like we were all living in the Bizarroverse for 8 months and in July scientists found a way to get us home
 

Korigama

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Sitting with Mr. Rove in the Manhattan apartment of a mutual friend, the casino magnate Steve Wynn, Mr. Trump said he would compete in states like Oregon, which has not voted Republican since Ronald Reagan’s 1984 landslide.
LMAO, as stupid as he is delusional.
 

Zukkoyaki

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I can't embed the Tweet since I'm on my phone but Nate Silver Tweeted this earlier:

"In USC/LATimes poll, Trump supporters' likelihood of voting has fallen a bunch over past week. His "rigged" message may depress his turnout."

Interesting... If Trump continues to seem deflated, this has potential to snowball. Or it could be nothing. Something interesting nonetheless.
 

m3k

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He just needs to buckle down and spontaneously generate the patience, work ethic, and intellectual curiosity necessary for intense study and practice that, by all indications, he has lacked for his entire adult life as a result of his overly-privileged and insulated upbringing.

I'm sure it won't be a problem. Lots of 70 year old men do it.
well done haha
 

Stinkles

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To this day I can not understand how the two candidates United States of America was able to produce for its next president are Trump and Clinton. I mean, holy shit, it's hard to imagine a worse lineup.


Hillary is tarnished, partly because of her own actions and partly because of a multimillion dollar decades long and highly organized assault on her character. But she's perfectly well qualified.

My primary concern with her ability has more to do with how Congress is going to contort itself to make her fail.

And secondly I object to political dynasties on principle.

But ability? She's arguably one of the best bridge builders and dealmakers in the last ridiculous decade of obstruction and organized smearing.

Is she perfect? Of course not but she's simply not even comparable to trump. Even if you're an idealist she's still receiving a BMW when you asked for a Rolls Royce. Trump is a burning Pontiac Aztek.
 

Brannon

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To this day I can not understand how the two candidates United States of America was able to produce for its next president are Trump and Clinton. I mean, holy shit, it's hard to imagine a worse lineup.

Pretty confident statements like this wouldn't exist if an entire #1 news network and an entire political party didn't spend billions of dollars and over two decades assaulting her non-stop.

I'd bet hard money on it.

I mean, that much concerted, unrelenting effort will make at least some people flinch, but it's still sad that such a transparent scheme actually worked at all.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
What a coincidence.

I'm exhausted, frustrated, and bewildered at the stupidity of Donald Trump, the republican party / base, and the electorate.

Donald Trump is probably going to end up winning 20-23 states. he shouldn't be winning 1.
 
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