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[abstract alien]

I can't believe how many people care about vs cpu... seems like the most useless feature.

That's what I was thinking. Nearly every mode is vs CPU in some form or fashion, so I don't really get the appeal. The AI is horrific, and it's terrible for learning how to play. I guess people like what they like though. May as well put it in just to fill the option.


Also, this RQ situation is still just silly. Just ban them for at least 48hrs and get it over with. Also, would it be possible to stat track someone's connection data during a match, so you can see how consistent it is as far as crazy fluctuations and whatnot? When those fluctuations happen during a round, etc?

 

[mnz]

The rumor said that Sagat would be in the July update, which didn't happen. We also didn't get any free (as in, no need to pay real money or Fight Money) stages or costumes in the July update.

As for the Sagat tease, if I had to guess, that's probably our first Season 2 tease.

Yeah, like I said. That rumor post was half right. It mentioned a few things that actually happened. I'm still holding out. Sagat exists and they're looking for a cool way to release him.

 

[Neoxon]

Ono posting a Sagat teaser wasn't a rumor.

Decapre is basically done.

Hence why I said that Sagat's probably one of the first Season 2 characters.

As for Decapre, her model (while somewhat detailed) isn't as detailed as the actual playable characters. Likewise, she's missing a V-Trigger, a Critical Art, & I think some of her special moves & normals from USFIV.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Decapre is basically done.

The dolls would be a pretty inexpensive way to pad the roster, especially since they did all that work for story mode already.

 

[Acerac]

lol, it's like we were all beta testers who paid for access. The game is almost finished boys!

*Nods*

It's the same situation with WoW where everyone who played for the previous 10 years has just been beta testing. Unfortunately that game isn't close to being finished, so it's probably best to wait to get in to it yet.

I can't believe how many people care about vs cpu... seems like the most useless feature.

It allows people to play against an opponent without a significant challenge. Do not underestimate how huge that is.

 

[Neoxon]

The character pacing's been accelerated from the roadmap. There's a mystery costume. Something's up, and that something is likely an extra character (or characters.)

I thought the same thing at first when Capcom revealed the mystery costume, but then Capcom said "All 22 characters" as far as the CPT colors were concerned.

 

[JayEH]

Keep Decapre out of the game. Put in another doll if you want but keep her away.

 

[MattXIII]

SFV is def one of my most played games this year, just hope the ps4 version gets a Neo patch later this year. That ugly shadow dithering must die.

 

[Neoxon]

Keep Decapre out of the game. Put in another doll if you want but keep her away.

I mean, if you had to put one of the Dolls in the game, Decapre would probably be the best choice on account of the fact that she's more unique than the others.

 

[JayEH]

I mean, if you had to put one of the Dolls in the game, Decapre would probably be the best choice on account of the fact that she's more unique than the others.

It's just the most boring thing to do. She was in last game I don't see the need for her to be in again so soon.

 

[Neoxon]

SFV is def one of my most played games this year, just hope the ps4 version gets a Neo patch later this year. That ugly shadow dithering must die.

This, please. I'm currently considering trading my PS4 for the Neo, & the Neo getting rid of the PS4 version's shadow dithering would seal the deal for me.

 

[Wavebossa]

I'm ready to pull the trigger on this the second they add direct input.

Can anyone confirm if this has even been fixed in an unofficial way? (aside from xpadder or similar services)

 

[kirblar]

I thought the same thing at first when Capcom revealed the mystery costume, but then Capcom said "All 22 characters" as far as the CPT colors were concerned.

I mean, they're not going to say 23 and tip their hand if Urien's August and a bonus is in September.

 

[Neoxon]

It's just the most boring thing to do. She was in last game I don't see the need for her to be in again so soon.

But at the same time, if you were to get another character out this year before Season 2, Decapre would be a good solution to get a character done quickly (more so considering that Capcom already did half of the work for Decapre in the Cinematic Story Mode).

 

[Hellshingu]

That's what I was thinking. Nearly every mode is vs CPU in some form or fashion, so I don't really get the appeal. The AI is horrific, and it's terrible for learning how to play. I guess people like what they like though. May as well put it in just to fill the option.


Also, this RQ situation is still just silly. Just ban them for at least 48hrs and get it over with. Also, would it be possible to stat track someone's connection data during a match, so you can see how consistent it is as far as crazy fluctuations and whatnot? When those fluctuations happen during a round, etc?

People ("casuals") like to feel like they are decent at the game and can defeat opponents at their leisure. While I won't ever touch VS CPU or an arcade mode in pretty much any fighter there are those who will buy it just based on if the game includes it alone.

A lot of casuals have the notion that every player online is a professional gamer and they will get destroyed and have no fun. The funny thing is playing at such a low level with others players they would probably do better than going against normal CPU which can read inputs and do decent damage combos which most casual players cannot consistently or even perform in the first place. They don't want to learn the game or get better at it they just want to feel like they're "good".

On topic:

I am sure they will release Urien info sometime later this week. Gamescom is a big stage to show a trailer and have him playable on the floor. The blog post made it seem like they have more up their sleeve to reveal as the time draws near.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Fuck Sagat

As for Decapre, her model (while somewhat detailed) isn't as detailed as the actual playable characters. Likewise, she's missing a V-Trigger, a Critical Art, & I think some of her special moves & normals from USFIV.

Her model is literally as detailed as any of the other playable characters, the dolls costume design is just bland, her polygon count itself perse isn't any lower than say cammy.
Juri and Ibuki are "missing" moves too, that doesn't mean shit; I've played decapre extensively in 4 and in 5 training mode, all she's really missing is the super and V stuff.

 

[Romars202129]

Keep Decapre out of the game. Put in another doll if you want but keep her away.

Could be a Baracka/Rain situation, but I seriously doubt it. If she wasn't in, they wouldn't have put her in story.

 

[DarkConfidant]

Laughable it took this long for Vs. CPU.

Holy shit! Finally I don't have to go to training and turn the dummy to CPU every time.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Could be a Baracka/Rain situation, but I seriously doubt it. If she wasn't in, they wouldn't have put her in story.

moreso they could've just given her the treatment as the other dolls, but they basically made her a full character with all unique moves and gave her a theme song.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Decapre seems like a likely future character just because it'll be cheaper.

 

[Neoxon]

Her model is literally as detailed as any of the other playable characters, the dolls costume design is just bland, her polygon count itself perse isn't any lower than say cammy.
Juri and Ibuki are "missing" moves too, that doesn't mean shit; I've played decapre extensively in 4 and in 5 training mode, all she's really missing is the super and V stuff.

I'll give you the moves argument, though her model lacks the muscle definition found on the good chunk of the roster (including Cammy). At best, I would hope that Capcom would touch up Decapre's model a little bit if they intend on making her playable in the near future. And while I do believe that they will make her playable eventually, I'm just not sure if that'll be this year or next year.

Onto more pressing matters, what of the Story Costumes for the DLC characters? Will Season Pass owners get those as well?

 

[Romars202129]

moreso they could've just given her the treatment as the other dolls, but they basically made her a full character with all unique moves and gave her a theme song.

She's as much a lock as a character can be. I'd personally throw Abel just under her in terms of likelihood.

 

[hamchan]

Gosh I hope they can actually tell which player rage quit now instead of punishing both.

 

[Neoxon]

She's as much a lock as a character can be. I'd personally throw Abel just under her in terms of likelihood.

I mean, Abel is likely, but I would probably put Crimson Viper above him in terms of likelihood. At the very least, Crimson Viper's a fair bit more popular than Abel.

 

[vg260]

Onto more pressing matters, what of the Story Costumes for the DLC characters? Will Season Pass owners get those as well?

Going by the bullet list, no.

 

[kirblar]

I mean, Abel is likely, but I would probably put Crimson Viper above him in terms of likelihood. At the very least, Crimson Viper's a fair bit more popular than Abel.

Viper's as close a lock as you can get for S2 given that she's all over the story mode despite not being in the game.

 

[Neoxon]

Going by the bullet list, no.

That's what's confusing me. The bullet list said that all premium costumes will get the colors immediately, but Capcom went on to say that Season Pass owners will get the colors for the default & Battle Outfits. Was it a typo?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

That's what's confusing me. The bullet list said that all premium costumes will get the colors immediately, but Capcom went on to say that Season Pass owners will get the colors for the default & Battle Outfits. Was it a typo?

story outfits are neither default or premium.

 

[vg260]

That's what's confusing me. The bullet list said that all premium costumes will get the colors immediately, but Capcom went on to say that Season Pass owners will get the colors for the default & Battle Outfits. Was it a typo?

The story ones seemingly aren't considered premium costumes, and they didn't mention the story ones under the bullet about the season pass or battle costumes.
The only mention of story ones is in the bullet point about all 22 character default and story bundles, so it seems like those aren't free.

The only thing season pass holders seem to be getting free in terms of colors are the default ones since everyone will get the colors with premium outfits.

 

[Neoxon]

story outfits are neither default or premium.

The story ones seemingly aren't considered premium costumes, and they didn't mention the story ones under the bullet about the season pass or battle costumes.
The only mention of story ones is in the bullet point about all 22 character default and story bundles, so it seems like those aren't free.

The only thing season pass holders seem to be getting free in terms of colors are the default ones since eveyone will get the colors with premium outfits.

That's the thing. If you get the premium costumes' colors either way, wouldn't the Season Pass be better used to unlock the Story colors? Then again, it's Capcom, so I wouldn't be surprised if they left that kind of oversight. But still, it's a bit of a confusing move.

 

[vg260]

That's the thing. If you get the premium costumes' colors either way, wouldn't the Season Pass be better used to unlock the Story colors? Then again, it's Capcom, so I wouldn't be surprised if they left that kind of oversight. But still, it's a bit of a confusing move.

It looks like no one gets the story ones for free. At least you get the defaults with the season pass. That's probably better for most as not everyone is going to buy all the story outfits.

Hopefully there's a separate bundle of story and default colors, as the default ones would be redundant for season pass buyers.

 

[Neoxon]

That would be nicer, yeah, but it looks like no one gets the story ones for free. At least you get the defaults with the season pass. That's probably better for most as not everyone is going to buy all the story outfits.

Hopefully there's a separate bundle of story and default colors, as the default ones would be redundant for season pass buyers.

Season Pass owners only get the default colors for the 6 Season 1 DLC characters, hence why I'm hoping that there's a pack for just the initial 16 characters.

 

[Romars202129]

I mean, Abel is likely, but I would probably put Crimson Viper above him in terms of likelihood. At the very least, Crimson Viper's a fair bit more popular than Abel.

Yeah, but they bothered to give him a 3d model. Based simply on that, I put him ahead.

 

[Platy]

Curious for what the dailies are ... but wtf at no urien anywhere !

It was supposed to be one char every 2 months =P

 

[ArjanN]

I guess we will see a massive influx of sales now that all the people who have "been playing since the old school days" can now fight the CPU.

Spoiler

/s

Pretty much.

I mean it's nice they're putting VS CPU in there, but aside from a second round it basically adds nothing of note over what surivival/practice mode already offers.

It's something for you to fool around with for an hour while you're still learning what your characters moves are maybe, and in that sense it might help ease newcomers in a little bit but honestly if the main attraction for someone is fighting the CPU they're wildly missing the point of what fighting games are about.

Yeah, but they bothered to give him a 3d model. Based simply on that, I put him ahead.

I liked Abel in SF4 but that was mostly because I wanted a grappler without 360 inputs, and SFV already has multiple characters that do that and have less boring designs.

 

[Neoxon]

Curious for what the dailies are ... but wtf at no urien anywhere !

It was supposed to be one char every 2 months =P

If I had to guess, Urien may be saved for Gamescom.

Either way, Urien was originally pegged for September, so Capcom may either release him early (August) or on-time (September). It's just that Balrog & Juri were released ahead of schedule.

 

[vg260]

Season Pass owners only get the default colors for the 6 Season 1 DLC characters, hence why I'm hoping that there's a pack for just the initial 16 characters.

Oh shoot, yeah you're right. Bummer.

Capcom needs a table. :/

 

[farisr]

As usual, elitist and condescending posts about people who want vs AI modes like every SFV topic that has a mention of it. Was going to reply to a few but honestly not worth it. The discussion has been done to death. But I'll just say this,

Posting things like:
-Why would anyone like these modes?
-I don't care if people want it in the game, I think it sucks, it shouldn't be in
-People who want such modes suck
-You're not playing it right
-People who like these modes are afraid of playing online
-People who like these modes aren't interested in learning the game
-There's already a crappy mode in the game, why aren't you playing that, since you know... it's crap, like the mode you want

doesn't make you look cool or hardcore nor make your opinion somehow more valuable or right than others'. At best you look ignorant. Most of the time you're just making an ass out of yourself and are contributing to the "FGC is elitist" stereotype.

Not saying all these typical posts are in this topic, some of them are, and more will undoubtedly show up if this thread keeps moving along.

 

[vg260]

Pretty much.

I mean it's nice they're putting VS CPU in there, but aside from a second round it basically adds nothing of note over what surivival/practice mode already offers.

It's something for you to fool around with for an hour while you're still learning what your characters moves are maybe, and in that sense it might help ease newcomers in a little bit but honestly if the main attraction for someone is fighting the CPU they're wildly missing the point of what fighting games are about.

Whether true or not that's what a lot of people buy fighting games for and are content never fighting a human. If they never played vs real people, they might not know what they're missing and might not care. Playing against a computer is the game for a lot of people.

 

[Timu]

As usual, elitist and condescending posts about people who want vs AI modes like every SFV topic that has a mention of it. Was going to reply to a few but honestly not worth it. The discussion has been done to death. But I'll just say this,

Posting things like:
-Why would anyone like these modes?
-I don't care if people want it in the game, I think it sucks, it shouldn't be in
-People who want such modes suck
-You're not playing it right
-People who like these modes are afraid of playing online
-People who like these modes aren't interested in learning the game
-There's already a crappy mode in the game, why aren't you playing that, since you know... it's crap, like the mode you want

doesn't make you look cool or hardcore nor make your opinion somehow more valuable or right than others'. At best you look ignorant. Most of the time you're just making an ass out of yourself and are contributing to the "FGC is elitist" stereotype.

Not saying all these typical posts are in this topic, some of them are, and more will undoubtedly show up if this thread keeps moving along.

I agree with this. People wanting modes they enjoy isn't a bad thing about all, and hell, adds more value and content to the game when done right.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Are they going to let other profiles use the DLC characters if someone bought the season pass?

 

[MrCarter]

Capcom will have to wait until about a month from now when KOF time ends.

 

[Ame]

Great updates and all, but I was expecting some info on when we're getting Urien. Surprised he isn't mentioned at all.

 

[Skilletor]

Curious for what the dailies are ... but wtf at no urien anywhere !

It was supposed to be one char every 2 months =P

We got 3 characters in the last month.

Gamescom next week, probably saving a reveal for that.

 

[mnz]

Great updates and all, but I was expecting some info on when we're getting Urien. Surprised he isn't mentioned at all.

He's probably getting his own blog post. We'll see if there's an update ready after the maintenance.

 

[hamchan]

As usual, elitist and condescending posts about people who want vs AI modes like every SFV topic that has a mention of it. Was going to reply to a few but honestly not worth it. The discussion has been done to death. But I'll just say this,

Posting things like:
-Why would anyone like these modes?
-I don't care if people want it in the game, I think it sucks, it shouldn't be in
-People who want such modes suck
-You're not playing it right
-People who like these modes are afraid of playing online
-People who like these modes aren't interested in learning the game
-There's already a crappy mode in the game, why aren't you playing that, since you know... it's crap, like the mode you want

doesn't make you look cool or hardcore nor make your opinion somehow more valuable or right than others'. At best you look ignorant. Most of the time you're just making an ass out of yourself and are contributing to the "FGC is elitist" stereotype.

Not saying all these typical posts are in this topic, some of them are, and more will undoubtedly show up if this thread keeps moving along.

Agreed.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Every new mode or feature that has come out up until now has been stuff that was already planned and/or announced. As simple as it sounds to just convert that AI behavior in the demo to make it a new Vs mode, that still requires programming and testing. So it's perfectly reasonable to believe that implementing a Vs mode was prioritized behind all of the stuff they promised before launch, thus wouldn't have been added until now.

I know all this, and I feel I'm still right on that.

I got a backlog. Capcpom could've stood a better product (quality not quantity but both would happen).

Capcom will have to wait until about a month from now when KOF time ends.

That game may be great and have legs but yeah. Even people NOT playing SF V won't touch it (or Under Night, or KI3 or...) because of SF V!

As usual, elitist and condescending posts about people who want vs AI modes like every SFV topic that has a mention of it. Was going to reply to a few but honestly not worth it. The discussion has been done to death. But I'll just say this,

Posting things like:
-Why would anyone like these modes?
-I don't care if people want it in the game, I think it sucks, it shouldn't be in
-People who want such modes suck
-You're not playing it right
-People who like these modes are afraid of playing online
-People who like these modes aren't interested in learning the game
-There's already a crappy mode in the game, why aren't you playing that, since you know... it's crap, like the mode you want

doesn't make you look cool or hardcore nor make your opinion somehow more valuable or right than others'. At best you look ignorant. Most of the time you're just making an ass out of yourself and are contributing to the "FGC is elitist" stereotype.

Not saying all these typical posts are in this topic, some of them are, and more will undoubtedly show up if this thread keeps moving along.

This is why we dont talk along this Teh Casul vs Teh H@rdcore artillery barrage battlelines. It tends to dominate and warp less nutty, more nuanced people into falling into those armies.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Not saying all these typical posts are in this topic, some of them are, and more will undoubtedly show up if this thread keeps moving along.

This game really enabled the "don't touch me you filthy casual" types didnt it?

 

[Romars202129]

As usual, elitist and condescending posts about people who want vs AI modes like every SFV topic that has a mention of it. Was going to reply to a few but honestly not worth it. The discussion has been done to death. But I'll just say this,

Posting things like:
-Why would anyone like these modes?
-I don't care if people want it in the game, I think it sucks, it shouldn't be in
-People who want such modes suck
-You're not playing it right
-People who like these modes are afraid of playing online
-People who like these modes aren't interested in learning the game
-There's already a crappy mode in the game, why aren't you playing that, since you know... it's crap, like the mode you want

doesn't make you look cool or hardcore nor make your opinion somehow more valuable or right than others'. At best you look ignorant. Most of the time you're just making an ass out of yourself and are contributing to the "FGC is elitist" stereotype.

Not saying all these typical posts are in this topic, some of them are, and more will undoubtedly show up if this thread keeps moving along.

I was asking in earnest, I didn't even know if it was something hardcore or casuals wanted.. I swear the casual audience of sf are the most sensitive gamers in the world.

 

[dreamcastmaster]

This will baffle me for all eternity as well mate.

The answer is and always has been is that they want to force players online to have an active online community THAT CAN ALSO buy things from the store for real money. Capcom don't want you offline playing arcade.