Corronchilejano
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Don't know how I missed that. You're totally right.
Steven Universe |OT4| Every Rose Has Its Thorns
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Don't know how I missed that. You're totally right.
User 73706
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Even though it has no real reason to happen in current context, when Jasper said she was fighting "from the moment she came out of the ground" I would love to see a flashback where it turns out the CGs were in the middle of capturing / "liberating" the Beta Kindergarten, only for Jasper to emerge fully-formed and wipe the floor with any crystal gems there that tried to fight her. It's possible she was being literal when she mentioned it.
Also, food for thought: if Jasper was made because of what Rose did to Pink Diamond, but the Rubies suggest Jasper was around already when Pink Diamond was shattered (and we have no real way to confirm this considering the Rubies are traditionally unreliable outside of Eyeball), something doesn't add up. How could Jasper work under Pink Diamond yet be made because of what happened to PD? It makes me think we have two possibilities:
- the Kindergartens (note the pink crystals in the injectors) were made by / for Pink Diamond and Jasper calling PD "her" diamond could have just been a political thing in that she would have served under PD had she not been shattered (which seems unlikely given how emotional Jasper was over the situation), or
- Rose did something to Pink Diamond (like poofing her or maybe even making her sympathetic to the CGs?) before Jasper was made, but recovered, only to be shattered later on in the war
If the latter is true, it lends credence to the theory that not everything is as it seems in terms of Rose shattering PD. Then again, maybe it was a mercy-killing of sorts, and the diamonds had worse plans for her because she failed to maintain control of Earth or something.
Also, food for thought: if Jasper was made because of what Rose did to Pink Diamond, but the Rubies suggest Jasper was around already when Pink Diamond was shattered (and we have no real way to confirm this considering the Rubies are traditionally unreliable outside of Eyeball), something doesn't add up. How could Jasper work under Pink Diamond yet be made because of what happened to PD? It makes me think we have two possibilities:
- the Kindergartens (note the pink crystals in the injectors) were made by / for Pink Diamond and Jasper calling PD "her" diamond could have just been a political thing in that she would have served under PD had she not been shattered (which seems unlikely given how emotional Jasper was over the situation), or
- Rose did something to Pink Diamond (like poofing her or maybe even making her sympathetic to the CGs?) before Jasper was made, but recovered, only to be shattered later on in the war
If the latter is true, it lends credence to the theory that not everything is as it seems in terms of Rose shattering PD. Then again, maybe it was a mercy-killing of sorts, and the diamonds had worse plans for her because she failed to maintain control of Earth or something.
That's my guess. Based on the fact that Jasper starts with "because of what you did to my planet/colony," she may have been made hastily to combat the Rebellion. It's just that the situation eventually escalated.
Ooooooh cool theory
Kor of Memory
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A bunch of stuff, but still missing Peace & Love, and the new Here Comes a Thought.
Here Comes a Thought was already posted. No clue about Peace and Love.
Neither of which aired during the Summer of Steven event. Peace & Love came before, and Here Comes a Thought soon after. They were very specific about this.
User 73706
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I could easily see Jasper either defecting to the CGs because of a revelation of the machinations leading up to the events about Pink Diamond making her swear off the other Diamonds (if Jasper was there), or a partial revelation to make Jasper doubt what actually happened and truce with them til she finds out (if Jasper was just going by what she heard, likely due to being elsewhere rather than not having been born outright).
After several lore dumps it sounds like there's a lot of things the main characters just plain don't know. Heck, Lion alone (and the room inside) are still a huge enigma. Who's to say Steven won't stumble upon another Bismuth-tier secret?
With the exception of Amy I think it is safe to assume nearly every gem from the kindergarten was born before PD got shattered.
https://twitter.com/ben_levin/status/771051907083141122
upcoming concert ep... Last One Out of Beach City maybe?
upcoming concert ep... Last One Out of Beach City maybe?
User 73706
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SU fandom theories:
Future Boy Zoltron: Garnet has a horrible vision of the future and Steven is exposed to the "bad ending" future where he and the CGs fail
Gem Harvest: we see the full, horrifying extent of what happens to harvested gems and its ties to corruption
Last One Out of Beach City: Homeworld arrives in beach city again, forcing a mass evacuation
Actual episodes:
Future Boy Zoltron: Steven learns a lesson in telling people what they want to hear versus what they need to hear
Gem Harvest: Lapis and Peridot learn about farming and making money
Last One Out of Beach City: Steven, Connie, Greg & the CGs go out of town to see a concert, but they have some unexpected business to take care of when they get back
We always blow this stuff WAY out of proportion.
Future Boy Zoltron: Garnet has a horrible vision of the future and Steven is exposed to the "bad ending" future where he and the CGs fail
Gem Harvest: we see the full, horrifying extent of what happens to harvested gems and its ties to corruption
Last One Out of Beach City: Homeworld arrives in beach city again, forcing a mass evacuation
Actual episodes:
Future Boy Zoltron: Steven learns a lesson in telling people what they want to hear versus what they need to hear
Gem Harvest: Lapis and Peridot learn about farming and making money
Last One Out of Beach City: Steven, Connie, Greg & the CGs go out of town to see a concert, but they have some unexpected business to take care of when they get back
We always blow this stuff WAY out of proportion.
Could be, but let's remember Pearl's space suit had a Pink Diamond emblem.
Let's be fair, much like "hit the diamond", this one has a pretty much intentionally misleading title.
Just like Earthlings also had a misleading title (ie, Amethyst and Jasper were the earthlings)
I wonder if maybe Pearl was a gift from WD. It would explain the gem placement and the pink diamond on the space suit, since gem placement can't be changed after they're made (as far as we know), but the last time she used the space suit was probably when she was traveling through space to Pink Diamond's (apparent) first planet.
Yellow Diamond Slays Steven:
Yellow Diamond tells a great joke to Steven.
On Gem Harvest, when Peridot first reforms she looks up at the bubbled gems and goes "You're going to harvest me?" and we have no context what that means. I can't imagine an episode called Gem Harvest to not address that.
They 're not missing Here Comes a Thought:
https://soundcloud.com/aivisura/ste...hought-rebecca-sugar-feat-estelle-aj-michalka
They just put it up under the main SU playlist.
Pretty sure it means taking a gem and using it to power an object, thus preventing them from being able to regenerate normally. Like how Homeworld stuck Lapis in the mirror because they thought she was a Crystal Gem. Makes you wonder how many other Crystal Gems were captured and "harvested" for Homeworld's use.
Yeah... I think this throws a wrench in one of my big theories. From the mural/Pearl's design alone, I'm convinced she was White Diamond's.
Yeah... As misleading as the episode titles can be, Gem Harvest has to be something big seeing how the term's been used in an ominous context before.
Also, the pearls we have seen thus far have matched their respective diamond's color. Although she has strawberry blonde hair, our pearl is basically white.
And an oblong gem. The other pearls have perfectly round gems. Which... doesn't really fit into this discussion but I thought I'd just toss it out there anyway.
Well Jasper did call pearl defective, so maybe that ties into Pearl's origins? Like, maybe she was meant for White Diamond, but she was passed onto newbie Pink Diamond for being defective. And eventually, Pink Diamond received a "proper" pearl and pawned our pearl off onto Rose. She'd basically be gir with self-esteem problems.
Ignatz Mouse
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Hey all!
I just caught up with Steven Universe. I had seem some of it when it debuted, but didn't stick with it. Recently my kids got into it and I saw a bunch out of order, but just watched it from the start straight through. Makes for a weird viewing experience, but also highlights just how much planning and groundwork were set from the start. Like seeing bubbled Bismuth in season 1.
Speaking of theories, my kids have seen a video suggesting that Lion is corrupt Pink Diamond, and that she wasn't shattered. Thoughts? Steven seems to have a knack for making friends with the monsters, maybe Rose did too?
Any ideas what's in the chest inside Lion?
I just caught up with Steven Universe. I had seem some of it when it debuted, but didn't stick with it. Recently my kids got into it and I saw a bunch out of order, but just watched it from the start straight through. Makes for a weird viewing experience, but also highlights just how much planning and groundwork were set from the start. Like seeing bubbled Bismuth in season 1.
Speaking of theories, my kids have seen a video suggesting that Lion is corrupt Pink Diamond, and that she wasn't shattered. Thoughts? Steven seems to have a knack for making friends with the monsters, maybe Rose did too?
Any ideas what's in the chest inside Lion?
I think this merges all theories very well
MisterGrey3000
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Someone suggested once that maybe that's where PD's shattered remains sit.
You'd think Rose would've left Steven a note, a recorded message on tape, or something, in the chance he found Lion and discovered her stuff.
Ignatz Mouse
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The VHS tape was labelled "For Steven." I'm sure he was meant to find Lion. Lion also forced the issue by trying to push Steven inside.
I don't think chance was involved.
Oh, in my catching-up-ness-- is it assumed that the giant hole in Siberia was where the Gems started hollowing out the Earth?
Another schedule conflict, now we have this strange program listing on CN servers that is apparently still being updated which lists Last One Out of Beach City airing next Thursday.
What is real?
Hard to say. We know they came to Earth en-masse. We know they started up the Prime Kindergarten and started building facilities. We know during the rebellion all kinds of shit went down, including the release of a potential nuke that was has since been held together by duct tape. And we can surmise that gem influence is responsible for several topographical and anthropological discrepancies all over the world.
But there's not enough information about what happened to most of Russia. Stay tuned, I guess?
What is real?
Hard to say. We know they came to Earth en-masse. We know they started up the Prime Kindergarten and started building facilities. We know during the rebellion all kinds of shit went down, including the release of a potential nuke that was has since been held together by duct tape. And we can surmise that gem influence is responsible for several topographical and anthropological discrepancies all over the world.
But there's not enough information about what happened to most of Russia. Stay tuned, I guess?
Ignatz Mouse
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Oh, I hadn't thought of the Geode as basically a nuke. Wow.
Well, for Gems anyway. It might not be all that dangerous to humans and the rest of Earth.
Ignatz Mouse
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I meant I hadn't realized it was a weapon of war.
DrForester
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EmpressInYellow
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I've long wondered if the geode had something to do with the gempocalypse, since it seems like kind of a weird thing to set up and then never touch on significantly again (at least for something that late in the season).
Some of the earlier stuff, like the weird scroll in Together Breakfast, doesn't fit as neatly with stuff we know now, but the geode was post-Mirror Gem, so I wouldn't be surprised if it comes up later.
User 73706
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Since there's no formal commercial release yet and we only really have Aivi & Surasshu's soundcloud to go off of so far, would sharing links to download the soundtrack be okay on GAF, or no? I'm asking because I consolidated / majorly cleaned up most of the big soundtrack compilations into a single pair of albums.
The scroll was made using (multiple?) corrupted Gems that had been ground up for use as paints and pigments, but still apparently retained enough of their power to possess stuff. I think it got clarified on Matt Burnett's twitter a while back.
The scroll was made using (multiple?) corrupted Gems that had been ground up for use as paints and pigments, but still apparently retained enough of their power to possess stuff. I think it got clarified on Matt Burnett's twitter a while back.
she did left him a videotape
AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE but Steven is convinced he cannot breath in there and doesn't spend much time in it so maybe there is still a last-will-and-testament of Rose hidden Steven hasn't found
Atraveller
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I really liked that cover, so I turned into a 4K wallpaper after cleaning it up a bit (meaning throwing it into waifu2x until it looked okay).
Meanwhile, the world is still waiting on a T-Pain guest spot. Nice job, becky sucrose.
FWIW, Gem Harvest/Tiger Philanthropist/Last One Out of Beach City were never actually confirmed to be airing soon. They were just assumed to be the next episodes because of the title leak from ages ago. ToonZone is pretty unreliable.
Yeah I made a note of that when I posted about it previously. One should also note that other, more reliable online TV listing sites have no SU episodes premiering next week. Until more concrete information surfaces I think we shouldn't automatically assume anything.
Kor of Memory
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Wait. So are we getting an episode today or no?
Ignatz Mouse
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Having just watched the biggest Steven Bomb of them all
I am in withdrawl. I will make Steven Puppy Dog Eyes if it means a new episode.
the whole series
I forgot there was an episode today, I guess I'll check it out.
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