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Are you a Reptilian? 72 is the lowest I ever go
Fox News reporter: Hillary Clinton left 9/11 ceremony with 'medical episode'
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VendettaRed07
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I mean, I can think of several thousand reasons why people would do that
Anyway, on an unrelated note I'm going to church now.
King Tubby
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Gotta admit, I was kinda confused why Hillary was going to town with a sledgehammer on what was supposed to be a fairly somber occasion.
"My" buzzwords? Are we reading the same thread? As if I'm the first person in this thread to talk about the concern trolling.
And I'm not dismissing the questions if you're really paying that much attention to my posts. It's the assertions that are the problem. Question all you want.
The 73 F to 78 F in summer from that article seems reasonable. I keep mine at 75-76 F, and I've been told you shouldn't set it more than 20 degrees (I might remember wrong) below the outside temperature so your A/C doesn't get overworked. 72 F can feel nice but if you're sitting around it feels cold to me.
I prefer 70. I run hot.
Ninja Scooter
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My brother passed out in church one time when he was 13. Be safe.
Saint Gregory
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Umm... yeah actually I do hang my dress shirts in the second bathroom. I have 38" sleeve length so I can't risk using the dryer :{
59 degrees though? I would be wearing a parka.
Arrogant Bastard
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You know you are right, and it would be the story for a day or two and we would move to the next absolutely crazy thing he has done. 1/10th of the stuff out of his campaign would have ended any other candidate. He succeeds by the sheer volume of fuck ups, that no one gets to focus on it and it gets immediately forgotten.
Good Guy Gone Bad
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Whether or not she had heat exhaustion or fainted or what have you can be debated forever, and there's enough evidence on either side of that argument for everyone to draw their own conclusions.
The concerning thing to me is that a person who is clearly fading in an out of consciousness, or fully unconscious, is literally dragged to a vehicle like a piece of luggage as everyone behaves in a very nonchalant manner. If I witnessed someone who was unconscious or clearly fading in and out of consciousness/fainting/etc., the first thing would be to seek medical attention, not to prop up the individual on a concrete barrier while waiting for a vehicle to whisk the person away.
There may or may not be a huge coverup or conspiracy theory at play, but the whole thing is very strange, and an explanation as to the actions of those around her would help clear this whole thing up.
The concerning thing to me is that a person who is clearly fading in an out of consciousness, or fully unconscious, is literally dragged to a vehicle like a piece of luggage as everyone behaves in a very nonchalant manner. If I witnessed someone who was unconscious or clearly fading in and out of consciousness/fainting/etc., the first thing would be to seek medical attention, not to prop up the individual on a concrete barrier while waiting for a vehicle to whisk the person away.
There may or may not be a huge coverup or conspiracy theory at play, but the whole thing is very strange, and an explanation as to the actions of those around her would help clear this whole thing up.
Sectorseven
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Y'all set the thermostat above 60° and call yourselves liberals?
Put on a damn sweater and help save the environment.
Put on a damn sweater and help save the environment.
I was always taught that 68 is the average room temperature.
And even that is a little high for me personally. 65 being too cold? To me that's the start of being just right.
That said I live for walking in snowstorms so I could be weird in that regard. I'm extremely comfortable with it being very very cold;. 60ish ranges is the start of acceptable temperatures to me.
Edited my last post, but will put it here as well: now you can see why I was posting what I was. But I can also see why you're confused at my claims if 68 is the average of things. We're both mutually confused with one another, lol.
And it's because it feels great. I can sleep to it comfortably.
It does seem we're both mutually confused. : P
How can it feel great tho?! ; . ;
Your childhood must have been super warm and sticky. : /
I can see the expense argument easily. Still warm to me but I can see it.
To be fair, it's hard to distinguish between the two sometimes. Supporters concerns are constantly being adopted by the other side to serve their own agenda.
Already Torn
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I don't think that's a real thing. You just like being cold.
A Link to the Past
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I love how desperately Republican you are
ClosingADoor
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I seriously don't get these people. Unless you are literally turning 18 this year and pay attention to politics for the first time in your life, you pretty much have the choice between 2 majorly different options. And then you go "well, I don't know yet." Just... how?
If you had a dozen parties to chose from and some are pretty similar, I can get how you need to make up your mind still. But in American politics? It's so strange to me.
Saint Gregory
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It was
And now when my dad comes to visit and tries to touch my thermostat I slap his hand like he did mine. Payback's a bitch.
I'll emote if I want to. I don't see the big deal. <_<
I do find that incredibly hard to believe. For work, sure. For personal time? Why would you torture yourself with that heat.
I'm not at all a diehard for Hillary. I've criticized her and the Democrats to hell and back. I have a great many issues with both. I just find the argument that 80 isn't high and by extension it can't possibly be heat exhaustion extremely absurd. You can't allow any room for it when it IS a fairly warm temperature? Seriously man. Especially, again, considering the circumstances. Your comment about wearing a bullet proof vest yourself and walking around in that heat like that for long periods of times comes across as very reaching to me. It's hard to believe.
It was
And now when my dad comes to visit and tries to touch my thermostat I slap his hand like he did mine. Payback's a bitch.
Excellente. Slap dat hand.
JoeyJungle
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People who usually vote for one party don't like the candidate and are considering flipping, but don't really like the alternative either.
dream
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Some people like to dress well, Ekai.
Sure. You can dress well without torturing yourself with the heat. Dress for the occasion. You can dress fancy all you want without wearing lots of heavy clothes in high temperatures.
People are comfortable at different temperatures. Shocking, I know. 69 is what I usually have my AC set at and if the room I'm sleeping in is much warmer than that I get uncomfortable and have trouble sleeping. 80 degrees(f) outside is pretty warm for me and I never, ever like it when it's any hotter. Mid-80s with no breeze and a little humidity and I'll start to feel...unwell. 60s to me is perfect and I'm comfortable walking around in jeans and a t-shirt in that weather. Some people think that's "freezing". People's bodies are different.
I live in southern Wisconsin so I experience the whole gamut of weather conditions....sub-zero blizzards in the winter, hot and humid in the summer. If it were always halfway in between I would be in heaven.
Mental Atrophy
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Improbable. OSHA standards allow for continuous work at this temperature and the heat stress index only indicates that physical activity will be more fatiguing than usual, but heat exhaustion isn't cautioned against until 91F and higher (and only with prolonged exposure combined with physical activity).
Then OSHA standards are also ridiculous. 80 is way too ridiculously high to be in for extended periods of time dressed like you're in winter weather. >_> I'm exaggerating with the winter weather comparison. Point is, she's in heavy as hell clothing.
You yourself even admit to more fatigue. Fatigue without addressing it = heat exhaustion. I've seen it happen all the damn time with people in 80 degreeish weather. Using OSHA as a standard for argument is just odd to me. OSHA standards are constantly horribly determined. They're always so incredibly out of date. Not to mention they aren't a one-glove fits all.
Chezzymann
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It could be dehydration. I fainted from that once a while ago.
She is hiding medical equipment under her clothes.
Arrogant Bastard
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Just because people aren't saying that she is medically ill, has a condition, is going to die, is already dead, no longer viable, etc. doesn't mean they are dismissing it.
It should be addressed, it should be questioned, she needs to show that she is out and about. It has been a few hours, what would you have people do?
Mental Atrophy
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You're right. You know more about safety than an official safety body.
I'd think this is the most likely thing.
Agreed. It's good to see she was out and about shortly after and was fine though, that will stop it from becoming a massive story, but it's still going to cast doubt in people's minds that are on the fence.
I think though that this being early September there is plenty of time to pass and it will mostly be forgotten as long as it doesn't happen again.
Usually 80 a month or so. In the winter I keep the temperature at low 60s...I don't like it but heating is expensive. So in the winter I'm usually at 60 a month or so.
That means nothing. You cannot make one meaningful standard for people of all ages, levels of health, body types, and temperature tolerances. Like I said above, people's bodies are wildly different.
You're misreading what I said. I wear my work clothes for work reasons through the year as a necessity. I'm not wearing them during my personal time and torturing myself.
eBay Huckster
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gonna use this post as a springboard to post the beginning of a relevant tweetstorm
tl;dr: dehydration and heat sensitivity are probable, both of these are pretty normal among older women
Dehydration and heat illness go hand in hand. My armchair diagnosis is Heat Syncope brought on by dehydration.
Saint Gregory
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I know, I know, I'm just kidding around. Living in the mid-Atlantic the amount of cooling you'd need to get your house down to 68 would turn it into a deep freezer though. I'm sure it's not that hard to get your house into that range farther north though.
How do we know that she even has a body? Has anyone seen it? For all we know she's just a disembodied head being kept alive by tubes.
Arrogant Bastard
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How can you possibly know that?
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That could be an explanation just not what you want
I left here 3 hours ago (20 pages past) and Ekai was still arguing that 80 was hot. If that's not diehard I'm not sure what is. Maybe Ekai is a temperature diehard, but it seems more likely Clinton is the inspiration...?
I would prefer if we all erred on the side of caution and not assume everyone with a disagreeable opinion is one of THEM.
Again: OSHA standards aren't a one-glove fits all. You can't argue heat exhaustion can't be a thing in 80 degree weather when it is because it's warm and people do get heat exhaustion in it. >_> To argue that it's not possible is just flat out ridiculous.
Further more it's often a push beyond what would be better safety regulations. So many workplace issues happen in part because people are pushed to their limits since OSHA is way too lax in some of their guidelines. Of course part of the issue depends on where you work/your bosses but still.
Ninja Scooter
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Heat exhaustion is a very reasonable explanation and for whatever reason (doesn't fit your narrative?), and with zero evidence on your side, it's not good enough for you? So why exactly are you entitled to some explanation? Are you not just going to move the goal posts?
eBay Huckster
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i assure you, ekai is about as close to being a clinton diehard as i am to being a millionaire. maybe she just cares a lot about pointing out differences in temperature sensitivity
streetsahead123
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Heat exhaustion after sitting in 80 degree weather in a pantsuit for two hours is totally plausible IMO.
jack_package_200
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Ignore him. He is a known BoBer
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