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Clinton has pneumonia
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Are you trying to redefine Diablosing?
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OMG. Somebody get Huma under observation, quick! Hillary Clinton is a modern day Typhoid Mary!!
Wuthering_Heights
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So she has pneumonia, but coming out of Chelsea's apartment she said she felt great.
Which is it?
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Which is it?
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bob_arctor
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I just can't figure out the brain that works this way. I really can't.
titiklabingapat
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They are handling this right. Walking pneumonia really does exist and I commend her for even campaigning whike sick.
From an optics perspective, if Trump and his ilk push this and push too far, it might even backfire for them and I hope it does.
From an optics perspective, if Trump and his ilk push this and push too far, it might even backfire for them and I hope it does.
MrToughPants
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Maybe he was? He did predict 9/11 after all...now this other prediction of Hillary's sickness landing on the memorial of 9/11? It can't be a coincidence.
Rabbi_Vole
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Welp, if we can't have a serious discussion, I'm out.
Obviously neither the Secret Service nor her aids are worried. She's being treated for it and, from the looks of it, isn't that serious until she combined it with dehydration today.
Bam Bam Baklava
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His followers give him credit for predicting acts of terrorism. He is a god to them.
Because the concern is so ridiculous and petty. The contagiousness of pneumonia is pretty low to begin with but she's already gotten antibiotics so it's a virtual non-issue going forward.
Neuromancer
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I agree. This could be really serious and it may only get worse. I hope that's not the case but you never know.
You're missing the part where the outbreaks occur because of prolonged contact. Because pneumonia is transmitted through water droplets (remember, Hillary doesn't sweat!) unless she picked her nose, didn't wash her hands, and then vigorously rubbed and sneezed on a bunch of doorknobs afterwards everyone is fine.
And this is all merely hypothetical, because she's been on a course of antibiotics! Which means this theoretical minimal risk we've been discussing isn't even applicable, because the antibiotic course means she isn't contagious even in the slightest.
And I know that if she did take some time for bed rest I'd be admonishing you for crying about how it was proof she can't handle the presidency because of her failing health. Your option select won't work on me!
Meh, I had it once as a kid. Ain't no big deal, hurts like a motherfucker though. And I had to be medicated for 2 months or something iirc. Okay it's kinda serious. But with rich-person care it shouldn't be *all* too serious.
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I wasn't necessarily trying to mock you, just the overall absurdity of reactions to today's events. Sorry if it came out that way. Didn't mean to.
Rabbi_Vole
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Isn't there a newborn child in that apartment?
Kibbles
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Prophet Trump 😭
Rabbi_Vole
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I've been through the WP waiting game and a bit of a hypochondriac. No worries
OK, how on earth is this an excuse? Most doesn't mean all. She actually risked the health of other people by hugging them.
I must be missing something here, this looks either like a lie or ridiculous levels of irresponsibility.
Well, Abuela clearly isn't 100%. Pneumonia is a definite possibility with how many people she meets
eh, wait for the next Rupert Murdoch thread to see liberals act the same way.
eh, wait for the next Rupert Murdoch thread to see liberals act the same way.
ugaboga232
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You are. Which is the medical context that you can't really get from a CDC page. And given the context the risk of transmission is probably even lower.
diablos991
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We know she coughs a whole lot that's one way to spread it.
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thepotatoman
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Tim Kaine really needs to step up to the plate now. Doesn't matter if Hillary's health is a legit concern, the perception is definitely going to be there now.
Hillary would probably already be finished with this news if she had someone like Palin as VP. Thankfully Kaine is no Palin, but the better he can do the less of an issue this will be.
The VP debate's probably going to be like the most important VP debate ever, with Trump wanting his VP to do most of the job of being president for him.
Hillary would probably already be finished with this news if she had someone like Palin as VP. Thankfully Kaine is no Palin, but the better he can do the less of an issue this will be.
The VP debate's probably going to be like the most important VP debate ever, with Trump wanting his VP to do most of the job of being president for him.
If one of these geezers are going to drop dead soon it'll most likely be heart attack.
It's good that they came out and said what the illness is. The extreme defensiveness in the other thread is hilarious though. Any idea that just happens to align with something Trump has said, such as Hillary being ill, automatically gets you branded as an evil Trump supporter. Get a grip people.
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No, it does not. The right-wing conspiracy theories involved months of trying to find visual evidence of some serious chronic condition that would seriously affect her ability to lead. All of that has so far led nowhere. Pneumonia is an acute, serious, but temporary condition, and HRC having it does not validate the right's chronic case of confirmation bias.
No one knows what's the causative agent of her specific pneumonia so no one knows how contagious or not it really is. And she's certainly being treated since diagnosed which considerably decreases the possibility of it being contagious if at all.
When you get a cold, or other viral or bacterial infection, do you lock yourself in a hermetically sealed room or something?
Millions, if not billions of people around the world are going to work while sick as we speak.
The risks involved for any specific transmission are so mindbogglingly small, you might as well criticise Hillary for risking all of these people getting struck by lightning by being outside with her.
bob_arctor
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But even if you aren't a Trump follower, there are people who really think this way. It's bizarre to me. They strike me as marks; the type of people PT Barnum would have a field day with. They read the horoscope every day and believe every word. So I guess it's a shit ton of people, then? I don't know. That mentality just raises a red flag to me, every single time. It strikes me as weakness.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Neither side is willing to take a stand and show some decency. It's like we're all racing towards destroying every bit of humanity and empathy we have.
Most of the posters here are saying stuff like that sucks, hope she gets better. Which is the response most people should have even if it was Ted Cruz or Trump getting sick. But then you have these people who just instantly want to take it into the mud.
I think it's something akin to crying wolf, except if some jackass outside your pen kept shouting it and you're going "dude, shut the fuck up what are you doing" and then no one takes you seriously at first when YOU are the one crying wolf because they're eating the sheep and chasing you up a tree.
you have to actually cough on the people, and not just a dry cough but a deep wet cough that spews mucus and phlegm particles everywhere
has this argument devolved so far that we are now arguing over whether hillary theoretically does the vampire cough or not
with the context being that she's been on antibiotics and the minimal risk of being contagious is nullified anyways
and i'm just going to let you know that you better be in favor of universal national healthcare and an end to our culture of dragging ourselves to work after coming down with the sickness, or else you're going to come off as pretty foolish
entremet
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Trump doesn't need to attack Hillary here. The Alt-Right and conventional conservatives news sources are already doing it. Look at Drudge, Fox, etc.
This stuff then bleeds into the mainstream press with concern trolling.
To be fair, I do think Hillary's health is a concern. It can swing the polls. You'd be blind if you didn't think this is the case.
This stuff then bleeds into the mainstream press with concern trolling.
To be fair, I do think Hillary's health is a concern. It can swing the polls. You'd be blind if you didn't think this is the case.
Mango The Magician
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...I don't understand a lot of the comments on the first couple of pages. The whole point people were talking about her health was that clearly there was something more to the situation than fainting due to the "insanely hot" wheather yall tried to claim caused this. Thus if anything those questioning her health are vindicated by this news, and the reactionary responses seem out of place.
Either way I hope she feels better.
Either way I hope she feels better.
So let me get this straight, pneumonia is a very dangerous condition which sometimes becomes fatal especially for the elder and kids. And you're telling me that it's A-OK to hug children and older people if you have it because the risk of transmission is low?
Are you seriously telling me that if you had pneumonia you'd hug your daughter for example because it's not that contagious? Seriously?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
You bet your ass we need single payer healthcare and for workplaces to allow employees to stay home when they are contagious.
This is where Bernie was a fantastic candidate.
BossDarkseid
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Bring Bidem in to tutor Kaine?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Or being tasked with stopping the rise of Trump is much more important.
blankempathy
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So its okay because other people do it? Speaking as someone who had Pneumonia where taking 10 steps from my bed made me have to take a minute just to catch my breath because it felt like I couldn't breath and took me a month to fully recover, stay the fuck home if you have pneumonia.
...because Hillary hasn't always been a workaholic. Only to win the presidency.
Also, a sane person would want to rest. A lot don't have that option. Millions of people around the world go to work while ill. Hopefully this isn't news.
Calamari41
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I kind of stopped getting into it regarding politics when the death of political figures was met with flurries of "Great! Good! Fuck 'em! Burn in hell!" etc. It didn't used to be like that, or at least people kept it hidden more. Toxic attitudes, it's sad to see.
All the more reason to get some rest! Don't need her dying on the way.
Man, it's almost like Trump's going to pretend pneumonia isn't temporary and milk this as the only point in his favor all campaign. Well, that and White Nationalism.
Hilary's far from my ideal candidate, but with everyone we have on the ballot... I hope she gets well soon (Also because pneumonia sucks and no one should have to deal with it. Yikes). She's at a safe point; I think she can slow her push for a minute to rest.
Hilary's far from my ideal candidate, but with everyone we have on the ballot... I hope she gets well soon (Also because pneumonia sucks and no one should have to deal with it. Yikes). She's at a safe point; I think she can slow her push for a minute to rest.
Thank you for clearing it up. Obviously my doctors never explained it well or I just misunderstood.
...so what does getting pneumonia have to do with the bullshit health claims Trump and his ilk have been peddling for some time now, ranging from her being unstable as a result of a concussion, to her having a stroke during this or that interview, and whatever else?
This "health craze" is not some recent thing. The coincidence here is that she fell ill during the tail end of a tough presidential campaign, when the right's narrative about her health would become even louder and more distorted. That's all.
That she is a human being who is capable of getting sick was never in question, Trump is not a goddamn doctor, and nothing the right has ever said about her health pointed to the mere possibility of her coming down with pneumonia. For God's sake.
okay good, we agree
a bit odd that you support a candidate who is against universal healthcare and wants to repeal the affordable care act, but at least maybe after this election you'll support someone who better matches your stated views
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