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Pokémon Sun & Moon | Info and speculation thread

How do you guys feel about the new mons so far? I saw this in a thread on 4chan and I figured it'd be cool to do here as well:



If you want to make your own, here's the source image without any colors.

That's cool!

Also to your question: Gen VII's designs collectively so far are my second favorite bunch in the series behind Gen V, so I'm really thrilled with them. Now just as long as there's plenty for me to discover on my own in Alola, consider Gen VII my new favorite.

Also I'll never understand Pokémon taste fights, much less over the starters. All three are great all the way through. But I gotta go with Robin Hoot. What a spectacular design.

But if Litten3 is Fighting then fuck that. It has every reason to be Dark (the sake of variety being a big one).
 
Dunno if I'd say 3 stage but it is a bit much for a single evo.

Then again, I'd say the same of druddigon and that's a single stage too.

yeah, druddigon looks like an evo too


still taking with a grain of salt until official reveals, but if true then i might have to switch from litten to rowlet

How do you guys feel about the new mons so far? I saw this in a thread on 4chan and I figured it'd be cool to do here as well:



If you want to make your own, here's the source image without any colors.

all of mine are green

i like every single design so far. can't say for certain yet but this might be my favorite gen yet.
 
But if Litten3 is Fighting then fuck that. It has every reason to be Dark (the sake of variety being a big one).

I hope it will be Fighting, because it's the best type. Blaziken is one of the greatest things ever made, Lucario and Hawlucha are right behind him.

If it's Fire/Dark I won't ever touch this garbage and I'm ready to send a very angry mail with lot of not really nice words to The Pokémon Company.
 
Magical girl fox had so much potential.
Yeah, I feel like there was a lot of love put into her in the XY games due to all the fun stick twirling animations and whatnot and it seems they realised it in the animes and her inclusion in Pokken. No idea what they could do now except maybe have a regional Delphox that tries to fix it somewhere down the line :/

Here's hoping that Brionne's evolution works out better than Delphox. The 2D is making me hopeful :P
 
All these people talking about the best starter...

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If only Delphox hadn't ruined it :P

Braizen ruined that line. Delphox is awful too but it's less awful than Braixen.
 
I hope it will be Fighting, because it's the best type. Blaziken is one of the greatest things ever made, Lucario and Hawlucha are right behind him.

If it's Fire/Dark I won't ever touch this garbage and I'm ready to send a very angry mail with lot of not really nice words to The Pokémon Company.

Different strokes, but I'd be much more thrilled with a Fire/Dark type because it fits the heel fighter motif and repeating starter type combos like 3+ times is lame.

Poopplio's line and "great all the way through" are two things that do not mix

Middle form is a little strange (they always are), but Popplio is cute and Popplio3 is amazing and gorgeous and Water/Fairy would be so good. I love love love the final evo.

Also I have literally no idea why the hate for Delphox. I think it's a really terrific design and it's a good natural progression of Braixen. The fact that it doesn't have its stick wand out at all times is a disappointment tho.
 
Braizen ruined that line. Delphox is awful too but it's less awful than Braixen.
In the grand sea of opinions that is the internet, this catch is a rare one :3

They knew exactly what they were doing, pandering to the lowest common denominator... eessh
"I don't like this and I'm going to backhandedly insult everyone who does"
Smooth. Real smooth :P
Unless you think people who like sailor moon and stuff are the lowest common denominator too
 
They knew exactly what they were doing, pandering to the lowest common denominator... eessh
This whole line of argument — "if someone jerks off to it, everyone must jerk off to it, ergo TPC made it for jerking off" — is completely ridiculous.

Equally ridiculous is the notion that any feminine Pokemon design was made for perverted reasons. I mean, c'mon.

Braixen is a cool design. Some say it's based on a witch, others say stuff like Sailor Moon. I'd sooner believe either of those, than the batshit crazy theory it was made to pander.
 
This whole line of argument — "if someone jerks off to it, everyone must jerk off to it, ergo TPC made it for jerking off" — is completely ridiculous.

Equally ridiculous is the notion that any feminine Pokemon design was made for perverted reasons. I mean, c'mon.

Braixen is a cool design. Some say it's based on a witch, others say stuff like Sailor Moon. I'd sooner believe either of those, than the batshit crazy theory it was made to pander.
It's just based on a mahou shoujo in general, and braixen encompasses both sides of it, that of the Japanese idea of a magical girl and a traditional witch. It's pretty clever to combine them.
She's essentially Sailor Moon meets Sabrina the Teenage Witch, with a flaming fennec fox theme on top of that.

There's nothing perverted about it, but hey it's the internet and creeps are gonna creep
 
So with the Demo only a few days away who thinks that GameFreak learnt their lesson from ORAS and won't have a ton of extra data in it and who thinks they haven't and it will be datamined for tons of secrets
 
So with the Demo only a few days away who thinks that GameFreak learnt their lesson from ORAS and won't have a ton of extra data in it and who thinks they haven't and it will be datamined for tons of secrets

It's GameFreak.
Be prepared to see a giant thread with everything that has been datamined.
 
Litten has to end up being fire / fighting. I can't see it not being so.

Popplio could be water / fairy like a mermaid

Owlet, I could see dropping the flying and becoming grass / dark actually.
 
So with the Demo only a few days away who thinks that GameFreak learnt their lesson from ORAS and won't have a ton of extra data in it and who thinks they haven't and it will be datamined for tons of secrets
I think people will datamine it and find geocaching coordinates that will lead to a Chinese fortune cookie buried in the Rub' al Khali containing the announcement date of the NX
 
Litten has to end up being fire / fighting. I can't see it not being so.

Popplio could be water / fairy like a mermaid

Owlet, I could see dropping the flying and becoming grass / dark actually.
I could totally see Litten's evo being Fire/Dark, based on a heel wrestler. Heel wrestlers are villain wrestlers. The concept art for Litten's evo describe it using heel tactics like spitting embers in its opponent's face, breaking furniture on them, etc. And Tiger Mask, upon which the design is based, was a heel wrestler who turned good to be a positive role model for his fans at an orphanage. A Fire/Dark-type with a high Attack stat seems possible.
 
So with the Demo only a few days away who thinks that GameFreak learnt their lesson from ORAS and won't have a ton of extra data in it and who thinks they haven't and it will be datamined for tons of secrets

It's going to be datamined like crazy.

And I'm still not a big fan of stage 3 Litten. I can sorta accept Popplio's final form, but Rowlet's new form is fucking baller. The coolest grass starter since Torterra.
 
So with the Demo only a few days away who thinks that GameFreak learnt their lesson from ORAS and won't have a ton of extra data in it and who thinks they haven't and it will be datamined for tons of secrets

Everything that isn't the models and music will be Datamined. Expecting to see a lot more text this time around though considering the size of the demo.
 
This whole line of argument — "if someone jerks off to it, everyone must jerk off to it, ergo TPC made it for jerking off" — is completely ridiculous.

Equally ridiculous is the notion that any feminine Pokemon design was made for perverted reasons. I mean, c'mon.

Braixen is a cool design. Some say it's based on a witch, others say stuff like Sailor Moon. I'd sooner believe either of those, than the batshit crazy theory it was made to pander.

Exactly plus those people seem forget the fact that girls also play Pokémon thus Pokémon like Braixen is designed to appeal to that market.
 
I could totally see Litten's evo being Fire/Dark, based on a heel wrestler. Heel wrestlers are villain wrestlers. The concept art for Litten's evo describe it using heel tactics like spitting embers in its opponent's face, breaking furniture on them, etc. And Tiger Mask, upon which the design is based, was a heel wrestler who turned good to be a positive role model for his fans at an orphanage. A Fire/Dark-type with a high Attack stat seems possible.

I agree with your logic there. Also, a really high attack stat is necessary.
 
They count as much as megas which means not at all.

Alolan Pokemon have adjusted movesets, typings, base stats, behaviors and even aesthetics to a solid extent (such as differing animations). One could make a good argument why Megas don't count for the amount of pokemon in a typing, but Alolan Pokemon are completely redesigned for the most part. They definitely should count as pokemon under a specific type. They're new pokemon in almost everything but name.
 
You'll see the light eventually, and I'll be there to witness it.

I've seen the light, and I can assure you that Poopplio and its kin are not basking in it.

They count as much as megas which means not at all.

Permanent new types, new moves, new looks, new stat distribution. It's needlessly obtuse to keep pretending that Alolan forms are not new Pokemon, and it makes even less sense to compare them to Megas
even though Megas should count too
.

Not if you do your first play through with all new Pokemon they don't.

So this ice type Vulpix existed before? These things that straight up were not in the previous games and are extremely different from their contemporary forms are not new? It's fucking weird to treat them like that.
 
Alolan Pokemon have adjusted movesets, typings, base stats, behaviors and even aesthetics to a solid extent (such as differing animations). One could make a good argument why Megas don't count for the amount of pokemon in a typing, but Alolan Pokemon are completely redesigned for the most part. They definitely should count as pokemon under a specific type. They're new pokemon in almost everything but name.

Permanent new types, new moves, new looks, new stat distribution. It's needlessly obtuse to keep pretending that Alolan forms are not new Pokemon, and it makes even less sense to compare them to Megas
even though Megas should count too
.



So this ice type Vulpix existed before? These things that straight up were not in the previous games and are extremely different from their contemporary forms are not new? It's fucking weird to treat them like that.

If they don't get a new dex number then they're not new Pokemon.
 
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