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[duckroll]

Can we deport him?

I think that would qualify as illegal dumping.

 

[geestack]

With Clinton, it's a case of anything usually being "more than meets the eye". Don't think people believe Trump is more trustworthy, but he's got so much going against him, people are pouncing on various things at once. Trustworthiness and her lack of charisma/warmth have always been big issues for Hillary though.

who gives a shit about warmth

 

[_Ryo_]

NYMag is an extremely credible source, and your MSM suspicion is just anti-intellectual tripe. And I'd put MORE of them in that basket. Trump has demonstrated that he is a uniquely offensive candidate, variously courting white supremacists, offending disabled, veterans, Mexicans, women, etc. He is racist, a bigot, a xenophobe and a misogynist and, frankly, a grotesque sexual predator. His only prominent policy positions he has gone into depth is the comically unrealistic BUILD A WALL and DEPORTATION FORCE (that he is never going to get Mexico to pay for, because he is an abominable moron). There is no argument left that this is just a political difference.

If you support Trump, you are a deplorable. 100% of Trump voters are deplorables. I'd call them worse. Scum, villains, detritus. Find your insult and apply it. If they can see what this monster has done and still support him, their moral center is adrift and nobody should respect these people because they don't deserve respect. They let this authoritarian Putin rimjobber get nominated, and now this shit is on their fucked up heads. Including owning a candidate with zero respect for our Democratic process.

Not only are they deplorables, they're hypocrites. They complain about PC culture then complain about being called out for what they are.

Racists hate being called racist and deplorables hate being called deplorables.

Yet they think that they should feel free to call people fags, n******, and everything else.

 

[ryseing]

This is what I never understand, that people hold Hillary to some 'trustworthy' label but completely ignore the non-stop, blatant lying that Donald Drumpf engages in. He'll be ON TAPE saying something and he'll deny it was said. He literally will deny anything if it doesn't suit his agenda, yet Hillary is the untrustworthy one. Baffling double standards.

Thirty years of media slander. That's why Hillary is viewed as untrustworthy.

Never mind that according to Politifact she's more trustworthy than Obama (51% true/mostly true statements compared to 48%)

 

[massivekettle]

who gives a shit about warmth

Guess I meant authenticity instead. It's 5am here. No need to be rude about it.

 

[maquiladora]

No, he doesn't wanna die in jail. The only reason he hasn't been arrested yet is because it looks bad to arrest a candidate in the middle of an election. After the 2nd though, that's his ass if he does anything else stupid.

He is already laying the groundwork for it by repeatedly planting the notion that the election will be rigged and stolen. He is whipping up his base into what will be an angry frenzy on election night. And if he continues to do that, he won't need to say the words "start a riot". He will have created the conditions for the violence to start by itself.

 

[TheSpoiler]

who gives a shit about warmth

I dunno, she kinda reminds me of a nagging mom or wife.

Spoiler

/s

 

[Toxi]

The conspiracy theorist in me worries that Russia hacks the polling stations and then Trump turns these conversations back on Hilary when there is a protest

...but then again I'm in Canada and my voting is done with good old paper so I have no idea how the electric ballots work lol

Tone down those conspiracy theorist instincts. It's the path to the dark side.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

The conspiracy theorist in me worries that Russia hacks the polling stations and then Trump turns these conversations back on Hilary when there is a protest

...but then again I'm in Canada and my voting is done with good old paper so I have no idea how the electric ballots work lol

Voting is so decentralized in the US and often the networks which polling places are used have no outside connections that the fraud needed to change an election would be almost impossible to do without being immediately noticed.

 

[MogCakes]

He is pretty much trying to incite a civil war.

 

[Effnine]

This is the headline tomorrow, no doubt.

I work at a paper and the suggested Associated Press headline was pretty much this. It's going to be the main topic on every small-medium paper across the country.

 

[CreepingFear]

He is pretty much trying to incite a civil war.

Or multiple Oklahoma City type events. I hope everyone remembers this.

 

[Savitar]

He is pretty much trying to incite a civil war.

The Republicans have basically been making it a "Us vs Them" thing for a decade plus now, Trump is essentially the product of that. The kicker is he doesn't listen to them either, they made their own monster and it ripped them apart as well.

 

[Krejlooc]

STAMINA!

STAH-MIN-UH.

 

[CrispyBoar]

uh huh both sides yadda yadda

the point is Trump is a uniquely horrific candidate, and Clinton is a fucking glorious angel personally blessed by Jesus Christ in comparison. Trump has been endorsed by no credible newspapers, the first ever for a candidate because of how bad he is. Republican newspapers have come out and endorsed a Democrat for the first time in some cases 180 years. Dozens of Republicans in the Senate have come out against him. Dozens in the House.

Trump is a racist, misogynist, bigot, xenophobe sexual predator. Hillary is a bit careless with emails. There is no comparison. You could on principle disagree with every one of Hillary's policies and STILL she is the preferable candidate, because she isn't a horrific human being who hates anyone of color and anyone with a vagina. Unlike Trump, she hasn't advocated for committing war crimes against women and children. Unlike Trump, she hasn't come out for breaking the constitution on separation of church and state and on freedom of speech and others. Unlike Trump, she hasn't said she would refuse to concede or whined like a petulant baby about election results. She hasn't sexually molested women. She hasn't been a racist monster.


Sorry, no. I will not let Trump supporters off of responsibility for letting this monster loose on our Democracy. I will nail every last one of these nasty fuckers to the wall on this issue whenever possible, deplorable as they are, for throwing any semblance of personal respect out the window for a fleeting victory. They wanted to win more than they cared about the health of America or the way its citizens are treated.

And for that, there is no forgiveness as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to get to know these people, because they're so fundamentally broken as human beings. Trump isn't Romney. He isn't even Bush. He's something else, a nothing, a loser, an symbol of anti-Americanism, someone who fundamentally misunderstands why we are great as a country (and where we are not great). He is a danger to our Democracy. And people who support him are not going to be allowed to simply pretend they are not accountable for this shit. They are going to be called out for being deplorables, just like Hillary did.

I wouldn't waste your breath on ksharp any further. He's proven to us that he will defend Trump to the ends of the earth no matter what he says or does.

On another note, I hope that Obama or someone else will have the National Guard, etc. on every state, on every city on November 8th to prevent any tragedies from happening.

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

I don't know about riots when was the last time angry white dudes really took to the streets en masse?

 

[Lightning_Roller]

Shut the fuck up, you whiny orange bitch!! No one wants to hear your sorry ass talk anymore. Just lose and fade into irrelevancy, please!!

 

[Krejlooc]

Or multiple Oklahoma City type events. I hope everyone remembers this.

Or multiple oregon events. People remember that, right?

 

[zethren]

This MOTHERFUCKER.

Ban him, bish. Save us all

 

[The Kree]

He is already laying the groundwork for it by repeatedly planting the notion that the election will be rigged and stolen. He is whipping up his base into what will be an angry frenzy on election night. And if he continues to do that, he won't need to say the words "start a riot". He will have created the conditions for the violence to start by itself.

I agree, but he'll walk it back and cover his ass. This is a tantrum that won't last. And the majority of his base lives too comfortably to throw their lives away by rioting or worse.

 

[Krejlooc]

I don't know about riots when was the last time angry white dudes really took to the streets?

The KKK does it like every month

This is basically the mentality of a trump supporter:

 

[massivekettle]

uh huh both sides yadda yadda

the point is Trump is a uniquely horrific candidate, and Clinton is a fucking glorious angel personally blessed by Jesus Christ in comparison. Trump has been endorsed by no credible newspapers, the first ever for a candidate because of how bad he is. Republican newspapers have come out and endorsed a Democrat for the first time in some cases 180 years. Dozens of Republicans in the Senate have come out against him. Dozens in the House.

Trump is a racist, misogynist, bigot, xenophobe sexual predator. Hillary is a bit careless with emails. There is no comparison. You could on principle disagree with every one of Hillary's policies and STILL she is the preferable candidate, because she isn't a horrific human being who hates anyone of color and anyone with a vagina. Unlike Trump, she hasn't advocated for committing war crimes against women and children. Unlike Trump, she hasn't come out for breaking the constitution on separation of church and state and on freedom of speech and others. Unlike Trump, she hasn't said she would refuse to concede or whined like a petulant baby about election results. She hasn't sexually molested women. She hasn't been a racist monster.


Sorry, no. I will not let Trump supporters off of responsibility for letting this monster loose on our Democracy. I will nail every last one of these nasty fuckers to the wall on this issue whenever possible, deplorable as they are, for throwing any semblance of personal respect out the window for a fleeting victory. They wanted to win more than they cared about the health of America or the way its citizens are treated.

And for that, there is no forgiveness as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to get to know these people, because they're so fundamentally broken as human beings. Trump isn't Romney. He isn't even Bush. He's something else, a nothing, a loser, an symbol of anti-Americanism, someone who fundamentally misunderstands why we are great as a country (and where we are not great). He is a danger to our Democracy. And people who support him are not going to be allowed to simply pretend they are not accountable for this shit. They are going to be called out for being deplorables, just like Hillary did.

"yadda yadda yadda" I nearly stopped after your wonderful spin of the email situation but I continued out of respect.

Look, let's just agree to disagree. At the end of the day, the world is made up of very different people and you need to be able to respect everyone's free will - not everyone will share your opinions or views of the world. Let democracy decide the victor.

 

[Krejlooc]

"yadda yadda yadda" I nearly stopped after your wonderful spin of the email situation but I continued out of respect.

Look, let's just agree to disagree. At the end of the day, the world is made up of very different people and you need to be able to respect everyone's free will - not everyone will share your opinions or views of the world. Let democracy decide the victor.

Unless trump loses, of course.

 

[EnlightenedMint]

Pence just got in line with Trump too.

 

[Armaros]

"yadda yadda yadda" I nearly stopped after your wonderful spin of the email situation but I continued out of respect.

Look, let's just agree to disagree. At the end of the day, the world is made up of very different people and you need to be able to respect everyone's free will - not everyone will share your opinions or views of the world. Let democracy decide the victor.

And you about your spin at willfully ignoring any and all of Trump's grotesques problems?

And your Candidate said he wont accept democracy deciding the victor, he has stated that its rigged and wont accept a lose.

 

[Ekai]

So I know it's not legally required for a candidate to concede, but if he doesn't have any legitimate proof that the results are incorrect, can't this be considered a treasonous action and punishable?

I mean its one thing if somehow impossibly theres irrefutable proof that some problem occurred that called for investigation, but he doesn't have that because it doesnt exist.

He and his supporters will create fake evidence or claim all of the people in "these areas" (let's be real, they want to harass PoC and prevent them from voting) robbed them of the election and scream fraud in the streets. They'll riot and perhaps actively try to kill so many just because they don't get their way. I hate the right-wing. The politicians and their base. They're all heartless animals.

"yadda yadda yadda" I nearly stopped after your wonderful spin of the email situation but I continued out of respect.

Look, let's just agree to disagree. At the end of the day, the world is made up of very different people and you need to be able to respect everyone's free will - not everyone will share your opinions or views of the world. Let democracy decide the victor.

I noticed you never responded to my questions a few months back. Iirc they were related to the SC and how the right-wing wants to legalize torture of LGBT citizens. You claimed you would in a PM.

I don't know about riots when was the last time angry white dudes really took to the streets en masse?

They do all the time when it comes to sports.

 

[Amir0x]

"yadda yadda yadda" I nearly stopped after your wonderful spin of the email situation but I continued out of respect.

Look, let's just agree to disagree. At the end of the day, the world is made up of very different people and you need to be able to respect everyone's free will - not everyone will share your opinions or views of the world. Let democracy decide the victor.

No, I don't respect racists, misogynists, bigots or xenophobes or those who vigorously support one. Being tolerant does not mean being tolerant of the intolerant.

But once again, as all "both sides" people and all "Trump" supporters continue to do, what made you stop in my post was the way I commented on her harmless e-mails - which have been confirmed over and over to have put no one in danger and which the FBI repeatedly said was merely careless and not illegal - and not, ya know, the literal laundry list of crimes and grotesque behavior committed by Trump. Don't object to Trump being a sexual predator or saying Mexican judges can't cover his Trump University fraud case. Oh no, you should be more fair about emails. Give me a goddamn break. I'm not supposed to call anyone deplorable here? Right.

This is a Democracy, and in a Democracy I get to call people who vote for this orange fuckface deplorable and racist because they motherfuckin' are.

 

[toddhunter]

"yadda yadda yadda" I nearly stopped after your wonderful spin of the email situation but I continued out of respect.

Look, let's just agree to disagree. At the end of the day, the world is made up of very different people and you need to be able to respect everyone's free will - not everyone will share your opinions or views of the world. Let democracy decide the victor.

If you really believe that you would vote democrat. The republican party platform is specifically based on taking away rights from people because they are different.

 

[massivekettle]

And you about your spin at willfully ignoring any and all of Trump's grotesques problems?

And your Candidate said he wont accept democracy deciding the victor, he has stated that its rigged and wont accept a lose.

What are you talking about? I'm not spinning anything at all here in this thread.

And he's not my candidate. I still firmly believe in democracy; Trump is stupid for not doing so, but it's probably the only card he could play at this point.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

This may have set the wheels in motion for a legitimate landslide.

 

[geestack]

Guess I meant authenticity instead. It's 5am here. No need to be rude about it.

alright, sorry.

i just don't ever understand what "authenticity" means since it's a very person-to-person thing. you're saying you feel that she's untrustworthy, ok. personally, i feel like she is very authentic, ironically, because of her "lack of charisma" or whatever. she comes across as someone who is very analytical and prefers to just do work. she reminds me of a lot of people whom i have worked with because of her quiet confidence. you don't notice how good a job they're doing because they're so busy doing the job.

contrast that with someone like marco rubio or paul ryan or ted "zodiac killer" cruz who i think are eminently waaaaaaay more fake and lack "authenticity". rubio says that donald trump is unfit for president and shouldn't be in charge of nuclear weapons but comes out and endorses him anyway. even now, he refuses to back off his endorsement despite publicly condemning his remarks about sexually assaulting women because the dude needs his voters to come show up in florida. paul ryan is the ultimate coward gas bag, trying to be some kind of party uniter but but ends up just looking craven as hell. trump has been attacking him nonstop and now even the republican voters are beginning to pillory him! ted cruz, well, we all know what happened to him: greatest political timing ever.

 

[Beartruck]

He thinks Hillary shouldn't even be allowed to vote? So is that a "shes crooked!" thing or an accidental huge misogynist thing?

Silly me, its probably both.

 

[Izuna]

im scared

 

[Krejlooc]

And he's not my candidate. I still firmly believe in democracy; Trump is stupid for doing so, but it's probably the only card he could play at this point.

Every single one of these independent sentence clauses are at odds with each other. every single one.

LOL you must seriously think the posters on this site are stupid.

 

[Armaros]

What are you talking about? I'm not spinning anything at all here in this thread.

And he's not my candidate. I still firmly believe in democracy; Trump is stupid for doing so, but it's probably the only card he could play at this point.

You said you aren't spinning and then started spinning so hard to legitimized what he just said you could be a helicopter.

 

[massivekettle]

If you really believe that you would vote democrat. The republican party platform is specifically based on taking away rights from people because they are different.

I agree, but it's incredibly hard to warm up to Hillary.

No, I don't respect racists, misogynists, bigots or xenophobes or those who vigorously support one. Being tolerant does not mean being tolerant of the intolerant.

But once again, as all "both sides" people and all "Trump" supporters continue to do, what made you stop in my post was the way I commented on her harmless e-mails - which have been confirmed over and over to have put no one in danger and which the FBI repeatedly said was merely careless and not illegal - and not, ya know, the literal laundry list of crimes and grotesque behavior committed by Trump. Don't object to Trump being a sexual predator or saying Mexican judges can't cover his Trump University fraud case. Oh no, you should be more fair about emails. Give me a goddamn break. I'm not supposed to call anyone deplorable here? Right.

This is a Democracy, and in a Democracy I get to call people who vote for this orange fuckface deplorable and racist because they motherfuckin' are.

Trump is getting his ass handed to him over those so-called crimes, so not sure what your point is here.

alright, sorry.

i just don't ever understand what "authenticity" means since it's a very person-to-person thing. you're saying you feel that she's untrustworthy, ok. personally, i feel like she is very authentic, ironically, because of her "lack of charisma" or whatever. she comes across as someone who is very analytical and prefers to just do work. she reminds me of a lot of people whom i have worked with because of her quiet confidence. you don't notice how good a job they're doing because they're so busy doing the job.

contrast that with someone like marco rubio or paul ryan or ted "zodiac killer" cruz who i think are eminently waaaaaaay more fake and lack "authenticity". rubio says that donald trump is unfit for president and shouldn't be in charge of nuclear weapons but comes out and endorses him anyway. even now, he refuses to back off his endorsement despite publicly condemning his remarks about sexually assaulting women because the dude needs his voters to come show up in florida. paul ryan is the ultimate coward gas bag, trying to be some kind of party uniter but but ends up just looking craven as hell. trump has been attacking him nonstop and now even the republican voters are beginning to pillory him! ted cruz, well, we all know what happened to him: greatest political timing ever.

I don't think any of the GOP candidates were trustworthy either. More like used car salesmen.

Every single one of these independent sentence clauses are at odds with each other. every single one.

LOL you must seriously think the posters on this site are stupid.

Edited my post. No I don't think posters are stupid, FFS. It's crazy late here and I'm on a few hours of sleep only.

You said you aren't spinning and then started spinning so hard to legitimized what he just said you could be a helicopter.

I'm not legitimizing what he did; I'm saying that's probably they only stunt he could pull to try to get some traction in the polls. A run-of-the-mill answer wouldn't have done anything for him here, considering there are only 3 weeks left.

 

[Ekai]

@ksharp, if you want to avoid hard-hitting questions, by all means, keep doing so.

Also rape is a so-called crime? Are you fricking serious right now, ksharp?

 

[Mahonay]

Fuck this guy. I hope he's ruined after the election.

 

[Neuromancer]

There's the trademark Trump winning temperament again. Not to be confused with being a whiny little bitch.

 

[Amir0x]

I agree, but it's incredibly hard to warm up to Hillary.



Trump is getting his ass handed to him over those so-called crimes, so not sure what your point is here.

My point is that like Trump's actual supporters, you instinctively chose to highlight that I wasn't mean enough about the e-mails while ignoring the literal laundry list of horrific shit Trump has done. Your focus was specifically biased toward something that is self-evidently a nothingburger when contrasted with the shit taking down Trump at the moment. There's no comparison.

You outted yourself and your perspective by how you chose to highlight what you felt was important in my post. It was filled with content damning Trump on every level with claims that are verified and are unprecedented for any candidate in American history. And yet you could not help yourself... your instinct was to attack Hillary on e-mails. Because that is your priority.

And that speaks volumes. Your "let Democracy play out" answer is a thinly veiled shield protecting yourself from deeper responsibility for your viewpoints.

 

[Suikoguy]

@ksharp, if you want to avoid hard-hitting questions, by all means, keep doing so.

Also rape is a so-called crime? Are you fricking serious right now, ksharp?

I thought you were kidding, but yes apparently sexual assault is a "so called crime"

Trump is getting his ass handed to him over those so-called crimes, so not sure what your point is here.

Holy Shit.

His avatar must actually represent himself, as that's exactly what a person who would say that would look like.

 

[CHC]

Fuck this guy. I hope he's ruined after the election.

When this all started I simply wanted him to lose. Now.... I'm right there with you.

 

[massivekettle]

@ksharp, if you want to avoid hard-hitting questions, by all means, keep doing so.

Also rape is a so-called crime? Are you fricking serious right now, ksharp?

I don't even recall your question, mate.

Has Trump been formally charged, though? Hence the "so-called" as all we have right now are allegations I believe.

 

[Zackat]

This is a sad day for our country.


Go out and vote everyone. Please.

 

[Suikoguy]

I don't even recall your question, mate.

Has Trump been formally charged, though? Hence the "so-called" as all we have right now are allegations I believe.

Just allegations from 10 Women, that's it.
for the "so-called" crime of Sexual Assault.

 

[kaching]

I don't know about riots when was the last time angry white dudes really took to the streets en masse?

You might be right, they prefer to operate in terrori, sorry, "militias", like the one in Kansas that was stopped from bombing a building full of immigrants just recently.

I agree, but it's incredibly hard to warm up to Hillary.

"warm up" to her? Jeez, dude, you don't have date her, you just have to realize she's the most viable candidate for the job.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Guys, stop interacting with ksharp. Most of Canada Poli-GAF has already.

 

[Ekai]

I don't even recall your question, mate.

Has Drumpf been formally charged, though? Hence the "so-called" as all we have right now are allegations I believe.

I've asked you to address this twice now and both times you didn't respond. I also pointed out facts in regards to what Obama got done despite an obstructionist Republican congress.

Considering he's literally on trial for raping a 13 year old and have had numerous women come forward with allegations and he literally is on tape saying he can use his position to just have his way with women, there's no defense for this. There really is not.

 

[massivekettle]

My point is that like Trump's actual supporters, you instinctively chose to highlight that I wasn't mean enough about the e-mails while ignoring the literal laundry list of horrific shit Trump has done. Your focus was specifically biased toward something that is self-evidently a nothingburger when contrasted with the shit taking down Trump at the moment. There's no comparison.

You outted yourself and your perspective by how you chose to highlight what you felt was important in my post. It was filled with content damning Trump on every level with claims that are verified and are unprecedented for any candidate in American history. And yet you could not help yourself... your instinct was to attack Hillary on e-mails. Because that is your priority.

And that speaks volumes. Your "let Democracy play out" answer is a thinly veiled shield protecting yourself from deeper responsibility for your viewpoints.

You're over-thinking this. I don't disagree with your facts on Trump. I just want to balance your point of view with regards to Hillary, as your posts are pretty much one-sided. I'd like to think she is a clean candidate on paper, but in reality she isn't. That doesn't mean Trump is better though (just to clarify)

 

[maquiladora]

AP not messing around with the gravity of Trump's statement. The AP folks.