More like, the vast vast vast majority of complaints people bring about the UI aren't based in fact. It's sluggish to load pages sometimes, that's a universal truth everyone admits, but shit like "unwieldy accessing basic menus" like..what are you even talking about? or people who say it's a jumble of icons. Sorry, an icon is a replacement for words with a picture, shit like that is just patently false. If it could be snappier and not have shit like achievements or settings as seperate mini apps that take a moment to load, it would be fantastic, but 'confusing' is not a word that makes sense in this day and age comparing it to other console UIs. They're all 'confusing' in the same minor ways, and anyone that's ever touched a phone or computer should be able to intuit what they're doing within minutes.
Coming from the PS4, I am blown away by the Xbox One.
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More like, the vast vast vast majority of complaints people bring about the UI aren't based in fact. It's sluggish to load pages sometimes, that's a universal truth everyone admits, but shit like "unwieldy accessing basic menus" like..what are you even talking about? or people who say it's a jumble of icons. Sorry, an icon is a replacement for words with a picture, shit like that is just patently false. If it could be snappier and not have shit like achievements or settings as seperate mini apps that take a moment to load, it would be fantastic, but 'confusing' is not a word that makes sense in this day and age comparing it to other console UIs. They're all 'confusing' in the same minor ways, and anyone that's ever touched a phone or computer should be able to intuit what they're doing within minutes.
I don't think anyone is arguing that it's slow. It is pretty slow, slow doesn't make it confusing etc.
What about it is unwieldy when accessing basic menus? What menus are you talking about here? Getting to where you need to be is easy and incredibly fast in terms of button presses. Literally everything is at your finger tips.
How long it takes to for friends to come up, accessing the full game list and it taking forever to load. It's slow doing anything not to mention parties not working all the time, either someone showing disconnected and being unable to hear even if they are online and ingame. The ready to install list taking a long time to come up.
bad is a word that I would use for it, it has regressed and not in a good way. It's slightly better since they moved the game and apps to the top right but it's still very poor.
The Strokes
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Everybody who hasn't seen the PS4 one, I guess?
I really liked DS4 controller when I started using it a couple of years ago but then I got a Xbox One controller for my PC. I was blown away by the comfort and how well the controller is designed. I am invested heavily in PS ecosystem but MS for sure has the better controller. I wish I can use MS controller on my PS4.
The art for my games list takes a minute to populate sinceit's got so many tiles, but the functionality is there the moment I go to it. Friends list doesn't take me any time to come up either.
The former problem is surely directly related to how many images it's loading at once (I just deal with the default hard drive since I'm primarily a PC gamer, for instance, so my 'installed' games list is pretty small and loads instantly. my ready to install list is like 70 things as you can see, which isn't gigantic but isn't small, and that takes a bit, but as noted I can still USE it just fine I just can't see the pictures).
Your the exception to the rule I would argue.
That's speed (in terms of how long it takes stuff to load). So again... what basic menus are you trying to access that is "unwieldy"?
You said it's "slow and unwieldy" and yet, when asked for examples, you go back to how slow it is.. Nobody is saying it's fast.
I have both, UI on both have their issues.. .PS wins cause Xbox One can be slow... I really like the controller over the Sony DS - this is my first Xbox and been Sony x4. I'm not a graphics/30-60fps guy (when you hit 40s seeing the screen clear is a plus) - but as long as I dont have crashes - I'm okay, I'm too lazy to upgrade my PS HDD and my XB1 has a larger HDD so I default to that when there are no major issues. If I had a gripe about the XB1 - installing a game from disk - PS4 is so fast vs XB its pathetic... Hence the reason I wont upgrade my HDD as Im mainly physical...
B1gg_Randall
Member
Ever since the last update, my PS4 main screen has only six tiles.
It's minimal, it's clean and it's fast. The folders really do wonders if you set them up right.
- Store
- What's new (friends/community feed)
- Games
- TV/Media
- Apps
- Library
I got mines just like this but I got a PSN Now folder for some reason lmao
Bruce Springsteen
Member
I think the current X1 UI is the worst thing I've ever used, makes me not want to even turn it on
singhjeet29
Member
I too was blown away by the nonsensical bullshit I had to sift through to get anything done in their god forsaken UI.
Parties is the big one. Where like I mentioned it will disconnect users sometimes out of the blue when nothing has changed or not let invites go out to people in a party.
Uhm, lets be a bit more objective and add that this button has been added just a few months ago at that position if I remember right. It took Microsoft over 2,5 years to add this button, I wonder just why they added it there
.Also the my apps section was also improved a lot not too long ago I think.
When was the last time you used Xbox One?
Just curious because that did used to be an issue like 2 years ago or something (probably way off
but at least a year) but hasn't been for me since they updated party chat however long ago. This is actually the first time I've heard about any party chat complaints in a while..SpecialAgentDaleCooper
Banned
I experience nothing at all like that, the friends list is is very fast as is the list of games, I suggest you try changing your DNS setting, your ISP may be shaping traffic.
Uhm, lets be a bit more objective and add that this button has been added just a few months ago at that position if I remember right. It took Microsoft over 2,5 years to add this button, I wonder just why they added it there
Also the my apps section was also improved a lot not too long ago I think.
I love when people post LITERAL bullshit.
Here's a screenshot of my home screen over two years ago
That's the 'old and bad' UI. Notice what is, again, directly to the right from my 'current' running app (Black flag if that wasn't obvious)
EDIT: On second thought, you're right that the new UI didn't have the button right there for about...6 months. It was down with the pins. Which was still only one button press away (RT), but is slightly less intuitive. But before AND after that period it was always 'right'.
SpecialAgentDaleCooper
Banned
Based upon what? Testimony here? Yea, ok. Given the provably false things people keep repeating I think I'll just give up on this thread. You're right, I've somehow got the magic one that is much better than everyone elses, lol.
cyber_ninja
Member
I'm blown away that you were blow away op. I love the games and controller but that UI is terrible, slow, unintuitive and ugly .
Not really a fan of either UI on the Xbone or PS4, but lately I'd give the edge for the PS4 just because it has custom game folders now, and they're quicker to get to than scrolling all the way down the Xbone for your pinned apps.
I still think Steam Big Picture Mode is a better UI on a gamepad. It's just faster to navigate to basic social features, your most recent game is directly below the library tab, and it lets you know what games were recently update to see if there is a reason to go back. Everything in big boxes, and your library doesn't just have one row or column. That said, I'll still prefer just having the vanilla Steam UI with a list broken into my own custom categories, and clicking on a game has a bunch of info or I can just double click to launch.
I still think Steam Big Picture Mode is a better UI on a gamepad. It's just faster to navigate to basic social features, your most recent game is directly below the library tab, and it lets you know what games were recently update to see if there is a reason to go back. Everything in big boxes, and your library doesn't just have one row or column. That said, I'll still prefer just having the vanilla Steam UI with a list broken into my own custom categories, and clicking on a game has a bunch of info or I can just double click to launch.
The Albatross
Member
The Xbox has some major UI issues related to performance. I've had an Xbox One for a couple of years and while I love the console, the performance of the UI frustrates me. It's still my primary console (largely because more of my friends are on the Xbox One), but the UI issues are a pain.
But, like the OP said, there's a few things that Microsoft consistently nails out of the park with their consoles, and it's the friends experience. Creating a party and launching a game together is, basically, flawless. But there are some other issues, like navigating unless you're very accustomed to the UI can be a measure of patience. I'm used to jumping pages with LB/RB, but navigating the blocks/tiles is awkward with a controller. Other quick shortcuts like hitting RT to get to your tiles/games/pins, is convenient, but I'd wager somewhere south of 5% of people actually know how to do that, and it's not intuitive.
For usability from a microsoft console, they really haven't improved the Xbox 360 blades interface w/ quick menu using the Xbox button. now, that UI is obviously super dated visually... A perfect candidate for 2004-era design language and style. But for packing a lto of data onto the screen, it was very useful from a user's perspective. They took a huge step back with the "NEw Xbox Experience," which was Microsoft's worst UI... One of the poorest designs for a console dashboard ever from a user's perspective.
But, like the OP said, there's a few things that Microsoft consistently nails out of the park with their consoles, and it's the friends experience. Creating a party and launching a game together is, basically, flawless. But there are some other issues, like navigating unless you're very accustomed to the UI can be a measure of patience. I'm used to jumping pages with LB/RB, but navigating the blocks/tiles is awkward with a controller. Other quick shortcuts like hitting RT to get to your tiles/games/pins, is convenient, but I'd wager somewhere south of 5% of people actually know how to do that, and it's not intuitive.
For usability from a microsoft console, they really haven't improved the Xbox 360 blades interface w/ quick menu using the Xbox button. now, that UI is obviously super dated visually... A perfect candidate for 2004-era design language and style. But for packing a lto of data onto the screen, it was very useful from a user's perspective. They took a huge step back with the "NEw Xbox Experience," which was Microsoft's worst UI... One of the poorest designs for a console dashboard ever from a user's perspective.
The UI? Is this a joke? The 360 had a better UI.
Honestly i'm the complete opposite. The XB1 feels clunky to me in every way imaginable and slow. From navigating the UI to Installing games, slow as hell.
The shoulder buttons are clicky on the OG pad, it's horrible. The only good thing about my xbox is EA access.
Honestly i'm the complete opposite. The XB1 feels clunky to me in every way imaginable and slow. From navigating the UI to Installing games, slow as hell.
The shoulder buttons are clicky on the OG pad, it's horrible. The only good thing about my xbox is EA access.
anothertech
Member
UI is worse, slower, confusing
Apps are clunky (Netflix issues since launch)
Some features outright broken (like snap)
Games run with less performance
Controller is a matter of preference really
I love my Xbone for the exvlusives, but Not sure about the reasons you posted op. Definitely not blown away in comparison lol.
Apps are clunky (Netflix issues since launch)
Some features outright broken (like snap)
Games run with less performance
Controller is a matter of preference really
I love my Xbone for the exvlusives, but Not sure about the reasons you posted op. Definitely not blown away in comparison lol.
Press RT.
LinkMaster111
Member
I was actually blown away by how clunky, unintuitive, and just downright slow the Xbox One's UI is. Personally, I also prefer the Dualshock 4, but I can understand how you'd like the Xbox One controller more. The UI thing though, I just don't get that.
SpecialAgentDaleCooper
Banned
Fighting an uphill battle here man, too many don't want to put in the minimal effort to do it right, rather complain about it being different. Because different somehow = learning curve that is greater.
AA cup of burn
I definitely prefer the Xbox One's UI over PS4's, even if the XB has some performance issues at time. At least in my mind, it seems like PS has been using the same "design" since.. what, the PS3? Aesthetically, I just prefer the cleaner look of the XB UI, among other things. I wouldn't necessarily say that the differences between the two are enough to warrant having been "blown away", but everyone has their own preference.
PS4 UI is faster, but Xbox is better all around I think. You can tell Microsoft is an OS company and Sony makes TVs.
Some thing really are annoying about the PS4 UI, in particular, you can't easily clear all upload notifications, and you can clear normal notifications, like friend requests.
Is there some secret way I don't know about to do either of those things?
Some thing really are annoying about the PS4 UI, in particular, you can't easily clear all upload notifications, and you can clear normal notifications, like friend requests.
Is there some secret way I don't know about to do either of those things?
Robot Pants
Member
I don't agree at all
Gotta say I disagree except for the controller. I like both the DS 4 and xbox one controller for different reasons. Both are good controllers overall.
I prefer my PS4 over my Xbox One S. Only had my XBONE S for about two or three weeks. Definitely only have it for a few games. If these games were on the PS4 then I would never get one. I love the 360 over the PS3 last gen and the PS2 and GCN over the Xbox gen before that. Not sure why MS couldn't take what worked last generation and continue to improve that. Oh wait, I know. They are trying to make all windows products tie together.
I prefer my PS4 over my Xbox One S. Only had my XBONE S for about two or three weeks. Definitely only have it for a few games. If these games were on the PS4 then I would never get one. I love the 360 over the PS3 last gen and the PS2 and GCN over the Xbox gen before that. Not sure why MS couldn't take what worked last generation and continue to improve that. Oh wait, I know. They are trying to make all windows products tie together.
Zarathos no Daimaoh
Neo Member
To each their own . I don't share your opinion anyway , you might be blow away by the way friends and chat options are displayed on XB1 , except party chat is still buggy ...
Head.spawn
Junior Member
What about it is complicated? What do you have trouble doing/finding?
SpecialAgentDaleCooper
Banned
"that it's slow". seems to be the most common reply to that question.
TheHolyTurnip
Member
The UI on both consoles is garbage. The last great UI was blades on the 360, and it's all been downhill since.
pixellated_man
Member
Everyone's entitled to their opinions but me and my brother's experience of Xbox one S was somewhat less positive than op's. Both of us took advantage of the recent deals on the console, having already bought ps4 years ago. We were expecting to find a better U.I and general OS experience than the ps4. Was really surprising then that both of us feel the ps4 (with the latest firmware update) is easily superior.
lol ... it continues.
You will probably not get an answer because everyone who says its complicated probably tried it out for 2 seconds and told himself "No, this is different to PS4 ... it must be complicated"
RobbieNick
Junior Member
PS4 is my preffered console choice, but what the XB1 has going for it is bandwidth. All my streaming always comes out in perfect HD and downloads are much, much faster vs. PSN incredibly slow internet speeds.
Xb1's biggest failure however, is the immediacy of playing the game I just bought. On PS4 it takes minutes to start a single player game while the update downloads in the background. I can't play online without the update, but that's okay.
XB1 however, you put in the disk and it feels like it's downloading both the entire game and the update online and can take HOURS.
XB1 definitely needs better UI with it's store (360 section please), but I like being able to pin my favorite games to the home screen.
Xb1's biggest failure however, is the immediacy of playing the game I just bought. On PS4 it takes minutes to start a single player game while the update downloads in the background. I can't play online without the update, but that's okay.
XB1 however, you put in the disk and it feels like it's downloading both the entire game and the update online and can take HOURS.
XB1 definitely needs better UI with it's store (360 section please), but I like being able to pin my favorite games to the home screen.