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PS4 Pro out in the wild, video.

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What is the difference between 2160p - YUV420 and 2160p - RGB ? Which is better and has the best IQ and what do we need for it?
 
People are so funny...for the weeks leading up to launch people keep asking countless questions about the fan noise of a product nobody has even got their hands on yet...

Then as soon as we get some reports about fan noise, it immediately dismissed because "launch ps4's were quiet too!"

I mean, really people?
 
Metfanant said:
People are so funny...for the weeks leading up to launch people keep asking countless questions about the fan noise of a product nobody has even got their hands on yet...

Then as soon as we get some reports about fan noise, it immediately dismissed because "launch ps4's were quiet too!"

I mean, really people?
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It's fair to be skeptical since initial was a thing with the PS3 and OG PS4.
 
My mind is blown! A youtube comments section that has usernames I recognize and isn't filled with hate speech. Also, looks better than I thought design wise. Not quite as ugly as I'd imagined it may be, though it could be different when I see it in person.

Gaspard said:
It's fair to be skeptical since initial was a thing with the PS3 and OG PS4.
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My PS4 has never been quiet. Even at launch it was loud as hell.
 
PodcastFips said:
I don't smoke and I also clear the dust off the vents regularly. Mine still runs like it did on day 1, really silent.
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My launch unit must be an outlier here. It was loud from the start when running a game like Killzone or Infamous. I routinely clean it and even still it's louder than any of my other consoles. They're all rather silent when not gaming, but I've only ever heard my Xbox One when it's reading/spinning a disc.

That said, it got a whole lot louder over time and adoptions of two stray cats and a dog. I have to spray it once a month with some compressed air, never opened it up and don't plan to now as I'm giving it away once my Pro arrives.
 
Metfanant said:
People are so funny...for the weeks leading up to launch people keep asking countless questions about the fan noise of a product nobody has even got their hands on yet...

Then as soon as we get some reports about fan noise, it immediately dismissed because "launch ps4's were quiet too!"

I mean, really people?
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Got 3 ps4's in my house all within first 3 months of launch.

Were quiet day 1 and 3 years later they are quiet too.
 
Tempted to check my local stores this weekend.

Rellik said:
The normal PS4 was also quiet on release. Overtime it got louder and louder even after cleaning it and applying new paste. Hopefully this one remains playable in a year's time.
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PS4 Pro is guilty until proven innocent a year from now.
 
PLASTICA-MAN said:
What is the difference between 2160p - YUV420 and 2160p - RGB ? Which is better and has the best IQ and what do we need for it?
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2160p RGB should give you the clearest, lossless colour output from games.

See here about chroma subsampling: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling
Keep in mind pretty much all consumer video content is compressed like this and the downgrade in picture is less perceptible at higher resolutions.

YUV420 might be useful if (like me) you have an older 2160p60 monitor with only an HDMI 1.4 port available, allowing you to pass lossy 2160p 60Hz video from the PS4 Pro via the older HDMI standard which had less bandwidth.
 
DjRalford said:
A 4K signal going through the PSVR box is delivered as YUV420 only, so i am assuming it is like a non HDR version maybe.
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Shin-Ra said:
2160p RGB should give you the clearest, lossless colour output from games.

See here about chroma subsampling: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling

YUV420 might be useful if (like me) you have an older 2160p60 monitor with only an HDMI 1.4 port available, allowing you to pass lossy 2160p 60Hz video from the PS4 Pro via the older HDMI standard which had less bandwidth.
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Thanks for the answer.
 
Nevyr said:
Got 3 ps4's in my house all within first 3 months of launch.

Were quiet day 1 and 3 years later they are quiet too.
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I've got 1 and you can't play it because it's so damn loud. Even with headphones on you can still hear it.

Some got a silent PS4, some got a jet engine.
 
PodcastFips said:
I don't smoke and I also clear the dust off the vents regularly. Mine still runs like it did on day 1, really silent.
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From the 3 consoles that i have personally owned and the now into the hundreds i have fixed for people....you are very lucky

Shit thermal paste and application combined with bad airflow design keeps me a busy man these days....seems to be many of the launch consoles and the 1st revision skus

I had 2 slim consoles in a few weeks back on an unrelated repair job and the paste and flow design was still pretty average so im not holding much hope for the pro design.
 
captainraincoat said:
From the 3 consoles that i have personally owned and the now into the hundreds i have fixed for people....you are very lucky

Shit thermal paste and application combined with bad airflow design keeps me a busy man these days....seems to be many of the launch consoles and the 1st revision skus

I had 2 slim consoles in a few weeks back on an unrelated repair job and the paste and flow design was still pretty average so im not holding much hope for the pro design.
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I may not buy one then if they haven't improved it. The paste and airflow design in the PS4 are a joke. I was really surprised when I opened mine and saw it.
 
captainraincoat said:
I had 2 slim consoles in a few weeks back on an unrelated repair job and the paste and flow design was still pretty average so im not holding much hope for the pro design.
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The paste quality is something I've been worried about. Hopefully someone takes notice of it on the pro during a teardown or something since it was such a big issue with the OG. Well I guess it would be difficult to eyeball it without heavy use...damn.
 
Rellik said:
I may not buy one then if they haven't improved it. The paste and airflow design in the PS4 are a joke. I was really surprised when I opened mine and saw it.
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It should definitely be improved for PS4 Pro, they learnt from the OG ps4 and the Slim ps4 the designs and all so put that experience towards the PS4 Pro
 
Have there been any unboxing videos yet? I'm just wondering if the Pro will come with an HDMI cable in the box or should I go ahead and order one of the high speed ones now.
 
Kyrios said:
I'm just imagining everyone watching the link put their ears up to the speakers to see if the console is loud or not lol



Found that weird too
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That's all I care about. I keep going back and forth between the Pro and Slim because I don't want another jet-engine in my room that also doubles as a heater, especially after enjoying my silent-as-shit and cool-running XBO-S.
 
Rellik said:
The normal PS4 was also quiet on release. Overtime it got louder and louder even after cleaning it and applying new paste. Hopefully this one remains playable in a year's time.
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It always depended on the game and how long it ran for me. It always spewed out enough heat for me to feel like I had play games naked though.
 
PLASTICA-MAN said:
What is the difference between 2160p - YUV420 and 2160p - RGB ? Which is better and has the best IQ and what do we need for it?
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Roughly:

At 4K, RGB will be 8bits per channel due to HDMI bandwidth limits whereas YUV will be 10 or 12 bits per channel (ideal for HDR - but not technically required).

However YUV will be lower resolution chroma data (luminance is always full res).

YUV420 is half res chroma both horizontally and vertically,
YUV422 is half res chroma horizontally.
YUV444 would be full res chroma (for 1080p)

Not all TVs support YUV422.
 
rec0ded1 said:
The paste quality is something I've been worried about. Hopefully someone takes notice of it on the pro during a teardown or something since it was such a big issue with the OG. Well I guess it would be difficult to eyeball it without heavy use...damn.
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The paste compound is not just the issue....its also the application of it.

It looks to of been done by human on most boards i have cracked open and i presume someone sticks little pills of this compound on the boards and it moves down the assembly line for the other assembly steps

The issue i found with some is that sometimes the paste isnt even covering the cpu...its sometimes half on with the rest squished off to the side...not sure how this sort of stuff gets through qa but it has.
 
Aztechnology said:
YUV420 is a different encoding methods for color spaces, YUV also tends to be more compressed as that was essentially what it was designed for.

RGB uses 3 color values from 0-255 to create colors, while YUV is analog color space uses gamma and chroma color settings to recreate the colors.

Mainly YUV is used for Analog devices, your old Super Nintendo, a VCR etc. I don't really know of a 4k component device, but I'm sure they are out there. RGB is the typical color space for digital. So it depends on your device, but I'd stick to RGB.
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lord pie said:
Roughly:

At 4K, RGB will be 8bits per channel due to HDMI bandwidth limits whereas YUV will be 10 or 12 bits per channel (ideal for HDR - but not technically required).

However YUV will be lower resolution chroma data (luminance is always full res).

YUV420 is half res chroma both horizontally and vertically,
YUV422 is half res chroma horizontally.
YUV444 would be full res chroma (for 1080p)

Not all TVs support YUV422.
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Huh. I am confused now. Which is better now RGB or YUV in 2160p? Why did they add YUV option for 2160p if it is an old tech.
 
Gestault said:
I'm really not a fan of that third "blade" on the physical system. It's too few to look like the PS2 stack, and doesn't look as good as the double-stack standard PS4.

It's that useless third bun in the Big Mac.
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I agree. It looks like the designers watched too much Event Horizon and thought "I love how they over designed every inch of this ship"

They did it with the camera too.

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This this wants to kill me.
 
Inceptional said:
That's all I care about. I keep going back and forth between the Pro and Slim because I don't want another jet-engine in my room that also doubles as a heater, especially after enjoying my silent-as-shit and cool-running XBO-S.
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Oh I don't blame you at all. I was just poking fun at all of us lol
 
ArkhamFantasy said:
He said on twitter it doesnt make as much noise as his normal PS4.
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Like others said, it's new. Also more powerful, and won't stress as much running standard 1080p games.

The Last of Us with Pro update in 4K mode should be the ultimate fan test. That game has been wrecking shit since PS3.
 
Pankratous said:
Guy has a metal rack as a shelf? The fuck?
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That airflow and anti dust collector.


I know people advised me to go ahead and get the PS4Pro but I'm still holding on until it's been out for at least a week in case problems show up, but man I want this beast!
 
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