Pjsprojects
Member
Those TF2 Pro pics look mid range pc. We need one of those images next to a pc image really.
Considering selling largely unused PC in favor of PS4 Pro, want advice on sale method
- Thread starter Dr_Boris_Goltz
- Start date
- Status
Those TF2 Pro pics look mid range pc. We need one of those images next to a pc image really.
Cheeseman Battitude
Member
I've got an i5 3450 and an R9 290, so a PS4 Pro would definitely do "4K" gaming better. Depending on how good Zen is, I had budgeted around £1500 on a kick-ass PC next year, but £1000 on a 4K TV and £500 on a PS4 Pro and some games would also get me a great gaming experience.
Considering how underclocked the PS4 pro is, you might actually do 4k gaming just as well on a 290. It's actually about the same graphical grunt.
Neither one is ideal for 4k gaming, mind you.
KingpinZero
Member
I understand OP feel, i mean, i can put myself in his shoes.
But then again, no, it's totally wrong.
Looking at the responses of the members in other ps4pro shots comparisons, it makes me sad to see how many people NEVER had gaming proprely. Everyone looks so shocked about the "clarity" of a downscaled game to 1080p, or a "native or upscaled" 4K shot.
That's must be the reason why the majority of pc users are laughing at those shots. I mean, even if those screenshots makes console users "wow" they're not even near what you can achieve with much less costs on pc. Oh and you can do this since, what, 4 years. Maybe more.
Look OP, i've been playing (before the gpu upgrade) with Witcher 3 on a single GTX970, maxed out at 4k, locking the game at 30fps on a native 4k monitor.
You don't need a PS4 pro or whatever console to do that. Your pc is fine, totally.
The point is: you want those console exclusives, which is totally fine and correct. So if you got money to burn and you already have a 4K/HDR Tv, go for it (you could sell or not sell your pc at this point).
If you need to buy everything from scratch, this includes:
PS4pro: 399$
TV 4K/HDR: starting from 600$
Games: 69,99 each (average)
Costs of online play, services
Then you're way off the average PC price to enjoy better things. Maybe, i repeat maybe, you could just buy a second hand standard PS4 and team it up with your PC.
Console exclusives are worth, but also it depends on your personal opinion. For me, they're not. For some others, they're essential. Up to the point that you need a console along your PC.
But i tell you what, someone in this thread was right, and for me, that's the key of the whole discussion:
You can't play all the games. Life gets in the way, we don't have such huge time.
So if PC isn't going to satisfy you because you cannot refrain to play with Uncharted 4 upscaled, go sell everything stick to console and call it a day.
But excluding those "esclusives", all the rest is multi platform and everything can be played at the same ratio/fps/pace/quality on PC with all the added perks.
So no, for me, it's not a wise thing to do. GOG, Origin, Steam, the sales and the price of the game keys you find around makes it too good (also all the other Bundle sites). Also free online play! Yay.
Naturally this is my POV so it could not be right, i'm aware of that. But i'm fine with having a console to couple with a PC, yes.
But then again, no, it's totally wrong.
Looking at the responses of the members in other ps4pro shots comparisons, it makes me sad to see how many people NEVER had gaming proprely. Everyone looks so shocked about the "clarity" of a downscaled game to 1080p, or a "native or upscaled" 4K shot.
That's must be the reason why the majority of pc users are laughing at those shots. I mean, even if those screenshots makes console users "wow" they're not even near what you can achieve with much less costs on pc. Oh and you can do this since, what, 4 years. Maybe more.
Look OP, i've been playing (before the gpu upgrade) with Witcher 3 on a single GTX970, maxed out at 4k, locking the game at 30fps on a native 4k monitor.
You don't need a PS4 pro or whatever console to do that. Your pc is fine, totally.
The point is: you want those console exclusives, which is totally fine and correct. So if you got money to burn and you already have a 4K/HDR Tv, go for it (you could sell or not sell your pc at this point).
If you need to buy everything from scratch, this includes:
PS4pro: 399$
TV 4K/HDR: starting from 600$
Games: 69,99 each (average)
Costs of online play, services
Then you're way off the average PC price to enjoy better things. Maybe, i repeat maybe, you could just buy a second hand standard PS4 and team it up with your PC.
Console exclusives are worth, but also it depends on your personal opinion. For me, they're not. For some others, they're essential. Up to the point that you need a console along your PC.
But i tell you what, someone in this thread was right, and for me, that's the key of the whole discussion:
You can't play all the games. Life gets in the way, we don't have such huge time.
So if PC isn't going to satisfy you because you cannot refrain to play with Uncharted 4 upscaled, go sell everything stick to console and call it a day.
But excluding those "esclusives", all the rest is multi platform and everything can be played at the same ratio/fps/pace/quality on PC with all the added perks.
So no, for me, it's not a wise thing to do. GOG, Origin, Steam, the sales and the price of the game keys you find around makes it too good (also all the other Bundle sites). Also free online play! Yay.
Naturally this is my POV so it could not be right, i'm aware of that. But i'm fine with having a console to couple with a PC, yes.
This is crazy, but if you simply don't play PC and want PS4 games then go for it! And friends on PS4 makes a big difference.
I'd say that's crazy. There are so many games on PC that aren't on console, or hit PC first, my mind boggles at taking this route.
Assuming you have a PS4 wouldn't it make better sense to sell that and keep your PS4 library and move to Pro?
As for selling it no idea. I've heard sometimes you get more breaking a PC down and selling the pieces but that might be myth from a few buddies.
I'd imagine Ebay or similar would be way to go.
In my experience a PC and PS4 combo gives access to a great mix of games and exclusives so it just seems an odd way to go to me.
I'll probably sell my PS4 to shift to PS4 Pro at some point but not the PC.
Assuming you have a PS4 wouldn't it make better sense to sell that and keep your PS4 library and move to Pro?
As for selling it no idea. I've heard sometimes you get more breaking a PC down and selling the pieces but that might be myth from a few buddies.
I'd imagine Ebay or similar would be way to go.
In my experience a PC and PS4 combo gives access to a great mix of games and exclusives so it just seems an odd way to go to me.
I'll probably sell my PS4 to shift to PS4 Pro at some point but not the PC.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
LOL, 70,- avarege for a console game? Are you serious?
anothertech
Member
If you use it for nothing more than gaming, sure it could be redundant.
But surfing the web and watching online videos is far easier on the PC, but can also be fine from your phone I suppose.
I just feel like a PC has much more useability to justify keeping it, regardless if you just use it as a web device 99% of the time.
But surfing the web and watching online videos is far easier on the PC, but can also be fine from your phone I suppose.
I just feel like a PC has much more useability to justify keeping it, regardless if you just use it as a web device 99% of the time.
JamesJoyce1882
Member
So you're buying a PS4 Pro for better quality graphics, but want to get rid of your PC with much better quality graphics?
Doesn't make much sense. If you want to get rid of your PC, get rid of it, but I don't see how it can be connected to PS4 Pro.
Doesn't make much sense. If you want to get rid of your PC, get rid of it, but I don't see how it can be connected to PS4 Pro.
Guardian Monkey
Member
What's the gpu equivalent in the ps pro?
2blackcats
Member
Yeah, but if power was the only concern this thread wouldn't exist.
Think this isn't a conversation that's easy to have between the PC and console faithful.
I can definitely understand both points of view..
Yes, it does sound crazy. If you were debating whether to buy a PC or a PS4 Pro, this would be a different conversation. But if you already have a PC, it's a no-brainer. The sheer number of quality exclusives alone should persuade you to hold onto your PC, no matter the specs.
I was just looking earlier today at the must-have count for PS4, and I counted two must-have exclusives (Bloodborne and Uncharted 4). Every other major release is on PC. Not to mention the dozens and dozens of great (not just good) PC-only exclusives released in the past 2-3 years. The only justifiable reason you would have is if you play a lot of multiplayer games and most of your friends are on PS4.
I was just looking earlier today at the must-have count for PS4, and I counted two must-have exclusives (Bloodborne and Uncharted 4). Every other major release is on PC. Not to mention the dozens and dozens of great (not just good) PC-only exclusives released in the past 2-3 years. The only justifiable reason you would have is if you play a lot of multiplayer games and most of your friends are on PS4.
michaelius
Banned
Where are people seeing those great specs killing PS4 Pro ?
GTX970 needs to be heavily overclocked to offer noticeable performance increase over AMD 4,2TF gpu
Big advantage would be G-sync monitor and i5 cpu but those only work for pushing high fps games.
So it mostly comes down to preference of 100+ fps games on g-sync or 30 fps pretty pixels on TV.
If you want my honest opinion, yeah, it does sound crazy. Gaming aside you'll never know when you might be in need of a fast PC to do some work, so getting rid of it alone based on that is already crazy.
And I understand while community and such are important factors I can not guarantee even to the smallest extent that you won't eventually regret your decision. Selling consoles for PCs I can understand, and even then people regret it when a good exclusive hits the console they sold, however selling PCs for consoles however I absolutely do not understand as their utility far exceeds just being a thing you can play games. It's a workplace you'll be glad to have when the occasion that requires you to have something like that pops up.
My suggestion is saving the money to buy a PS4Pro without selling your PC. It might take a bit longer, but definitely feels more reasonable than what you are suggesting in the thread title.
edit:
If you are really keen on selling it tho, I would still rather suggest to only sell the GPU, use the money to fund yourself a PS4Pro and keep the rest of the PC for potential work reasons running on integrated graphics. If you ever feel the need then to hop back into PC gaming you can always get a new GPU, and that isn't exactly the end of the world really.
And I understand while community and such are important factors I can not guarantee even to the smallest extent that you won't eventually regret your decision. Selling consoles for PCs I can understand, and even then people regret it when a good exclusive hits the console they sold, however selling PCs for consoles however I absolutely do not understand as their utility far exceeds just being a thing you can play games. It's a workplace you'll be glad to have when the occasion that requires you to have something like that pops up.
My suggestion is saving the money to buy a PS4Pro without selling your PC. It might take a bit longer, but definitely feels more reasonable than what you are suggesting in the thread title.
edit:
If you are really keen on selling it tho, I would still rather suggest to only sell the GPU, use the money to fund yourself a PS4Pro and keep the rest of the PC for potential work reasons running on integrated graphics. If you ever feel the need then to hop back into PC gaming you can always get a new GPU, and that isn't exactly the end of the world really.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Both my systems, 980ti PC/1070 Laptop, slaughter Pro, but I still buy and play more multiplats (or any games that aren't through an emulator) on my consoles. That's just how it is for some of us.
Edit: I wouldn't sell my PC for a Pro though, that would be silly. I'd save up till I can have both.
Caayn
Member
Edit: OP I understand you. I think that I'm in a sorta similar situation. I've got an i7 4790k+GTX170 in my PC yet I play most of my games on consoles, heck I've just bought TES:SKyrim for consoles. And played through the second half of GoW4 on the XB1s instead of on PC.
I love hardware and tinkering around with it but I just can't bring myself up to do the small adjustments before each game. When I get home and play a game I want to start it and go, and I feel (that even with the degradation of this gen) that consoles still provide a better experience for this. I also prefer playing with a controller over M/K so playing online on PC is a no-go, it's just not fun for me. I'm also planning on moving together with my GF next year, and that'll mean no PC in the living room, whereas she doesn't mind a console. Which is a big factor for me. Although I do miss the 60fps for each game on PC.
I've got a Surface Pro 3 which I use for a lot of tasks so the desktop PC is basically used for gaming only.
It's funny because I thought this would be completely the other way around for me when the mid-gen refreshes were announced. I'm keeping PC at the moment though, for now.
I love hardware and tinkering around with it but I just can't bring myself up to do the small adjustments before each game. When I get home and play a game I want to start it and go, and I feel (that even with the degradation of this gen) that consoles still provide a better experience for this. I also prefer playing with a controller over M/K so playing online on PC is a no-go, it's just not fun for me. I'm also planning on moving together with my GF next year, and that'll mean no PC in the living room, whereas she doesn't mind a console. Which is a big factor for me. Although I do miss the 60fps for each game on PC.
I've got a Surface Pro 3 which I use for a lot of tasks so the desktop PC is basically used for gaming only.
It's funny because I thought this would be completely the other way around for me when the mid-gen refreshes were announced. I'm keeping PC at the moment though, for now.
It's slightly weaker than an AMD RX 470.
Sony magic sauce obviously elevates it to Titan Xp levels of irresponsible performance.
That being said, if you're dead set on not using the PC in the next months for gaming, I'd only sell the GPU since it's the component that heavily iterates at the highest rate (from my experience in the past years anyway). You'll never know when you will need a PC, heck I'm glad I have a secondary decent ITX rig every once in a while.
But perhaps you have another PC or laptop for work.
oh my... that is a really crazy idea to sell your PC for a second PS4 (pro).
Wouldn't you better off selling the PS4 to partially offset the PS4 pro cost?
Acquiescence
Member
If you want to because of the hardware then don't bother, but if you want to because you're enticed by the exclusives, then sure, go for it. There's a fair amount of games coming out on the PS4 in the coming months that aren't on the PC after all, like The Last Guardian, Gravity Rush 2, Ni-Oh, Persona 5, Yakuza 0, Kingdom Hearts II.8 and Horizon. That's a hell of a range of titles right there.
I have decent PC for all multi-plats and backwards compatibility for all previous gen games and now for all Xbox One exclusives.
Xbox One for its 4K blu ray, Halo, Gears of War and RDR. Prob wont buy any more games for it.
Selling my PS4 for a Pro for all the remastered exclusives and all new exclusives at 4K.
Xbox One for its 4K blu ray, Halo, Gears of War and RDR. Prob wont buy any more games for it.
Selling my PS4 for a Pro for all the remastered exclusives and all new exclusives at 4K.
If you dont use it and are going to get an laptot I say go for it, but i would just sell the Gtx970 and buy a new card if you ever get the urge or need to play on PC.
What I dont understand its why you bought a PC with those specs in the first place if you dont use it for gaming, specially that monitor.
What I dont understand its why you bought a PC with those specs in the first place if you dont use it for gaming, specially that monitor.
U can still use lazier option on PC. I was a console gamer my whole life up until about 2 years ago and I'm almost 40 and other then exclusives I use my PC . I have it connected to my 65" tv with a controller on the couch. So u can still choose lazier option with PC. I just keep xb1/ps4 for strictly exclusivesNot crazy, looking at those Titanfall 2 PS4 Pro shots, consoles are now, with the exception of very expensive PC's, at least on par graphically.
Combined with SATA3 on the Pro, load times can be up there too, hopefully.
So now it really comes down to control scheme for first person shooters, controller and couch VS desk and mouse. I'm taking the lazier option
Camp Freddie
Member
So "g-sync is awesome", but you want to buy a console with weaker graphics?
It depends what games you play I suppose(playing mp games with ps4 friends is a good reason), but I'm seeing a lot of outrageous expectations for ps4 pro performance.
SATA3 will do fuck all for load times for example. It is not a major real world boost compared to SATA2, even with an SSD.
It depends what games you play I suppose(playing mp games with ps4 friends is a good reason), but I'm seeing a lot of outrageous expectations for ps4 pro performance.
SATA3 will do fuck all for load times for example. It is not a major real world boost compared to SATA2, even with an SSD.
dragonfart28
Banned
I have an Alienware Alpha and I would never drop that just because there's a new console on the block.
Yes, you're crazy OP.
This is what not being crazy looks like.
Yes, you're crazy OP.
This is what not being crazy looks like.
buenoblue
Member
I've bin thinking the same op. I have a pretty beefy pc. I7 6700k sli 780ti. Trouble is I treat my pc as a console really. I play a lot of FIFA and rocket league and any shooters I get on ps4 cause I like controller multiplayer. I'm about to pick up a 65 inch ks7000 4k tv and think ps4pro and xbox one s would suit me better. Also the console games I play on pc feel like shoddy third party ports most the time.
Cheeseman Battitude
Member
Alpha is a cracking machine.
martino
Member
Not crazy, looking at those Titanfall 2 PS4 Pro shots, consoles are now, with the exception of very expensive PC's, at least on par graphically.
Combined with SATA3 on the Pro, load times can be up there too, hopefully.
So now it really comes down to control scheme for first person shooters, controller and couch VS desk and mouse. I'm taking the lazier option
good example of false and restrictive propaganda post...
did it work on some people ? (who are not already core fan)
Messofanego
Banned
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Well i get what you mean OP. I was going to get a top end pc but instead im getting a pro and keeping my alpha for the rare pc exclusive i want to play. I just really prefer the simplicity these days. I really apreciate it more than the performance boost a top end pc can offer. Been there done that, and when i had tons of free time it was great. These days where my time is limited i just dont care anymore. As long as i can play the games i like as easily as possible im happy.
I also have a gaming laptop i never use and a chromebook i use all the time for my computing needs. My alpha is currently used to play gears 4 now and then and thats it. Not even sure there is a game coming out i am interested in that isn't available on ps4 so im really happy with my decision.
I also have a gaming laptop i never use and a chromebook i use all the time for my computing needs. My alpha is currently used to play gears 4 now and then and thats it. Not even sure there is a game coming out i am interested in that isn't available on ps4 so im really happy with my decision.
The avatar surely doesn't help.
If I ever got my arse around to connecting my PC in one room to the main TV in another I might agree. That location difference has me still buying plenty of games on console when my PC is way more capable (34" 3440x1440 monitor, 6700k, gtx1080)
Hellgardia
Member
I would keep the PC but i am mostly a PC gamer. If you don't actually need that money, keep the PC. Later down the line you May want to play on it again
Doctor_Mosh
Member
go for it OP, if you just have your pc standing around and use it rarely the resale value will just go down.
follow where your friends are, i absolutely don't think it's crazy.
follow where your friends are, i absolutely don't think it's crazy.
Englebert3rd
Unconfirmed Member
No, please don't. Your specs are pretty good. Just wait until the Christmas sales and I'm sure you'll find a good game.
Good opportunity for piecing it out. The 970 and g-sync monitor would be good options. Personally I'd then either keep the core PC for general use and buy a cheap monitor, or sell it on as a complete unit minus the GPU and monitor
Yup
PC gaming has never been better. This year has been incredible for PC games. I can't tell you how many games I've bought this year which were all fantastic.
PS4? I bought Uncharted 4..that's it.
GinoFelino
Member
This sounded like Trump in my head when I read it.
Anyway: stuff you don't really need is never good, OP. Sell whatever you can easily miss.
- Status