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[dramatis]

Who said anything about it not being exceptional? It was history making...I never made the argument that Hillary Clinton's victory wasn't groundbreaking in American history.

Your words.

Personally I am going to vote but the two major presidential candidates in this cycle both leave much to be desired. Neither are exceptional and both have a lot of baggage. At this point I honestly don't care who wins. I will be writing in a candidate because voting for the lessor of the two evils still means you're voting for someone evil. I think for this specific cycle that is why there has been so much apathy, they are both dirty candidates that the majority of people don't like.

Regardless of your opinion, it goes without saying that Hillary Clinton is exceptional for making it all the way here.

 

[Socivol]

Your words.

I meant in their platform. Hillary Clinton's platform isn't "I'm running as a woman vote for me!" They are both running on the same tired shit that never gets resolves (ex. Fix taxes) or something completely ridiculous (ex. Mexico will build a wall)

 

[outunderthestars]

I meant in their platform. Hillary Clinton's platform isn't "I'm running as a woman vote for me!" They are both running on the same tired shit that never gets resolves (ex. Fix taxes) or something completely ridiculous (ex. Mexico will build a wall)

They both actually have policy statements, but the media never covers those things because the general public just wants to watch the election like a sporting event.

 

[Barzul]

Why are you guys bothering Sovicol. He/She can write in whoever he wants, he/she still bears responsibility in whatever outcome presents itself. Your writing in doesn't absolve you from whatever outcome we see Tuesday night.

 

[dramatis]

I meant in their platform. Hillary Clinton's platform isn't "I'm running as a woman vote for me!" They are both running on the same tired shit that never gets resolves (ex. Fix taxes) or something completely ridiculous (ex. Mexico will build a wall)

I don't think you're very informed about their platforms, or about politics, which is probably why you're writing in a candidate.

If, for some reason, you think a platform has to be "exceptional" instead of "moving towards a direction I want" in a country of 300 million people, then you're not assessing reality.

Go have a read (or a watch, in Trump's case):
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues

 

[BigDug13]

To be honest, I blame the ballot initiative system for this to a degree. Like how in the hell do we need 2 plastic bag initiatives? There are too many ballot measures for the average voter to research. Better to vote no for both than to make an uninformed yes choice for some voters.

I supported 62, but I'd rather see both fail than 66 pass. So, in a way, this is the second best result for anti-death penalty opponents.

You don't have to vote on it though right? Better to leave it blank than to vote blanket no's on shit you don't know about.

 

[Armaros]

I meant in their platform. Hillary Clinton's platform isn't "I'm running as a woman vote for me!" They are both running on the same tired shit that never gets resolves (ex. Fix taxes) or something completely ridiculous (ex. Mexico will build a wall)

Oh look You just admitted to not looking at anything and yet pulling the same old 'both sidessss'

Also with a nice bit of false equivalence of taxes = Trump's wall.

 

[chubigans]

marcomentum

 

[commedieu]

Remember when gaf said it would be a landslide, and trump would be destroyed in the ge?

It's still unbelievable we are here. Half of our nation is bigoted morons. Hopefully he doesn't win.

 

[The Technomancer]

Oh hey we have an election thread, this should be fu-

 

[Miletius]

You don't have to vote on it though right? Better to leave it blank than to vote blanket no's on shit you don't know about.

You can, of course, but voters often feel like they need to have an opinion on both measures since they have an opinion on one. Here is a quote from an LA times article on the measure.

Yet even as the two death penalty propositions “are trying to achieve competing aims, opponents of one don’t necessarily support the other, mostly due to confusion about 66,” said pollster Ben Winston of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research.

Voters who supported repealing the death penalty and opposed the competing measure were 21% of the electorate, a mostly Democratic group which also supported Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

Voters who opposed repealing the death penalty and favored the measure intended to speed up the process formed 18% of the electorate, a group that leaned Republican and toward Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Another 15% of voters, mostly younger Democrats and Clinton supporters, said they would give their “Yes” vote to both propositions, while 21% of the electorate said they would oppose both measures.

The survey was conducted for USC Dornsife and the Los Angeles Times by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research and American Viewpoint.

The 2nd to last paragraph demonstrates that at least 15 percent of the electorate is confused about the measure, and 21 percent prefer the status quo (ugh). Rest of the story is at the link: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...-62-66-death-penalty-poll-20161103-story.html

 

[Meowster]

Really praying my man Kander will pull through.

Missourians - remember to go out and vote!

 

[BBboy20]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues

JESUS, those thumbnails!

Oh hey we have an election thread, this should be fu-

There is no escape, no turning back, no ignorance. This is it. This is what will truly define the course of human history. There is no other choice but to fight.

 

[Auctopus]

Feels like the BBC are predicting a Trump victory. So much momentum lost by Hillary in the last week. Well, that's how it feels on this side of the Atlantic.

 

[Xe4]

Feels like the BBC are predicting a Trump victory. So much momentum lost by Hillary in the last week. Well, that's how it feels on this side of the Atlantic.

The media loves a horse race narrative. Nothing gets more people to tune in on Tuesday. Ignore them, and focus on the math, which highly suggests a Clinton win.

 

[jack_package_200]

Thanks for the help Bernie

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/794941635931099136

 

[Box of Kittens]

Feels like the BBC are predicting a Trump victory. So much momentum lost by Hillary in the last week. Well, that's how it feels on this side of the Atlantic.

Not being in the UK, I can't speak to what the BBC is saying. But the evidence points to Clinton being the favorite. If anything the early vote numbers suggest she's outperforming the public polls, which still show her safely above 270 electoral votes even as they show a tighter race.

 

[akileese]

Thanks for the help Bernie

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/794941635931099136

I mean he's not wrong. Most of them are voting Trump because they vote Republican. I know plenty of people like that. I don't agree with them in the slightest but they can vote for whoever they please.

 

[jack_package_200]

I mean he's not wrong. Most of them are voting Trump because they vote Republican. I know plenty of people like that. I don't agree with them in the slightest but they can vote for whoever they please.

If you support a candidate that is racist and is endorsed by racists then guess what, you are just as racist as them. It's guilt by association and we should all make them own their stupid choices. They support a candidate that gleefully loves to sexually assault women.

They do not deserve an out.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

They both actually have policy statements, but the media never covers those things because the general public just wants to watch the election like a sporting event.

Well one has policy statements, the other says what makes him feel important.

 

[Box of Kittens]

Thanks for the help Bernie

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/794941635931099136

I mean, this is basically the same thing that Hillary said about his supporters. I don't really think it's accurate if you look at where Trump's support comes from, but I don't think it hurts Clinton either.

 

[Team Alucard]

Control of the Senate is down to a coin flip on 538 and the upshot.

Looks like its all going to come down to NH. If Ayotte survives I hope McConnell blocks Hillary's noms.

 

[jack_package_200]

Control of the Senate is down to a coin flip on 538 and and the upshot.

Looks like its all going to come down to NH. If Ayotte survives I hope McConnell blocks Hillary's noms.

So progressive

 

[gutter_trash]

Control of the Senate is down to a coin flip on 538 and and the upshot.

Looks like its all going to come down to NH. If Ayotte survives I hope McConnell blocks Hillary's noms.

why are you a former Bernie supporter now a Republican?

 

[Kusagari]

Control of the Senate is down to a coin flip on 538 and the upshot.

Looks like its all going to come down to NH. If Ayotte survives I hope McConnell blocks Hillary's noms.

Nice to see Bernie supporters want to risk a Supreme Court that will make sure nothing he fought for will happen in our generation.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Control of the Senate is down to a coin flip on 538 and the upshot.

Looks like its all going to come down to NH. If Ayotte survives I hope McConnell blocks Hillary's noms.

I'm glad that you are finally just coming out and saying that you don't want this country to have a functional government.

 

[Dr. Worm]

I mean, this is basically the same thing that Hillary said about his supporters. I don't really think it's accurate if you look at where Trump's support comes from, but I don't think it hurts Clinton either.

If Democrats ever want the House back, it's necessary to say, even if it may not be true.

 

[jack_package_200]

Nice to see Bernie supporters want to risk a Supreme Court that will make sure nothing he fought for will happen in our generation.

At this point Spite and "Moral Superiority" are more important than the rights of others and achieving progressive ideals.

 

[hawk2025]

Why do you all keep try to apply logic to the person that exhibits none?

 

[Box of Kittens]

Certain people like to derail discussion by making the thread about themselves instead of the actual topic. It's best not to give them what they want.

 

[Mass Effect]

Remember when gaf said it would be a landslide, and trump would be destroyed in the ge?

It's still unbelievable we are here. Half of our nation is bigoted morons. Hopefully he doesn't win.

Damn commedieu, you've been chicken little-ing for months now.

Get a hold of yourself man

Spoiler

I understand your worry, but chill

 

[weremichael]

I mean he's not wrong. Most of them are voting Trump because they vote Republican. I know plenty of people like that. I don't agree with them in the slightest but they can vote for whoever they please.

I agree with you. It's much easier for a person to align to a party and down vote the entire ticket. My wife and I finished our research for our entire ballot in about an hour. Voting truly is a laborious duty. I don't enjoy it for the most part, but I never miss an opportunity to participate. It only makes it worse to live in a state where my voice isn't represented. I'm hoping the local election goes my way. There are some dangerous minds trying to push my city back to the stone age.

 

[Haunted]

Alright USA, time to save some face and not embarrass yourself any further.

Landslide Hillary win in the electoral college and switch to a Democratic Senate please.

 

[ZSaberLink]

At this point Spite and "Moral Superiority" are more important than the rights of others and achieving anything useful.

FTFY


I'm still kind of saddened at how close this election is, and am really dreading the chance that polling is a bit off and that Trump wins the presidency after all. Sigh....

 

[Lois_Lane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJTi33SfhRs
This made me think of you guys.

 

[HStallion]

I meant in their platform. Hillary Clinton's platform isn't "I'm running as a woman vote for me!" They are both running on the same tired shit that never gets resolves (ex. Fix taxes) or something completely ridiculous (ex. Mexico will build a wall)

Because you can't ever fix certain problems forever with a solution that you come up with today. Saying you have a solution to problems today might be a problem itself in 20 or 30 or 40 years. Its very simplistic looking at things asking for a universal end all and be all solution.

 

[RPGCrazied]

why are you a former Bernie supporter now a Republican?

Trolling. At this point it really can't be anything else.

 

[Nakazato]

Anyone know how 2 in Florida is doing ?

 

[commedieu]

Damn commedieu, you've been chicken little-ing for months now.

Get a hold of yourself man

Spoiler

I understand your worry, but chill

Just saying. We've come a long way from no chance in hell to.. well. There it is.

I don't want to have to hide in an attic. I saw that movie. AND my uncles are all fucking loud and clumsy.

 

[elvisaintdead]

Don't Nader this election, America. Be smart about this.

 

[Volimar]

I don't want to have to hide in an attic. I saw that movie. AND my uncles are all fucking loud and clumsy.

I gotta get my head out of the gutter cuz my mind did not go to Anne Frank when reading that line.

 

[ghst]

vegas odds are roughly 3:1 for trump. sounds about right.

saving throw of 3 on a d6.

 

[commedieu]

I gotta get my head out of the gutter cuz my mind did not go to Anne Frank when reading that line.

Fucking roflmao.

Animal.

 

[sans_pants]

This is the biggest Trump supporter on my FB. He posts nothing else, and parrots any and all conspiracy articles or conservative twitter feeds. When should we start worrying about these people?

http://imgur.com/a/qTnnp

 

[Anarky]

Can Alucard take the same bet diablos took so we can kill two birds with one stone?

 

[roytheone]

Control of the Senate is down to a coin flip on 538 and the upshot.

Looks like its all going to come down to NH. If Ayotte survives I hope McConnell blocks Hillary's noms.

I really think people like this should go into LGBT gaf and take a look at the great people there who they are actively trying to fuck over with these kind of views.

 

[S-Wind]

Just 3 more days to go!

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

I mean he's not wrong. Most of them are voting Trump because they vote Republican. I know plenty of people like that. I don't agree with them in the slightest but they can vote for whoever they please.

My ass. If Trump said climate change is real, there's a wage gap and institutional racism exists, he wouldn't have made it past the primary.

It's not just that he's a republican. It's that he's a racist, sexist, anti-intellectual asshole Republican.

 

[samn]

Thanks for the help Bernie

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/794941635931099136

Yeah, best way to get people to vote Hillary is to call them fundamentally bad people for thinking about voting Trump.

 

[ATF487]

Feels like the BBC are predicting a Trump victory. So much momentum lost by Hillary in the last week. Well, that's how it feels on this side of the Atlantic.

Maybe they are drawing too many parallels to the Brexit vote.

I am legitimately starting to worry here, never thought it would be this close, and I have always wondered how many people quietly support Trump without volunteering that information to pollsters, but Trump still has a lot of ground to gain before he can win.